Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 , Your honesty and willingness to share with us the status of your health says a lot about you as a person. Struggling with lyme we learn the hard way to be guarded with our trust. The fact that you share with us so openly gives you so much credibility IMO. Thank you. It also raises awareness for one to be on the lookout for symptoms once one has reclaimed their health. I am so glad you are even better than before and wish you continued wellness. Again, thank you for all you have done for the lyme community. Your book is wonderful and I look forward to your next publication. I appreciate your honesty on your personal experience with the disease and recovery. It gives those of us still fighting much needed hope. Blessings, Kim > > Hi all, > > I posted in December about a possible Babesia flareup that I was having. Since that time, lots of people have emailed me, called me, and approached me, asking me questions that indicated lots of rumors were flying around. Everything from " Oh my God, Rosner has relapsed! " to " Rosner may be dead! " LOL. > > In any case, I can understand the speculation, with my prominence in the Lyme community, I can see the need for me to be very clear about where I am currently at with my health. So, here's a short note to provide some clarity on what happened and where I'm at now. > > It turns out my issues were in fact Babesia. I had never had Babesia symptoms before, so it was new to me and frightening. Took me a few weeks to figure out what was going on. Finally, with use of a few Babesia herbs, I ended the flare up. What surprised me the most was how easy it was to suppress the Babesia; everyone says it is so hard to get rid of, but for me, about 3 weeks of herbs like Noni, cryptolepsis, Enula, etc., knocked it back / out. Not sure if all my years doing other therapies made this easier; perhaps there wasn't much infection left in my body. > > Anyway, here's the good news: As I wrote about in my Lyme/Rife book, and as Doug MacLean taught me, it seems that people can have mini-flareups even years after they are mostly symptom free. Doug mentioned that these mini-flareups are often just additional layers coming off the onion which is, in essence, a good thing. > > It just so happens that this is what I believe was going on. Now that I am past this event, I am feeling even better than ever, which is why I believe it was a layer coming off the onion. I would say I was around 90% before the event, and about 95% now. Going from 90% to 95% may not seem like much, but let me tell you, it is a lot when you are experiencing it. This is consistent with other times (mostly 5+ years ago) when layers were coming off the onion; especially during Spring and Fall, I used to notice flareups that felt like relapses but ultimately ended up being layers coming off and me getting closer to wellness. > > So this gives me even more confidence that the path I have been on is correct, albeit perhaps a longer, more winding road than any of us would like to take. > > I will say, though, I've learned A LOT over the last 4 months, thanks in large part to the wonderful, helpful people on the online groups. Several new pieces of information not found in my books but found in the Yahoo! groups really helped me through the rough spot and perhaps are even responsible for some of my additional gain to 95% well currently. In short, these would be MMS, the KPU protocol, various specialized Babesia herbs (alluded to above) biophotonic therapy, and additional chelation/metals removal, especially with the Cutler protocol I am so fond of. I'm keeping notes of the information I've learned but which doesn't appear in my books, so I can one day publish this information in a cohesive fashion to add to what I've already published. > > I have also realized a place or two where I now DISAGREE with what I wrote in my prior books. Not many places, just a sentence or two, here and there. One of the biggies was my hypothesis in the Lyme/Rife book that the body can heal itself on its own without supplements and outside support, once the bacteria are gone. My stance on this is now somewhat the opposite - I think the toxicity and dysfunction in our bodies are so advanced by the time we get Lyme disease that it may take years of supplementation and lifstyle adaptation and improvement to reverse the garbage pit conditions within our body in order to make the environment, or internal bio-terrain, again friendly to health. In fact, I believe our modern, industrialized society is so poisoned and non-healthy that even healthy, non-Lyme people can expect to become sick if they don't take drastic measures to clean up their lifestyle including but not limited to; eating organic, filtering water, avoiding plastics, supplementing deficient nutrients, etc. > > Therefore, I would love to write another book, or at least revise my books somewhat, as time allows. But that will come in time (right now I have two small children at home, and not a lot of free time!). I am human, and hence my writings of past, present, and future are imperfect, thus the need for revisions from time to time. Nevertheless, I still stand behind most of what I said in my books (probably 95% of what I said), and I still feel that information was the primary vehicle to my relative wellness, less a few details I've