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Bernadette, What great pix. Now if we could only identify the people for

those of us who didn't make it. Maybe if you guys would tell us, like 3rd

pix top row, red hair. Something like that. I am curious who all you brave

souls are.

Sharon

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<< MTX,Steroid jabs, voltorol

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Hi ,

I know a most of us sympathize on the subject of " better living through

chemistry " We all hate taking so many meds. Years ago, I hated having to take

synthroid every day; then estrogen after having a hysterectomy; then nsaids

and mtx and folic acid.... then antihypertenves because the BP went way up

after the MTX and nsaids... then lipid lowering meds when dietary

modifications did not help and after 2 of my sisters had cardiac bypass

surgery in their early 50's....After a lot of problems accepting that my body

functions because of the availability of pharmaceuticals, I stopped thinking

of myself as a toxic waste dump. I do stay attentive to watching for any

untoward effects, monitor the BP, have my labs done on time etc..... I am not

ready to relinquish any more of the quality of my life right now than I have

had to. I have found that worry and anxiety are big triggers, so I really try

not worry about by focusing on gratitude that I have some recourse with all

of this. This is not to say that this came about over night, or that it is

easy, and some days are harder than others to deal with handfuls of pills.

Good luck on your PA journey!

in Wisconsin

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i agree with cindy, nathan also has lots of gas, and even his regualr

classmates or peers are not allowed to laugh or encourage silly disruptive

behavior. shawna.

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> Wow,

> I don't agree with that about the teacher using the other students to

ridecule him for having gas.

> My student also has gas. and it could appear sometimes that he uses it.

But in all reality I do try to hang onto reality a bit ( sarcasm aimed at

the teachers ) and remember that things like that aren't usually able to be

created. Now I know some people can create a burp by swollowing air. but

never heard of the same being for gas.

>

> what she should be doing is when that happens to teach him to say sorry or

excuse me. not laughing at him. sounds like the teacher may not realize

what she is doing is making things worse. If you laugh or ridecule, it's

only going to make it appear to the student that what he is doing is

acceptable. Afterall, he is getting attention for it.

>

> cindy

>

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i agree with cindy, nathan also has lots of gas, and even his regualr

classmates or peers are not allowed to laugh or encourage silly disruptive

behavior. shawna.

Re: Digest Number 889

> Wow,

> I don't agree with that about the teacher using the other students to

ridecule him for having gas.

> My student also has gas. and it could appear sometimes that he uses it.

But in all reality I do try to hang onto reality a bit ( sarcasm aimed at

the teachers ) and remember that things like that aren't usually able to be

created. Now I know some people can create a burp by swollowing air. but

never heard of the same being for gas.

>

> what she should be doing is when that happens to teach him to say sorry or

excuse me. not laughing at him. sounds like the teacher may not realize

what she is doing is making things worse. If you laugh or ridecule, it's

only going to make it appear to the student that what he is doing is

acceptable. Afterall, he is getting attention for it.

>

> cindy

>

>

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I will be on vacation and return to the office on 6/18/01. If you need

assistance please contact A. rgregory@.... or Melodie

Austin, maustin@... Thank you. Peggy

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At 09:13 AM 12/2/01 +0000, you wrote:

>Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:06:22 -0600

> From: " Maskell " <kmaskell@...>

>Subject: RE: Newbie Q/secretor-nonS/CFS

I went cold turkey too. Years of high fibre starch/veggie diet ending on

31 Oct and meat eating BTD began on 1 Nov, 1999, mostly HB. I did not

feel detox symptoms at all, but in week 4, I began to feel fabulous, high

energy, bouncing around. I think the advice to go slow is probably good

for most, but I can't do that, I'm an all or nothing person. I also think

my body said to itself, 'real food at last, grab it in case she changes her

mind'.

> I went cold turkey on avoids, one day, HB only and didn't

>have much of a problem with detox. Just trying to understand this

>advice.

Meri -

Launceston, Tasmania, Australia,

Meril.Broomhall@...

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Well Frances I liked your use of the word integrated What about Integrated

pathway for public health - IPP

>From:

>Reply-

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>Subject: Digest Number 889

>Date: 25 Mar 2003 12:08:19 -0000

>

>

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Well Frances I liked your use of the word integrated What about Integrated

pathway for public health - IPP

>From:

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Digest Number 889

>Date: 25 Mar 2003 12:08:19 -0000

>

>

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Hi Frances,

Regarding Direct Entry, I think the NMC stance that only groups with nurse

in their title will, to some degree, obviate the need to demonstrate that

there is some element of nursing in direct entry health visiting.

