Guest guest Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 The first time I used MMS2 I was terrified - a year ago. I think I took 1/4th of a capsule and drank 3 cups of water. I was drinking so much water that my stomach hurt from the water! Jim Humble recommends even starting with 1/8th capsule if you are worried about a herx. He says, take what you are comfortable with. Currently, I'm on my 6th day of MMS1 10/doses per day - 4 drops per dose - I am still mildly herxing.A year ago, when I did MMS1 and MMS2 I herxed horrible. I didn't really titrate up, then I crashed my adrenals. I, like you, was freaked about the chemical part. Now, when I think about all of the warnings on pharmaceuticals it doesn't seem like such a big deal. A friend and I have committed to doing MMS1000, 2000, and 3000 over the next 3 months. If we have to go slower we will.I was frightened too. Very. But the stuff seemed to kill the bugs. (long story, but I had to quit, trying again now) I bought the CH for the MMS2 today and I will be honest, I am scared to use it on the boys (18, 17, 14). We have been on MMS1 for quite a while now, with no herxes. I do have the OO capsules, can I just fill them half way instead of buying the O capsules? Have any of you given the CH to your children? My two older ones are *man size*...lol, but my 14 year old is about 113 lbs. Should I give him less of a dose? When I bought it today, it smelled awful and powerful. There are so many cautions that fear crept in. Help!! Have any of you gotten sick from using this? I want to give it to them, but am just scared... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Thanks, ! I know what you mean about the pharmaceuticals. I think I will start with the 1/8 capsule. The tough thing with teenage boys is that it is very hard to get them with empty stomachs! How long after they take it can they eat? > > The first time I used MMS2 I was terrified - a year ago. I think I took > 1/4th of a capsule and drank 3 cups of water. I was drinking so much water > that my stomach hurt from the water! Jim Humble recommends even starting > with 1/8th capsule if you are worried about a herx. He says, take what you > are comfortable with. > > Currently, I'm on my 6th day of MMS1 10/doses per day - 4 drops per dose - I > am still mildly herxing. > > A year ago, when I did MMS1 and MMS2 I herxed horrible. I didn't really > titrate up, then I crashed my adrenals. I, like you, was freaked about the > chemical part. Now, when I think about all of the warnings on > pharmaceuticals it doesn't seem like such a big deal. > > A friend and I have committed to doing MMS1000, 2000, and 3000 over the next > 3 months. If we have to go slower we will. > > I was frightened too. Very. But the stuff seemed to kill the bugs. (long > story, but I had to quit, trying again now) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 I know what you mean about the pharmaceuticals. I think I will start with the 1/8 capsule. The tough thing with teenage boys is that it is very hard to get them with empty stomachs! Yep, I can really relate. How long after they take it can they eat? I don't know. I think this is just about impossible with teenagers, let alone myself. When I start MMS2 I'll probably take a dose first thing in the morning, then do my best the rest of the day. I'll try and catch myself 2 hours after a meal, then wait 15 to 30 minutes. Realistically, if it takes your stomach 2 hours to empty, and you are supposed to take MMS2 every two hours, then you could never eat . Maybe I'll wait 90 minutes after a meal. This is difficult, but if doing the MMS protocol for 3-5 months greatly improves my health - well, I'll make the sacrifice. For teenagers - I'll be praying for you. Hope you are homeschooling so you can manage everyone better. L > > The first time I used MMS2 I was terrified - a year ago. I think I took > 1/4th of a capsule and drank 3 cups of water. I was drinking so much water > that my stomach hurt from the water! Jim Humble recommends even starting > with 1/8th capsule if you are worried about a herx. He says, take what you > are comfortable with. > > Currently, I'm on my 6th day of MMS1 10/doses per day - 4 drops per dose - I > am still mildly herxing. > > A year ago, when I did MMS1 and MMS2 I herxed horrible. I didn't really > titrate up, then I crashed my adrenals. I, like you, was freaked about the > chemical part. Now, when I think about all of the warnings on > pharmaceuticals it doesn't seem like such a big deal. > > A friend and I have committed to doing MMS1000, 2000, and 3000 over the next > 3 months. If we have to go slower we will. > > I was frightened too. Very. But the stuff seemed to kill the bugs. (long > story, but I had to quit, trying again now) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Yes, we do homeschool, so that makes things a bit easier. I have the OO capsules at home, but need to get the O and then