learned recently. > > But the real point of me posting this message is just to clarify and hopefully to stem some of the rumors taking place. > > So, in summary: > > MYTH: Lots of things about Rosner; dead, sick again, relapse, etc. > > FACT: Babesia flareup in late 2010 that lasted approximately 6 weeks, followed by usage of, and learning about, several new modalities. Peeling another layer off the onion. Presently feeling even better than before, at about 95%. Not 100% cured, but certainly not anywhere near the " myth " statuses I've been hearing about! Would like to put some of my new-found information and learning (thanks everyone for your selfless teaching and time with me!) into a book at some point. > > Please forgive any typos in this message; I don't have time to proof-read or polish this, just want to get it out there! Also, there may be a few things I'm missing in this posting; I did, however, keep copious notes through the event and hope to make sense of them soon and put them into a cohesive writing. > > I'll try to stick around and answer any questions if there are any. > > Rosner (trying to replace myth with fact:-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 i am glad you are back to better health, wqheerew did you get cryptolepsis from I cant find it anywhere?I will be happy to add a positive report on your book as well. thanksJan Rosner health update Posted by: "theskyking111" TheSkyKing@... theskyking111 Date: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:26 pm ((PDT))Hi all,I posted in December about a possible Babesia flareup that I was having. Since that time, lots of people have emailed me, called me, and approached me, asking me questions that indicated lots of rumors were flying around. Everything from "Oh my God, Rosner has relapsed!" to " Rosner may be dead!" LOL.In any case, I can understand the speculation, with my prominence in the Lyme community, I can see the need for me to be very clear about where I am currently at with my health. So, here's a short note to provide some clarity on what happened and where I'm at now.It turns out my issues were in fact Babesia. I had never had Babesia symptoms before, so it was new to me and frightening. Took me a few weeks to figure out what was going on. Finally, with use of a few Babesia herbs, I ended the flare up. What surprised me the most was how easy it was to suppress the Babesia; everyone says it is so hard to get rid of, but for me, about 3 weeks of herbs like Noni, cryptolepsis, Enula, etc., knocked it back / out. Not sure if all my years doing other therapies made this easier; perhaps there wasn't much infection left in my body. "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 http://www.woodlandessence.com/herbal.htm > > > > > i am glad you are back to better health, wqheerew did you get cryptolepsis from I cant find it anywhere?I will be happy to add a positive report on your book as well. thanks > > Jan > > > Rosner health update > Posted by: " theskyking111 " TheSkyKing@... theskyking111 > Date: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:26 pm ((PDT)) > > Hi all, > > I > posted in December about a possible Babesia flareup that I was having. > Since that time, lots of people have emailed me, called me, and > approached me, asking me questions that indicated lots of rumors were > flying around. Everything from " Oh my God, Rosner has relapsed! " > to " Rosner may be dead! " LOL. > > In any case, I can understand > the speculation, with my prominence in the Lyme community, I can see > the need for me to be very clear about where I am currently at with my > health. So, here's a short note to provide some clarity on what happened > and where I'm at now. > > It turns out my issues were in fact > Babesia. I had never had Babesia symptoms before, so it was new to me > and frightening. Took me a few weeks to figure out what was going on. > Finally, with use of a few Babesia herbs, I ended the flare up. What > surprised me the most was how easy it was to suppress the Babesia; > everyone says it is so hard to get rid of, but for me, about 3 weeks of > herbs like Noni, cryptolepsis, Enula, etc., knocked it back / out. Not > sure if all my years doing other therapies made this easier; perhaps > there wasn't much infection left in my body. > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Hi , I am very glad that you are finding the photon therapy helpful! I think it is awesome for detoxing. I have also used it with electromagnetically copied vials of gallstones and potentiated to 30x before a liver, gallbladder flush and had massive amounts of stones release. I am glad that you are past the most recent flair. Like you, I am about 90% back to my normal self and am proceeding with cautious optimism with regard to flare ups, as I know they can happen at any time. I also found the photon therapy very helpful for eradicating Mycoplasma. I had to get all the way to 5000x before I quit having symptoms. > > Hi all, > > I posted in December about a possible Babesia flareup that I was having. Since that time, lots of people have emailed me, called me, and approached me, asking me questions that indicated lots of rumors were flying around. Everything from " Oh my God, Rosner has relapsed! " to " Rosner may be dead! " LOL. > > In any case, I can understand the speculation, with my prominence in the Lyme community, I