Acknowledging that their exact position changes by the hour, the most recent

NMC indication is that the third part of the register will be devoted to

Specialist Community Public Health Nurses and will incorporate health

visitors as well as others, possibly school nurses and occupational health

nurses. As a senior lecturer in Plymouth, I am constantly approached by

nursery nurses and others with relevant experience or education who are

appalled at the hurdles they must clear to enter the health visiting

profession. Locally, it would take about 18 months from application to

beginning on a pre-reg programme. After 3 years on a diploma in nursing,

trusts then advertise for prospective HV students with 2 years post reg

experience. Current CHCN programmes have many generic modules, which means

that a candidate endures about 7.5 years waiting and training to reach the

two core modules devoted specifically to health visiting practice! Can there

be any more persuasive case for the lucid approach to preparation that

direct entry to health visiting/specialist community public health nursing

would provide? Clearly, those of us who would be developing curricula for

these programmes are, by virtue of our own backgrounds, well placed to

determine the amount of nursing content relevant to the role. Why are the

powers that be so afraid of allowing us to rationalise and modernise the

porfession?

Regards

Gerri Clay

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>Subject: Digest Number 889

>Date: 25 Mar 2003 12:08:19 -0000

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In a message dated 12/4/03 2:51:45 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> All I can say is it's big business and makes more money than many

> countries.

>

Ain't THAT the truth????? Look at GSK! They have more assets than most

third world countries!!! That was a very cogent argument you presented, Jim,

about life's conditions and the advent of psychiatric drugs. If the drug

companies had their way, they would medicate away ALL human emotion so that we

are

nothing but a bunch of brain-dead zombies baaah-ing all the way to the corral.

<A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A>

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In a message dated 12/4/03 2:51:45 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> All I can say is it's big business and makes more money than many

> countries.

>

Ain't THAT the truth????? Look at GSK! They have more assets than most

third world countries!!! That was a very cogent argument you presented, Jim,

about life's conditions and the advent of psychiatric drugs. If the drug

companies had their way, they would medicate away ALL human emotion so that we

are

nothing but a bunch of brain-dead zombies baaah-ing all the way to the corral.

<A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A>

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

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In a message dated 12/4/03 2:51:45 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> All I can say is it's big business and makes more money than many

> countries.

>

Ain't THAT the truth????? Look at GSK! They have more assets than most

third world countries!!! That was a very cogent argument you presented, Jim,

about life's conditions and the advent of psychiatric drugs. If the drug

companies had their way, they would medicate away ALL human emotion so that we

are

nothing but a bunch of brain-dead zombies baaah-ing all the way to the corral.

<A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A>

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

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In a message dated 12/4/03 2:51:45 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> All I can say is it's big business and makes more money than many

> countries.

>

Ain't THAT the truth????? Look at GSK! They have more assets than most

third world countries!!! That was a very cogent argument you presented, Jim,

about life's conditions and the advent of psychiatric drugs. If the drug

companies had their way, they would medicate away ALL human emotion so that we

are

nothing but a bunch of brain-dead zombies baaah-ing all the way to the corral.

<A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A>

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

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SSRI medications writes:

> " I'm taking Lexapro and you can't have alcohol with it, and I did. I

> forgot.

> That's just it in a nutshell really, " the country music star told the East

> Valley Tribune on Tuesday, the day after his arrest in Phoenix.

>

Damn! Do I lose my bet? I said he was on an SSRI, probably Paxil, but now I

learn it's Lexapro. Can I still collect my quarter????? My God, have we

ever been wrong about predicting that these perps were on legal dope? Nope!!

We're always right on the money. Now if WE can say with some degree of

accuracy what fuels these kinds of incidents, what's wrong with the rest of the

world???

<A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A>

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

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In a message dated 12/4/03 2:51:45 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> " I'm taking Lexapro and you can't have alcohol with it, and I did. I

> forgot.

> That's just it in a nutshell really, " the country music star told the East

> Valley Tribune on Tuesday, the day after his arrest in Phoenix.

>

Damn! Do I lose my bet? I said he was on an SSRI, probably Paxil, but now I

learn it's Lexapro. Can I still collect my quarter????? My God, have we

ever been wrong about predicting that these perps were on legal dope? Nope!!

We're always right on the money. Now if WE can say with some degree of

accuracy what fuels these kinds of incidents, what's wrong with the rest of the

world???