start at 1/8 capsule. > > > > > > The first time I used MMS2 I was terrified - a year ago. I think I took > > > 1/4th of a capsule and drank 3 cups of water. I was drinking so much > > water > > > that my stomach hurt from the water! Jim Humble recommends even starting > > > with 1/8th capsule if you are worried about a herx. He says, take what > > you > > > are comfortable with. > > > > > > Currently, I'm on my 6th day of MMS1 10/doses per day - 4 drops per dose > > - I > > > am still mildly herxing. > > > > > > A year ago, when I did MMS1 and MMS2 I herxed horrible. I didn't really > > > titrate up, then I crashed my adrenals. I, like you, was freaked about > > the > > > chemical part. Now, when I think about all of the warnings on > > > pharmaceuticals it doesn't seem like such a big deal. > > > > > > A friend and I have committed to doing MMS1000, 2000, and 3000 over the > > next > > > 3 months. If we have to go slower we will. > > > > > > I was frightened too. Very. But the stuff seemed to kill the bugs. (long > > > story, but I had to quit, trying again now) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Hi , If MMS1 is used properly, you don't get any herxes!! Take care, Jim > > I bought the CH for the MMS2 today and I will be honest, I am scared to use it on the boys (18, 17, 14). We have been on MMS1 for quite a while now, with no herxes. > I do have the OO capsules, can I just fill them half way instead of buying the O capsules? > Have any of you given the CH to your children? My two older ones are *man size*...lol, but my 14 year old is about 113 lbs. Should I give him less of a dose? > When I bought it today, it smelled awful and powerful. > There are so many cautions that fear crept in. > Help!! > Have any of you gotten sick from using this? > I want to give it to them, but am just scared... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Jim, Do you mean MMS2? The boys had no herxes with MMS1, thankfully! > > > > I bought the CH for the MMS2 today and I will be honest, I am scared to use it on the boys (18, 17, 14). We have been on MMS1 for quite a while now, with no herxes. > > I do have the OO capsules, can I just fill them half way instead of buying the O capsules? > > Have any of you given the CH to your children? My two older ones are *man size*...lol, but my 14 year old is about 113 lbs. Should I give him less of a dose? > > When I bought it today, it smelled awful and powerful. > > There are so many cautions that fear crept in. > > Help!! > > Have any of you gotten sick from using this? > > I want to give it to them, but am just scared... > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 mary a year or so back i tried the mms 2 without the capsule , only took a few grains of it and got very ill very quickly I threw up for hours afterwards.I would start with a very low dose in the capsules even less than an 1/8 capsule, maybe just a pinch of mms2 in a capsule if you are uneasy about stomach issues with the kids, Then slowly build up once a weekor so.It doesnt matter how slow the process is, just like mms1 or salt/c you start slowly and work up as your body tolerates it.I only started doing mms1000 in the last month on a daily basis and i probably do not ever get ten hours let alone eight doses in but i try .Im herxing at 4 doses a day and the brain fog is persistent with the herxing so Im staying at 4-5 doses a day until the herxes ease upI may try the mms2 somewhere down the road again .Im doing a lot of different treatments at once , mms , Rife and herbals so I dont want to go to far too fastjanRe: MMS2 ? Posted by: " H" 40dayjourney@... fightingtbi Date: Mon May 16, 2011 9:13 am ((PDT))The first time I used MMS2 I was terrified - a year ago. I think I took1/4th of a capsule and drank 3 cups of water. I was drinking so much waterthat my stomach hurt from the water! Jim Humble recommends even startingwith 1/8th capsule if you are worried about a herx. He says, take what youare comfortable with."Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Be sur eto take 2 big glass of water Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Mon, May 16, 2011 11:48:41 PMSubject: Re: MMS2 ? mary a year or so back i tried the mms 2 without the capsule , only took a few grains of it and got very ill very quickly I threw up for hours afterwards.I would start with a very low dose in the capsules even less than an 1/8 capsule, maybe just a pinch of mms2 in a capsule if you are uneasy about stomach issues with the kids, Then slowly build up once a weekor so.It doesnt matter how slow the process is, just like mms1 or salt/c you start slowly and work up as your body tolerates it.I only started doing mms1000 in the last month on a daily basis and i probably do not ever get ten hours let alone eight doses in but i try .Im herxing at 4 doses a day and the brain fog is persistent with the herxing so Im staying at 4-5 doses a day until the herxes ease upI may try the mms2 somewhere down the road again .Im doing a lot of different treatments at once , mms , Rife and herbals so I dont want to go to far too fastjanRe: MMS2 ? Posted by: " H" 40dayjourney@... fightingtbi Date: Mon May 16, 2011 9:13 am ((PDT))The first time I used MMS2 I was terrified - a year ago. I think I took1/4th of a capsule and drank 3 cups of water. I was drinking so much waterthat my stomach hurt from the water! Jim Humble recommends even startingwith 1/8th capsule if you are worried about a herx. He says, take what youare comfortable with."Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 ,Just for everyone's information and clarification: MMS2 should NEVER be taken without encapsulating. Our stomach's are designed for such things, our mouths and esophagus are not. Our own stomach acid is something we would not want in our mouths or esophagus (think: heartburn). I believe, if I remember correctly, that posted after this happened and had misunderstood the directions. The directions do say you can take less than a capsule and it is implied that it would still be encapsulated. However, with our Lyme fog such things can be misconstrued. Always put MMS2 in a capsule and drink the recommended amount of water. I have a very sensitive stomach. 1 drop of citric acid will feel like knives for the whole day. And grapefruit seed extract is very caustic to my stomach and bladder. I was so freaked to take MMS2, and started with a fraction. I had no problems with it whatsoever. After a while, I cut down on my water because I was simply having a stomach ache from the sheer quantity of water I was drinking. Well, it's been a year and I'm ready to do the entire MMS Lyme protocol. One thing that bothered me about the 65% chemical was the fillers. Well, I looked at the ingredients and it doesn't contain any fillers. It's 100% whatever - which produces 65% of whatever (Sorry can't remember the chemical). When Jim (Jax) says you shouldn't herx on MMS1 he means you shouldn't take enough to cause a herx - not that it won't make you herx. It's interesting that your boys did not herx. Did you build up very slowly? I dove right in: 4 drops 8-12 / day. I'm herxing, but it's mild, and pretty much gone if I don't coil. I do find coiling brings on pretty good herxes - I think that's a good thing. I've been doing the MMS1000 for a week now. I tested my pH a bit ago and it's in the neutral range. ( my last dose of MMS was several hours before I tested.) I noticed that while on MMS1 that my pH ranges between neutral and alkaline. I'm wondering if that is what helps fight disease. If I remember correctly, disease cannot live in alkaline environments. It will be interesting to see what the MMS2 does to my pH levels. I had decided to keep my boys home and homeschool them this year and manage all of our illness. They fought me on every front - even though one wants to get better, he just wants to pop a pill. My oldest is still homeschooling, but will probably do running start next year. My junior higher is back in school. I'm sure it would have been easier if I'd homeschooled from the beginning and if a few other details had been established years ago. I just haven't had the energy to fight them on so many fronts. I think it can be done, though. I wish you the best and pray for your success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 , You are very sweet and thank you for your prayers. Yes, homeschooling makes this *project* so much easier, I am unsure if I would be able to continue with them in school. Yes, I read in JH's book that taken orally MMS2 is VERY caustic to the mouth/esophagus. I would never attempt that. I started with the boys for about two weeks straight, 3 drops 8x's a day and now we are doing 6 drops 4x's a day, which I will continue during the MMS2 protocol. The only reason I think they did not herx was because I did the HP a couple months back. has also had three Rife treatments (21-27, 432, 484) at 5 minutes each with no herxes.....I AM WAITING FOR HERXES!!!....lol I would think herxing is also good, which does concern me for Chris. I am wondering if the Lyme is primarily deep in his back/bladder, which will take longer to deal with? I am saving for a coil machine to buy within the next two months. I am very excited at the thought of getting one! I did buy a Stretch Trainer for him to stretch all his muscles..it is a great machine, which is helping us all. > > , > > Just for everyone's information and clarification: MMS2 should NEVER be > taken without encapsulating. Our stomach's are designed for such things, > our mouths and esophagus are not. Our own stomach acid is something we > would not want in our mouths or esophagus (think: heartburn). I believe, if > I remember correctly, that posted after this happened and had > misunderstood the directions. The directions do say you can take less than > a capsule and it is implied that it would still be encapsulated. However, > with our Lyme fog such things can be misconstrued. Always put MMS2 in a > capsule and drink the recommended amount of water. > > I have a very sensitive stomach. 