can see the need for me to be very clear about where I am currently at with my health. So, here's a short note to provide some clarity on what happened and where I'm at now. > > It turns out my issues were in fact Babesia. I had never had Babesia symptoms before, so it was new to me and frightening. Took me a few weeks to figure out what was going on. Finally, with use of a few Babesia herbs, I ended the flare up. What surprised me the most was how easy it was to suppress the Babesia; everyone says it is so hard to get rid of, but for me, about 3 weeks of herbs like Noni, cryptolepsis, Enula, etc., knocked it back / out. Not sure if all my years doing other therapies made this easier; perhaps there wasn't much infection left in my body. > > Anyway, here's the good news: As I wrote about in my Lyme/Rife book, and as Doug MacLean taught me, it seems that people can have mini-flareups even years after they are mostly symptom free. Doug mentioned that these mini-flareups are often just additional layers coming off the onion which is, in essence, a good thing. > > It just so happens that this is what I believe was going on. Now that I am past this event, I am feeling even better than ever, which is why I believe it was a layer coming off the onion. I would say I was around 90% before the event, and about 95% now. Going from 90% to 95% may not seem like much, but let me tell you, it is a lot when you are experiencing it. This is consistent with other times (mostly 5+ years ago) when layers were coming off the onion; especially during Spring and Fall, I used to notice flareups that felt like relapses but ultimately ended up being layers coming off and me getting closer to wellness. > > So this gives me even more confidence that the path I have been on is correct, albeit perhaps a longer, more winding road than any of us would like to take. > > I will say, though, I've learned A LOT over the last 4 months, thanks in large part to the wonderful, helpful people on the online groups. Several new pieces of information not found in my books but found in the Yahoo! groups really helped me through the rough spot and perhaps are even responsible for some of my additional gain to 95% well currently. In short, these would be MMS, the KPU protocol, various specialized Babesia herbs (alluded to above) biophotonic therapy, and additional chelation/metals removal, especially with the Cutler protocol I am so fond of. I'm keeping notes of the information I've learned but which doesn't appear in my books, so I can one day publish this information in a cohesive fashion to add to what I've already published. > > I have also realized a place or two where I now DISAGREE with what I wrote in my prior books. Not many places, just a sentence or two, here and there. One of the biggies was my hypothesis in the Lyme/Rife book that the body can heal itself on its own without supplements and outside support, once the bacteria are gone. My stance on this is now somewhat the opposite - I think the toxicity and dysfunction in our bodies are so advanced by the time we get Lyme disease that it may take years of supplementation and lifstyle adaptation and improvement to reverse the garbage pit conditions within our body in order to make the environment, or internal bio-terrain, again friendly to health. In fact, I believe our modern, industrialized society is so poisoned and non-healthy that even healthy, non-Lyme people can expect to become sick if they don't take drastic measures to clean up their lifestyle including but not limited to; eating organic, filtering water, avoiding plastics, supplementing deficient nutrients, etc. > > Therefore, I would love to write another book, or at least revise my books somewhat, as time allows. But that will come in time (right now I have two small children at home, and not a lot of free time!). I am human, and hence my writings of past, present, and future are imperfect, thus the need for revisions from time to time. Nevertheless, I still stand behind most of what I said in my books (probably 95% of what I said), and I still feel that information was the primary vehicle to my relative wellness, less a few details I've learned recently. > > But the real point of me posting this message is just to clarify and hopefully to stem some of the rumors taking place. > > So, in summary: > > MYTH: Lots of things about Rosner; dead, sick again, relapse, etc. > > FACT: Babesia flareup in late 2010 that lasted approximately 6 weeks, followed by usage of, and learning about, several new modalities. Peeling another layer off the onion. Presently feeling even better than before, at about 95%. Not 100% cured, but certainly not anywhere near the " myth " statuses I've been hearing about! Would like to put some of my new-found information and learning (thanks everyone for your selfless teaching and time with me!) into a book at some point. > > Please forgive any typos in this message; I don't have time to proof-read or polish this, just want to get it out there! Also, there may be a few things I'm missing in this posting; I did, however, keep copious notes through the event and hope to make sense of them soon and put them into a cohesive writing. > > I'll try to stick around and answer any questions if there are any. > > Rosner (trying to replace myth with fact:-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Hi