Re: How long for miralax to leave body, if ever. [1 Attachment]

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Facial grimacing, eye blinking, and a vocal hum.Sent from my iPhone

see attachedTo: "miralax " <miralax >Sent: Tue, July 26, 2011 7:22:13 AMSubject: Re: How long for miralax to leave body, if ever.

what kind of tics did he have? mine is having large motor tics. he moves side to side, sucks in stomach, loud sniffing,

To: "miralax " <miralax >Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:04 PMSubject: Re: How long for miralax to leave body, if ever.

My son had tics when he was 5. We stopped the miralax and the tics would come and go for about the next 3-4 months. He is 7 now and the tics have not come back.

Good luck. It was such a stressful time.Sent from my iPhone

thanks, where is the files section

To: miralax Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 11:27 AMSubject: Re: How long for miralax to leave body, if ever.

Lynn, please check out the files section of urinary excretion of PEG. ALL doesn't come back out of the body. 4-15% is not recovered and this was referenced by the medical director of Braintree Labs, the original maker of Miralax

To: miralax Sent: Sun, July 24, 2011 9:19:51 AMSubject: Re: How long for miralax to leave body, if ever.

Lynn, the article is below, it says her urine did not report to normal until 30 hrs. We have seen calcium oxalate crystals and problems with urine, kidney, etc. up to a decade later.

To: "miralax " <miralax >Sent: Sun, July 24, 2011 8:42:37 AMSubject: How long for miralax to leave body, if ever.

Has anyone tried an all natural clean out?? Or is passing it through the urine the only way it leaves the body? We r on day 5 of my son no longer taking miralax. He has been going to the bathroom fine since we stopped, however, still has the symptoms. I guess it takes 15 days as someone has posted.

To: "miralax " <miralax >Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 7:53 PMSubject: Fw: Fw: Renal Failure / PEG

I can't remember where I found this very important piece of information but years ago many said they were using PEG in spinal cord injury patients but I assumed it was using it like stem cell research or along the lines of mending the spinal cord. If anyone has time, help me try to find where this article came from and maybe look up more info on PEG with spinal cord patients to see what else we can find. below is the article.............gives merit to the questions we've had all along. Can anyone figure out where it was published? I'd like to find these researchers.

----- Forwarded Message ----To: "miralax " <miralax >Sent: Sat, July 23, 2011 6:46:09 PMSubject: Fw: Renal Failure / PEG

----- Forwarded Message ----To: miralax Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 7:00:44 PMSubject: Renal Failure / PEG

This is probably the most important piece of information we've found yet regarding the similarities of PEG and EG....................Also, , I forgot to tell you that in this article it states about the high phosphates, etc.

Answer to person inquiring about how long it takes to rid the body...........

For the current patient, a urine analysis 30 h after ingestion showed positive oxalate crystals.

Her urine output did not return to normal range until 30 h

after ingestion, while serum creatinine did not recover

until 15 days after ingestion.

The adverse effects of PEG share some common

features with intoxication of ethylene glycol, which is a

common ingredient among automotive antifreeze solutions and industrial solvents. The laboratory features of

ethylene glycol intoxication include high anion-gap

metabolic acidosis, wide osmolal gap, and hypocalcemia.

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The liver metabolizes most of the ethylene glycol via

alcohol dyhydrogenase, with the final metabolite being

oxalic acid (oxalate). Oxalate combines with calcium to

form calcium oxalate crystals, which precipitate and are

toxic to the kidneys.

[14]

To: miralax Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 6:15:36 PMSubject: Re: new here and looking for anyone who experienced my same situation

Hope this works, doesn't want to attach anymore? Read first paragraph about the oxalate crystals present in urine after ingesting

www.ntuh.gov.tw-PMR-Lists-List14-Attachments-164-10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdf

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thanks, i will print out the attachmnet and bring to my doctor today, Is there any more recent documentation from the FDA showing they are still investigating

To: miralax Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:40 AMSubject: Re: How long for miralax to leave body, if ever. [1 Attachment]

see attached

To: "miralax " <miralax >Sent: Tue, July 26, 2011 7:22:13 AMSubject: Re: How long for miralax to leave body, if ever.

what kind of tics did he have? mine is having large motor tics. he moves side to side, sucks in stomach, loud sniffing,

To: "miralax " <miralax >Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:04 PMSubject: Re: How long for miralax to leave body, if ever.