1 drop of citric acid will feel like knives > for the whole day. And grapefruit seed extract is very caustic to my stomach > and bladder. I was so freaked to take MMS2, and started with a fraction. I > had no problems with it whatsoever. After a while, I cut down on my water > because I was simply having a stomach ache from the sheer quantity of water > I was drinking. > > Well, it's been a year and I'm ready to do the entire MMS Lyme protocol. One > thing that bothered me about the 65% chemical was the fillers. Well, I > looked at the ingredients and it doesn't contain any fillers. It's 100% * > whatever* - which *produces* 65% of *whatever* (Sorry can't remember the > chemical). > > When Jim (Jax) says you shouldn't herx on MMS1 he means you shouldn't take > enough to cause a herx - not that it won't make you herx. It's interesting > that your boys did not herx. Did you build up very slowly? I dove right in: > 4 drops 8-12 / day. I'm herxing, but it's mild, and pretty much gone if I > don't coil. I do find coiling brings on pretty good herxes - I think that's > a good thing. > > I've been doing the MMS1000 for a week now. I tested my pH a bit ago and > it's in the neutral range. ( my last dose of MMS was several hours before I > tested.) I noticed that while on MMS1 that my pH ranges between neutral and > alkaline. I'm wondering if that is what helps fight disease. If I remember > correctly, disease cannot live in alkaline environments. It will be > interesting to see what the MMS2 does to my pH levels. > > I had decided to keep my boys home and homeschool them this year and manage > all of our illness. They fought me on every front - even though one wants > to get better, he just wants to pop a pill. My oldest is still > homeschooling, but will probably do running start next year. My junior > higher is back in school. I'm sure it would have been easier if I'd > homeschooled from the beginning and if a few other details had been > established years ago. I just haven't had the energy to fight them on so > many fronts. I think it can be done, though. I wish you the best and pray > for your success. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 , I know how homeschooling is, I have five boys and have homeschooled for the last 13 years. It was intense trying to bring my oldest two from school when they where young and I quit Baylor Medical School so it was a shocker for all of us. We still homeschool we just use curriculums that are self taught so they have to do most the work and leaves me and my husband with less today, hubby took over the last six months since my dx with lyme, I sometimes think about putting them in pbschool but then I change my mind. dana From: H Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 11:22 PM To: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Re: Re: MMS2 ? ,Just for everyone's information and clarification: MMS2 should NEVER be taken without encapsulating. Our stomach's are designed for such things, our mouths and esophagus are not. Our own stomach acid is something we would not want in our mouths or esophagus (think: heartburn). I believe, if I remember correctly, that posted after this happened and had misunderstood the directions. The directions do say you can take less than a capsule and it is implied that it would still be encapsulated. However, with our Lyme fog such things can be misconstrued. Always put MMS2 in a capsule and drink the recommended amount of water.I have a very sensitive stomach. 1 drop of citric acid will feel like knives for the whole day. And grapefruit seed extract is very caustic to my stomach and bladder. I was so freaked to take MMS2, and started with a fraction. I had no problems with it whatsoever. After a while, I cut down on my water because I was simply having a stomach ache from the sheer quantity of water I was drinking.Well, it's been a year and I'm ready to do the entire MMS Lyme protocol. One thing that bothered me about the 65% chemical was the fillers. Well, I looked at the ingredients and it doesn't contain any fillers. It's 100% whatever - which produces 65% of whatever (Sorry can't remember the chemical).When Jim (Jax) says you shouldn't herx on MMS1 he means you shouldn't take enough to cause a herx - not that it won't make you herx. It's interesting that your boys did not herx. Did you build up very slowly? I dove right in: 4 drops 8-12 / day. I'm herxing, but it's mild, and pretty much gone if I don't coil. I do find coiling brings on pretty good herxes - I think that's a good thing. I've been doing the MMS1000 for a week now. I tested my pH a bit ago and it's in the neutral range. ( my last dose of MMS was several hours before I tested.) I noticed that while on MMS1 that my pH ranges between