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Hi Bill.

You don't have to give up bread, just find one that is very low carb like 8

or 9 carbs per sliceand eat 1 slice with each meal. For

example, here is from another list I am on...

>I was shopping at WalMart Super Center today. I eat bread a few times a

>week. I often buy the Pepperidge Farm thin-sliced bread, but somehow this

>one -- Brownberry bread -- just jumped out at me. As usual, I immediately

checked the nutrition

>list and was quite pleased to see 2 slices = 19 carbs. I still haven't

>been downstairs to check the fiber on it.

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> ,

>

> I do know what you mean about losing the craving for certain things. I

used

> to crave bread and as I grew up was always told that bread was good to eat

> if you were craving something quick to eat. Well, along comes carb

counting

> showing bread is a big no-no. Where I used to fix myself a burger with a

> couple of slices of bread and then put cheese on it, now I'm OK with just

> fixing the burger by itself and having veggies along with it, and that

suits

> me just fine. I don't even miss the bread.

>

> And if I have to eat on the road, when I order that burger I can order it

> without the cheese and without all the goopy sauce on it, and if it

happens

> to come on a plate at least I can take off the bread and eat the rest of

it

> leaving the bread behind.

>

> For years I've rationed French fries when they come with a meal. I pick a

> number from 1 to 10 in my head and that's the number of fries I will allow

> myself. I throw out the rest. So if the number I chose was 3, I find 3

small

> fries and that's what I eat. I know I get strange looks from people who

ask

> " why are you throwing out all those fries? " I just answer " well, I'd

rather

> throw them out than wear them. "

>

> I know, it ain't a perfect solution, but it's good discipline anyway.

>

> Bread has always been something I counted on and I love a good slice of

> whole wheat, but I found I definitely CAN do without it. And I will do

that

> with other things pretty soon, too.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

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Good for you, Bill!I too control the amount of bread, limiting it to about 1

slice a day-usually with my egg beaters in the morning. Pasta is the hard

thing to limit. We have a favorite Italian place we like to go to and the

guy makes wonderful angle hair pasta with his own marinara sauce-really hard

to limit that!

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,

I do know what you mean about losing the craving for certain things. I used

to crave bread and as I grew up was always told that bread was good to eat

if you were craving something quick to eat. Well, along comes carb counting

showing bread is a big no-no. Where I used to fix myself a burger with a

couple of slices of bread and then put cheese on it, now I'm OK with just

fixing the burger by itself and having veggies along with it, and that suits

me just fine. I don't even miss the bread.

And if I have to eat on the road, when I order that burger I can order it

without the cheese and without all the goopy sauce on it, and if it happens

to come on a plate at least I can take off the bread and eat the rest of it

leaving the bread behind.

For years I've rationed French fries when they come with a meal. I pick a

number from 1 to 10 in my head and that's the number of fries I will allow

myself. I throw out the rest. So if the number I chose was 3, I find 3 small

fries and that's what I eat. I know I get strange looks from people who ask

" why are you throwing out all those fries? " I just answer " well, I'd rather

throw them out than wear them. "

I know, it ain't a perfect solution, but it's good discipline anyway.

Bread has always been something I counted on and I love a good slice of

whole wheat, but I found I definitely CAN do without it. And I will do that

with other things pretty soon, too.

Bill

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Yup, I meant 60-80 gm per day, not per meal. Oooh if it were per meal we'd

be way off base here.

For some reason I find it easier to count carbs than calories. But as I look

at carbs I also consider the cholesterol but more importantly for me I

consider the sodium. It doesn't do much good for me to say " oh here's this

food that has 1 carb but has 1,000 mg of sodium. " A lot of frozen dinners

have really high sodium and I know to just avoid those, period. I'm even

surprised to find diverse amounts of sodium in things like hot dogs, too. I

love a good hot dog but I stay with Hebrew National which has the least

sodium of any of the hot dogs. They're lower in fat, lower in sodium and

they have a very good taste. On the other hand, Ballparks are probably the

worst salt offenders!