Jan, Cryptolepsis is an herb that treats Mycoplasma and I have found it to be very effective. It is an herb that Buhner recommends. If you are treating Mycoplasma, I would also recommend trying Banderol by Nutramedix. > > > > > > > > > > i am glad you are back to better health, wqheerew did you get cryptolepsis from I cant find it anywhere?I will be happy to add a positive report on your book as well. thanks > > > > Jan > > > > > > Rosner health update > > Posted by: " theskyking111 " TheSkyKing@ theskyking111 > > Date: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:26 pm ((PDT)) > > > > Hi all, > > > > I > > posted in December about a possible Babesia flareup that I was having. > > Since that time, lots of people have emailed me, called me, and > > approached me, asking me questions that indicated lots of rumors were > > flying around. Everything from " Oh my God, Rosner has relapsed! " > > to " Rosner may be dead! " LOL. > > > > In any case, I can understand > > the speculation, with my prominence in the Lyme community, I can see > > the need for me to be very clear about where I am currently at with my > > health. So, here's a short note to provide some clarity on what happened > > and where I'm at now. > > > > It turns out my issues were in fact > > Babesia. I had never had Babesia symptoms before, so it was new to me > > and frightening. Took me a few weeks to figure out what was going on. > > Finally, with use of a few Babesia herbs, I ended the flare up. What > > surprised me the most was how easy it was to suppress the Babesia; > > everyone says it is so hard to get rid of, but for me, about 3 weeks of > > herbs like Noni, cryptolepsis, Enula, etc., knocked it back / out. Not > > sure if all my years doing other therapies made this easier; perhaps > > there wasn't much infection left in my body. > > > > > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Hi , Glad to hear you are recovered and at 95%!! And thanks for posting about continued supplement support even once one is well from Lyme.. I have always believed this had to be necessary, Lyme does some real damage and even though the pathogens are no more, the damages remain.. Lyme arthritis is one ailment that seems to take a long time to heal.. I don't think you should every worry (much) about the info in your books being 100%, humans make mistakes and your info is really PRIMO! Lyme Disease and Rife Machines is well written and well read by members of this group.. I recommend it in a welcome letter to all new members. Some tell me they have already read it. Take care of yourself, Jim > > Hi all, > > I posted in December about a possible Babesia flareup that I was having. Since that time, lots of people have emailed me, called me, and approached me, asking me questions that indicated lots of rumors were flying around. Everything from " Oh my God, Rosner has relapsed! " to " Rosner may be dead! " LOL. > > In any case, I can understand the speculation, with my prominence in the Lyme community, I can see the need for me to be very clear about where I am currently at with my health. So, here's a short note to provide some clarity on what happened and where I'm at now. > > It turns out my issues were in fact Babesia. I had never had Babesia symptoms before, so it was new to me and frightening. Took me a few weeks to figure out what was going on. Finally, with use of a few Babesia herbs, I ended the flare up. What surprised me the most was how easy it was to suppress the Babesia; everyone says it is so hard to get rid of, but for me, about 3 weeks of herbs like Noni, cryptolepsis, Enula, etc., knocked it back / out. Not sure if all my years doing other therapies made this easier; perhaps there wasn't much infection left in my body. > > Anyway, here's the good news: As I wrote about in my Lyme/Rife book, and as Doug MacLean taught me, it seems that people can have mini-flareups even years after they are mostly symptom free. Doug mentioned that these mini-flareups are often just additional layers coming off the onion which is, in essence, a good thing. > > It just so happens that this is what I believe was going on. Now that I am past this event, I am feeling even better than ever, which is why I believe it was a layer coming off the onion. I would say I was around 90% before the event, and about 95% now. Going from 90% to 95% may not seem like much, but let me tell you, it is a lot when you are experiencing it. This is consistent with other times (mostly 5+ years ago) when layers were coming off the onion; especially during Spring and Fall, I used to notice flareups that felt like relapses but ultimately ended up being layers coming off and me getting closer to wellness. > > So this gives me even more confidence that the path I have been on is correct, albeit perhaps a longer, more winding road than any of us would like to take. > > I will say, though, I've learned A LOT over the last 4 months, thanks in large part to the wonderful, helpful people on the online groups. Several new pieces of information not found in my books but found in the Yahoo! groups really helped me through the rough spot and perhaps are even responsible for some of my additional gain to 95% well currently. In short, these would be MMS, the KPU protocol, various specialized Babesia herbs (alluded to above) biophotonic therapy, and additional chelation/metals removal, especially