neutral and alkaline. I'm wondering if that is what helps fight disease. If I remember correctly, disease cannot live in alkaline environments. It will be interesting to see what the MMS2 does to my pH levels.I had decided to keep my boys home and homeschool them this year and manage all of our illness. They fought me on every front - even though one wants to get better, he just wants to pop a pill. My oldest is still homeschooling, but will probably do running start next year. My junior higher is back in school. I'm sure it would have been easier if I'd homeschooled from the beginning and if a few other details had been established years ago. I just haven't had the energy to fight them on so many fronts. I think it can be done, though. I wish you the best and pray for your success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Hi , Here is some info on MMS2... It's been used my many thousands of folk now for about 3 years.. I have not heard anything bad about it other than the smell and taste... MMS2 is calcium hypochlorite, once you consume it and it gets wet it turns to hypochlorous acid, this is the very acid your immune system uses to kill pathogens... http://www.miraclemineral.co.nz/mms2.htm http://www.puricore.com/technology_humanbody.aspx Jim > > I bought the CH for the MMS2 today and I will be honest, I am scared to use it on the boys (18, 17, 14). We have been on MMS1 for quite a while now, with no herxes. > I do have the OO capsules, can I just fill them half way instead of buying the O capsules? > Have any of you given the CH to your children? My two older ones are *man size*...lol, but my 14 year old is about 113 lbs. Should I give him less of a dose? > When I bought it today, it smelled awful and powerful. > There are so many cautions that fear crept in. > Help!! > Have any of you gotten sick from using this? > I want to give it to them, but am just scared... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Hi and , Best to take MMS2 1 hr (maybe 1/2 hr) before and definitely 2 hours after food... Most complain about MMS2 because it gets caught up in food and presents with a bad taste... Take on an empty stomach and you avoid this, plus you want this to clear the stomach as fast as possible... I've been racking my Lyme brain as to where I learned this, ah, found it... Walter Last is probably one of the most famous and best NDs on earth... Here is what he has to say about MMS2... Please keep in mind the protocols he talks about are now a bit different, this was written a few years ago... http://www.health-science-spirit.com/MMS2.htm >>>>There are discussions on the Internet whether to take the capsules before or after meals. This is easy to answer from a chemical perspective. Hypochlorous acid reacts immediately with hydrochloric acid to form chlorine. We definitely do not want that. Therefore the idea is to get the capsule through the stomach as quickly as possible before it dissolves. When taking a large amount of water on an empty stomach then it goes through without much delay and the capsule can dissolve in the duodenum. But after having eaten it dissolves in the stomach and you may get a burp of chlorine gas. This may not be a problem for those who have little or no stomach acid, but it is not worth taking the risk. Therefore the most important rule: Always take the capsule with plenty of water on an empty stomach.<<< After reading this, I think my original statement of 8 oz of water is not enough... I would use at least 12 oz, but 16 oz is even better.. Not only does this push the capsule faster, but it further dilutes the stomach acid... Take care, Jim > > > > > > The first time I used MMS2 I was terrified - a year ago. I think I took > > > 1/4th of a capsule and drank 3 cups of water. I was drinking so much > > water > > > that my stomach hurt from the water! Jim Humble recommends even starting > > > with 1/8th capsule if you are worried about a herx. He says, take what > > you > > > are comfortable with. > > > > > > Currently, I'm on my 6th day of MMS1 10/doses per day - 4 drops per dose > > - I > > > am still mildly herxing. > > > > > > A year ago, when I did MMS1 and MMS2 I herxed horrible. I didn't really > > > titrate up, then I crashed my adrenals. I, like you, was freaked about > > the > > > chemical part. Now, when I think about all of the warnings on > > > pharmaceuticals it doesn't seem like such a big deal. > > > > > > A friend and I have committed to doing MMS1000, 2000, and 3000 over the > > next > > > 3 months. If we have to go slower we will. > > > > > > I was frightened too. Very. But the stuff seemed to kill the bugs. (long > > > story, but I had to quit, trying again now) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Hi , MMS1 if used properly will have little to no herxes as it tends to neutralize the pathogens... But if you take a lot too quickly, there will be a herx... Any buying protocol can cause herxes if