<A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A>

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

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In a message dated 12/4/03 2:51:45 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> " I'm taking Lexapro and you can't have alcohol with it, and I did. I

> forgot.

> That's just it in a nutshell really, " the country music star told the East

> Valley Tribune on Tuesday, the day after his arrest in Phoenix.

>

Damn! Do I lose my bet? I said he was on an SSRI, probably Paxil, but now I

learn it's Lexapro. Can I still collect my quarter????? My God, have we

ever been wrong about predicting that these perps were on legal dope? Nope!!

We're always right on the money. Now if WE can say with some degree of

accuracy what fuels these kinds of incidents, what's wrong with the rest of the

world???

<A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A>

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

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In a message dated 12/4/03 2:51:45 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> " I'm taking Lexapro and you can't have alcohol with it, and I did. I

> forgot.

> That's just it in a nutshell really, " the country music star told the East

> Valley Tribune on Tuesday, the day after his arrest in Phoenix.

>

Damn! Do I lose my bet? I said he was on an SSRI, probably Paxil, but now I

learn it's Lexapro. Can I still collect my quarter????? My God, have we

ever been wrong about predicting that these perps were on legal dope? Nope!!

We're always right on the money. Now if WE can say with some degree of

accuracy what fuels these kinds of incidents, what's wrong with the rest of the

world???

<A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A>

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

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> Peace to all

>

> Remember the dead

>

Morsie: The message from which those two line came actually made me cry!

Sometimes you say things in such a way that it simply cannot be ignored and

cuts right through the b.s. to the truth!! You are one of my heroes!!!!! Hugs

to you.

<A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A>

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

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In a message dated 12/4/03 2:51:45 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> Peace to all

>

> Remember the dead

>

Morsie: The message from which those two line came actually made me cry!

Sometimes you say things in such a way that it simply cannot be ignored and

cuts right through the b.s. to the truth!! You are one of my heroes!!!!! Hugs

to you.

<A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A>

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

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In a message dated 12/4/03 2:51:45 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> Peace to all

>

> Remember the dead

>

Morsie: The message from which those two line came actually made me cry!

Sometimes you say things in such a way that it simply cannot be ignored and

cuts right through the b.s. to the truth!! You are one of my heroes!!!!! Hugs

to you.

<A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A>

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

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In a message dated 12/4/03 2:51:45 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> Peace to all

>

> Remember the dead

>

Morsie: The message from which those two line came actually made me cry!

Sometimes you say things in such a way that it simply cannot be ignored and

cuts right through the b.s. to the truth!! You are one of my heroes!!!!! Hugs

to you.

<A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A>

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

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> If the drug

> companies had their way, they would medicate away ALL human emotion so

> that we are

> nothing but a bunch of brain-dead zombies baaah-ing all the way to the

> corral.

This is exactly the reason that finally motivated me to start weaning

myself off Paxil. I no longer responded emotionally to anything. God, it

was awful. Of course, now, I cry at the drop of a hat. However, that is

much better than losing myself. Have gone from 40 mg to 10 mg and can

even skip days without the electrical zaps. I feel like I am being

reborn. What a wonderful Christmas gift! I also want to say that the

information and kindness of the people on this list has helped

immeasurably, as well. Thank you.

Ellen

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> If the drug

> companies had their way, they would medicate away ALL human emotion so

> that we are

> nothing but a bunch of brain-dead zombies baaah-ing all the way to the

> corral.

This is exactly the reason that finally motivated me to start weaning

myself off Paxil. I no longer responded emotionally to anything. God, it

was awful. Of course, now, I cry at the drop of a hat. However, that is

much better than losing myself. Have gone from 40 mg to 10 mg and can

even skip days without the electrical zaps. I feel like I am being

reborn. What a wonderful Christmas gift! I also want to say that the

information and kindness of the people on this list has helped

immeasurably, as well. Thank you.

Ellen

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>From: Ellen M Lemire <lnsecrec@...>

>Reply-SSRI medications

>SSRI medications

>Subject: Re: Digest Number 889

>Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:59:27 -0500

>

Ellen, what you described, about being reborn, really struck a chord with

me. There is no question that coming out of that drug-induced haze enabled

me to gain more clarity than I've ever had in my life. You are at the

beginning of a wonderful process that will restore your faith in yourself

and the world around you. Its like Rumpelstilskin waking up after a hundred

years. And yes, you may cry at a Hallmark commercial, but so what, at least

you can feel!

Peace,

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