Like I said in one of my other posts, I might treat myself to something like

those darn Peeps, but then I know full well I have to pay for it with more

exercise to keep my sugar in range. So I always have to ask myself " is it

worth it? " If I can say " yes " then I treat myself.

Bill

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very good point... keeping in mind other factors such as salt, cholesterol,

etc. when low carbing... best way to tell what effects you is your 2 or 3

month lab work showing a1c/lipid panel. I've found that salt doesn't effect

my blood pressure much but I have to watch fat intake since it can effect my

LDL cholesterol etc.

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> ,

>

> Yup, I meant 60-80 gm per day, not per meal. Oooh if it were per meal we'd

> be way off base here.

>

> For some reason I find it easier to count carbs than calories. But as I

look

> at carbs I also consider the cholesterol but more importantly for me I

> consider the sodium. It doesn't do much good for me to say " oh here's this

> food that has 1 carb but has 1,000 mg of sodium. " A lot of frozen dinners

> have really high sodium and I know to just avoid those, period. I'm even

> surprised to find diverse amounts of sodium in things like hot dogs, too.

I

> love a good hot dog but I stay with Hebrew National which has the least

> sodium of any of the hot dogs. They're lower in fat, lower in sodium and

> they have a very good taste. On the other hand, Ballparks are probably the

> worst salt offenders!

>

> Like I said in one of my other posts, I might treat myself to something

like

> those darn Peeps, but then I know full well I have to pay for it with more

> exercise to keep my sugar in range. So I always have to ask myself " is it

> worth it? " If I can say " yes " then I treat myself.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

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typically in the spice area...

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>

> Where would you find the Salad Supreme? It's not a dressing, not a spice,

so

> what section would I find that in? I'll give it a try.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

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about finger pricking/testing...

There is a

finger routine I use that really keeps my fingers comfortable and they don't

get sore. Here is how I do it:

Monday through Thursday left hand

* monday left pointer finger

* Tuesday left middle finger

* wednesday left ring finger

* thursday left pinky finger

Friday through Sunday right hand

* friday right middle finger

* saturday right ring finger

* sunday right pinky finger

I use my thumbs on both hands and my right pointer finger as backup fingers.

Meaning, if I can't get blood from one of the days fingers, I use my thumbs

or my right pointer finger. The pricking pattern is simple, it lets you get

8 pricks on each finger. This pattern applies to all fingers I just

mentioned. It goes like this... you prick three times down the left side of

the finger spacing them out, three times down the right side of the finger

spacing them out, and twice across the upper part of the finger (just below

the tip). By the time you get back to monday, your left fingers are healed

up and your good to go. By the time you finish your left hand for the first

4 days of the week, your right hand is healed up and ready to go.

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>

> I missed your post on the fingerstick pattern, can you send that to me?

>

> Bill

>

>

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justin, i have one for you on eggs. if u have a george foreman toaster. take

two slices of bread and butter on the outsides like u would for a grilled

cheese sandwich. take one slice and use a glass to make a hole in the middle

of the bread for the top slice only. put the slice with the hole in in on

top of the solid one than crack an egg and put it in the hole then u can put

the hole u cut and put it on the grill at one side. so you still have two

slices of bread and one egg for lunch. put the top of the grill down and it

cooks top and bottom at the same time for five minutes. i enjoy this one.

karen

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sounds good and probably about 32 carbs...

regards,

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> justin, i have one for you on eggs. if u have a george foreman toaster.

take

> two slices of bread and butter on the outsides like u would for a grilled

> cheese sandwich. take one slice and use a glass to make a hole in the

middle

> of the bread for the top slice only. put the slice with the hole in in on

> top of the solid one than crack an egg and put it in the hole then u can

put

> the hole u cut and put it on the grill at one side. so you still have two

> slices of bread and one egg for lunch. put the top of the grill down and

it

> cooks top and bottom at the same time for five minutes. i enjoy this one.

> karen

>

>

>

>

>

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