too much is taken too quickly... I am not sure how much of '0' is in " 00... If you have any supps that are in 0 capsules, empty one out, fill it with MMS2 and dump it into the 00 capsule, that way you will know for sure.. Here is a capsule chart to help you identify a " 0 " capsule.. http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/category/unfilled-capsules/?c1=GAW_CM_NW & sour\ ce=USA_caps & kw=size_2_gelatin_capsules_phm & cr5=2389370427 & gclid=CLmq6qHt26YCFYtS\ 2godeUcF7g I would dose down for smaller sized kids... :-) It does smell bad, but it is actually a weaker acid.. Just go slow and watch to see how they feel after being treated... The goal for MMS2 is to get to the max dose, but better to go slow to get there and not have any severe herxes.. I have MMS2, but still have not used it.. Others using it only complain about the " burping gas " that sometimes happens, this may be caused by not taking on an empty stomach or taking in enough water... I now think 12 - 16 oz per dose of MMS2 is best.. If this is taken 1 hr before meals, it will dilute stomach acid... To increase stomach acid (important) take 1 tsp - 1 Tbsp of Bragg's apple cider vinegar in 1 - 3 oz (less is best) of water 1/2 hr before the meal, ACV causes the body to produce more stomach acid. When you stop and think about what MMS2 really is (hypochlorous acid) you are just taking in more of what the body actually uses already... Most who use MMS2 prefer it to MMS1 and want to use only it, but Jim Humble says to only use MMS while using MMS1... MMS1 though can be used alone.. But for Lyme both are eventually needed.. Have you taken MMS2 yet? Try it first and this should put your fears to rest... Nothing I have heard from Jim Humble hasn't been straight forward... He's used MMS2 at least 6 months before telling the public about it.. Now it's been used for about 2-3 years and just like MMS1, nobody has been harmed by it.. When I first heard of MMS, I really had a tough time thinking it would do any good... Now I consider it one of the best things we can use for Lyme or any pathogen based disease... Take care, Jim > > > > > > I bought the CH for the MMS2 today and I will be honest, I am scared to use it on the boys (18, 17, 14). We have been on MMS1 for quite a while now, with no herxes. > > > I do have the OO capsules, can I just fill them half way instead of buying the O capsules? > > > Have any of you given the CH to your children? My two older ones are *man size*...lol, but my 14 year old is about 113 lbs. Should I give him less of a dose? > > > When I bought it today, it smelled awful and powerful. > > > There are so many cautions that fear crept in. > > > Help!! > > > Have any of you gotten sick from using this? > > > I want to give it to them, but am just scared... > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Hi Jan S, The reason you felt terrible from taking MMS2 without a capsule is when it interacts with hydrochloric acid (stomach acid) it produces chlorine... By encapsulating it and taking it with a tall glass of water, you push it beyond the stomach quickly, thus avoiding the interaction with stomach acid.. MMS1 mixes well with stomach acid, but not MMS2, it really needs to get beyond the stomach quickly, thus taking on an empty stomach and with a tall glass of water... Have you moeved? Are you down there yet... :-) Take care Jim > > mary a year or so back i tried the mms 2 without the capsule , only took a few grains of it and got very ill very quickly I threw up for hours afterwards.I would start with a very low dose in the capsules even less than an 1/8 capsule, maybe just a pinch of mms2 in a capsule if you are uneasy about stomach issues with the kids, Then slowly build up once a weekor so.It doesnt matter how slow the process is, just like mms1 or salt/c you start slowly and work up as your body tolerates it.I only started doing mms1000 in the last month on a daily basis and i probably do not ever get ten hours let alone eight doses in but i try .Im herxing at 4 doses a day and the brain fog is persistent with the herxing so Im staying at 4-5 doses a day until the herxes ease up > I may try the mms2 somewhere down the road again .Im doing a lot of different treatments at once , mms , Rife and herbals so I dont want to go to far too fast > > jan > > > Re: MMS2 ? > Posted by: " H " 40dayjourney@... fightingtbi > Date: Mon May 16, 2011 9:13 am ((PDT)) > > The first time I used MMS2 I was terrified - a year ago. I think I took > 1/4th of a capsule and drank 3 cups of water. I was drinking so much water > that my stomach hurt from the water! Jim Humble recommends even starting > with 1/8th capsule if you are worried about a herx. He says, take what you > are comfortable with. > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Hi , >>>>I've been doing the MMS1000 for a week now. I tested my pH a bit ago and it's in the neutral range. (my last dose of MMS was several hours before I tested.) I noticed that while on MMS1 that my pH ranges between neutral and alkaline. I'm wondering if that is what helps fight disease. If I remember correctly, disease cannot live in alkaline environments. It will be interesting to see what the MMS2 does to my pH levels.