My son had tics when he was 5. We stopped the miralax and the tics would come and go for about the next 3-4 months. He is 7 now and the tics have not come back.

Good luck. It was such a stressful time.Sent from my iPhone

thanks, where is the files section

To: miralax Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 11:27 AMSubject: Re: How long for miralax to leave body, if ever.

Lynn, please check out the files section of urinary excretion of PEG. ALL doesn't come back out of the body. 4-15% is not recovered and this was referenced by the medical director of Braintree Labs, the original maker of Miralax

To: miralax Sent: Sun, July 24, 2011 9:19:51 AMSubject: Re: How long for miralax to leave body, if ever.

Lynn, the article is below, it says her urine did not report to normal until 30 hrs. We have seen calcium oxalate crystals and problems with urine, kidney, etc. up to a decade later.

To: "miralax " <miralax >Sent: Sun, July 24, 2011 8:42:37 AMSubject: How long for miralax to leave body, if ever.

Has anyone tried an all natural clean out?? Or is passing it through the urine the only way it leaves the body? We r on day 5 of my son no longer taking miralax. He has been going to the bathroom fine since we stopped, however, still has the symptoms. I guess it takes 15 days as someone has posted.

To: "miralax " <miralax >Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 7:53 PMSubject: Fw: Fw: Renal Failure / PEG

I can't remember where I found this very important piece of information but years ago many said they were using PEG in spinal cord injury patients but I assumed it was using it like stem cell research or along the lines of mending the spinal cord. If anyone has time, help me try to find where this article came from and maybe look up more info on PEG with spinal cord patients to see what else we can find. below is the article.............gives merit to the questions we've had all along. Can anyone figure out where it was published? I'd like to find these researchers.

----- Forwarded Message ----To: "miralax " <miralax >Sent: Sat, July 23, 2011 6:46:09 PMSubject: Fw: Renal Failure / PEG

----- Forwarded Message ----To: miralax Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 7:00:44 PMSubject: Renal Failure / PEG

This is probably the most important piece of information we've found yet regarding the similarities of PEG and EG....................Also, , I forgot to tell you that in this article it states about the high phosphates, etc.

Answer to person inquiring about how long it takes to rid the body...........

For the current patient, a urine analysis 30 h after ingestion showed positive oxalate crystals.

Her urine output did not return to normal range until 30 h

after ingestion, while serum creatinine did not recover

until 15 days after ingestion.

The adverse effects of PEG share some common

features with intoxication of ethylene glycol, which is a

common ingredient among automotive antifreeze solutions and industrial solvents. The laboratory features of

ethylene glycol intoxication include high anion-gap

metabolic acidosis, wide osmolal gap, and hypocalcemia.

[14]

The liver metabolizes most of the ethylene glycol via

alcohol dyhydrogenase, with the final metabolite being

oxalic acid (oxalate). Oxalate combines with calcium to

form calcium oxalate crystals, which precipitate and are

toxic to the kidneys.

[14]

To: miralax Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 6:15:36 PMSubject: Re: new here and looking for anyone who experienced my same situation

Hope this works, doesn't want to attach anymore? Read first paragraph about the oxalate crystals present in urine after ingesting

www.ntuh.gov.tw-PMR-Lists-List14-Attachments-164-10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdf

To: miralax Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 7:36:01 PMSubject: new here and looking for anyone who experienced my same situation

My 5 year old son has been on 1 capful of miralax for 28 days per doctor for constipation. Week 1 frequent urination and bedwetting (doctor said it was from being very backed up). Week 2 extreme fatique (eyes 1/2 shut), eye blinking tic, spaciness, change of personality to very mellow. Week 3 started all the different motor tics which he still has presently daily and he is still vert tired at times. During this time took him to the doctors 3 times and never once did they think it was miralax and neither did I. Last night I entered miralax and tics and found all this information and have been just blown away by it all. My son has an eeg on monday. I told my doctor today about miralax and she said there is no scientific evidence and doubts his symptoms are from it. She said if he had any extra in him he would urinate it out and it wouldnt go into the blood stream or effect brain. I would love to hear from anyone that has had a similiar situation.

Does anyone know how long it takes for miralax to be out of the system. Tonight will be 2 full days for him and he still has the tics. Thanks so much!!!