<<<< Yes, alkalinity is what kills disease... Basic MMS1 info is it kills any pathogens/cyst/biofilms and oxidizes heavy metals in the body that have a lower pH than our body pH... But it isn't specifically that MMS alkalizes the body, which it does, but rather than MMS/chlorine dioxide in the body is itself alkaline and comes in contact with an acidic pathogen and boom! A mini explosion happens and that pathogen is no more... Take care, Jim > > , > > Just for everyone's information and clarification: MMS2 should NEVER be > taken without encapsulating. Our stomach's are designed for such things, > our mouths and esophagus are not. Our own stomach acid is something we > would not want in our mouths or esophagus (think: heartburn). I believe, if > I remember correctly, that posted after this happened and had > misunderstood the directions. The directions do say you can take less than > a capsule and it is implied that it would still be encapsulated. However, > with our Lyme fog such things can be misconstrued. Always put MMS2 in a > capsule and drink the recommended amount of water. > > I have a very sensitive stomach. 1 drop of citric acid will feel like knives > for the whole day. And grapefruit seed extract is very caustic to my stomach > and bladder. I was so freaked to take MMS2, and started with a fraction. I > had no problems with it whatsoever. After a while, I cut down on my water > because I was simply having a stomach ache from the sheer quantity of water > I was drinking. > > Well, it's been a year and I'm ready to do the entire MMS Lyme protocol. One > thing that bothered me about the 65% chemical was the fillers. Well, I > looked at the ingredients and it doesn't contain any fillers. It's 100% * > whatever* - which *produces* 65% of *whatever* (Sorry can't remember the > chemical). > > When Jim (Jax) says you shouldn't herx on MMS1 he means you shouldn't take > enough to cause a herx - not that it won't make you herx. It's interesting > that your boys did not herx. Did you build up very slowly? I dove right in: > 4 drops 8-12 / day. I'm herxing, but it's mild, and pretty much gone if I > don't coil. I do find coiling brings on pretty good herxes - I think that's > a good thing. > > I've been doing the MMS1000 for a week now. I tested my pH a bit ago and > it's in the neutral range. ( my last dose of MMS was several hours before I > tested.) I noticed that while on MMS1 that my pH ranges between neutral and > alkaline. I'm wondering if that is what helps fight disease. If I remember > correctly, disease cannot live in alkaline environments. It will be > interesting to see what the MMS2 does to my pH levels. > > I had decided to keep my boys home and homeschool them this year and manage > all of our illness. They fought me on every front - even though one wants > to get better, he just wants to pop a pill. My oldest is still > homeschooling, but will probably do running start next year. My junior > higher is back in school. I'm sure it would have been easier if I'd > homeschooled from the beginning and if a few other details had been > established years ago. I just haven't had the energy to fight them on so > many fronts. I think it can be done, though. I wish you the best and pray > for your success. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Hi JimYes Im down near Stuart now on the treasure coast .i love my little house MMS2 I didnt know about the capsule thing.Im not sure that a gelatin capsule will get beyond the stomach first as gelatin dissolves in water, I wonder if the vegetable capsules might be a better option for MMS2.????next time I try MMS2 i will try the capsule thing and see.I have a very sensitive stomach as is but will give it another go eventually.the die off of pathogens with MMS1 is giving my liver a rough time. my body has trouble with detoxing so i will be upping my time on rife to clear the liver as well as doing more detoxjanRe: MMS2 ? Posted by: "jimjax2" jimjax2@... jimjax2 Date: Wed May 18, 2011 2:26 pm ((PDT))Hi Jan S,The reason you felt terrible from taking MMS2 without a capsule is when it interacts with hydrochloric acid (stomach acid) it produces chlorine... By encapsulating it and taking it with a tall glass of water, you push it beyond the stomach quickly, thus avoiding the interaction with stomach acid.. MMS1 mixes well with stomach acid, but not MMS2, it really needs to get beyond the stomach quickly, thus taking on an empty stomach and with a tall glass of water... Have you moeved? Are you down there yet... :-)Take careJim"Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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