with the Cutler protocol I am so fond of. I'm keeping notes of the information I've learned but which doesn't appear in my books, so I can one day publish this information in a cohesive fashion to add to what I've already published. > > I have also realized a place or two where I now DISAGREE with what I wrote in my prior books. Not many places, just a sentence or two, here and there. One of the biggies was my hypothesis in the Lyme/Rife book that the body can heal itself on its own without supplements and outside support, once the bacteria are gone. My stance on this is now somewhat the opposite - I think the toxicity and dysfunction in our bodies are so advanced by the time we get Lyme disease that it may take years of supplementation and lifstyle adaptation and improvement to reverse the garbage pit conditions within our body in order to make the environment, or internal bio-terrain, again friendly to health. In fact, I believe our modern, industrialized society is so poisoned and non-healthy that even healthy, non-Lyme people can expect to become sick if they don't take drastic measures to clean up their lifestyle including but not limited to; eating organic, filtering water, avoiding plastics, supplementing deficient nutrients, etc. > > Therefore, I would love to write another book, or at least revise my books somewhat, as time allows. But that will come in time (right now I have two small children at home, and not a lot of free time!). I am human, and hence my writings of past, present, and future are imperfect, thus the need for revisions from time to time. Nevertheless, I still stand behind most of what I said in my books (probably 95% of what I said), and I still feel that information was the primary vehicle to my relative wellness, less a few details I've learned recently. > > But the real point of me posting this message is just to clarify and hopefully to stem some of the rumors taking place. > > So, in summary: > > MYTH: Lots of things about Rosner; dead, sick again, relapse, etc. > > FACT: Babesia flareup in late 2010 that lasted approximately 6 weeks, followed by usage of, and learning about, several new modalities. Peeling another layer off the onion. Presently feeling even better than before, at about 95%. Not 100% cured, but certainly not anywhere near the " myth " statuses I've been hearing about! Would like to put some of my new-found information and learning (thanks everyone for your selfless teaching and time with me!) into a book at some point. > > Please forgive any typos in this message; I don't have time to proof-read or polish this, just want to get it out there! Also, there may be a few things I'm missing in this posting; I did, however, keep copious notes through the event and hope to make sense of them soon and put them into a cohesive writing. > > I'll try to stick around and answer any questions if there are any. > > Rosner (trying to replace myth with fact:-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Hello , You may be very busy May in case of you find the time to answer, may I ask you something if you heard of someone expeirience of the ANDI_ENERGETIC CORRECTOR please? Dct K. say that it cure a lyme in 11 cessions. As I am more or less stagnating with one second more of coil after 7 month due to heavy herx I am wondering if this would do . What i have tryed so far is countless. Thank you very much for everyhting you do for our community. Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 12:26:24 AMSubject: Rosner health update Hi all,I posted in December about a possible Babesia flareup that I was having. Since that time, lots of people have emailed me, called me, and approached me, asking me questions that indicated lots of rumors were flying around. Everything from "Oh my God, Rosner has relapsed!" to " Rosner may be dead!" LOL.In any case, I can understand the speculation, with my prominence in the Lyme community, I can see the need for me to be very clear about where I am currently at with my health. So, here's a short note to provide some clarity on what happened and where I'm at now.It turns out my issues were in fact Babesia. I had never had Babesia symptoms before, so it was new to me and frightening. Took me a few weeks to figure out what was going on. Finally, with use of a few Babesia herbs, I ended the flare up. What surprised me the most was how easy it was to suppress the Babesia; everyone says it is so hard to get rid of, but for me, about 3 weeks of herbs like Noni, cryptolepsis, Enula, etc., knocked it back / out. Not sure if all my years doing other therapies made this easier; perhaps there wasn't much infection left in my body.Anyway, here's the good news: As I wrote about in my Lyme/Rife book, and as Doug MacLean taught me, it seems that people can have mini-flareups even years after they are mostly symptom free. Doug mentioned that these mini-flareups are often just additional layers coming off the onion which is, in essence, a good thing.It just so happens that this is what I believe was going on. Now that I am past this event, I am feeling even better than ever, which is why I believe it was a layer coming off the onion. I would say I was around 90% before the event, and about 95% now. Going from 90% to 95% may not seem like much, but let me tell you, it is a lot when you are experiencing it. This is consistent with other times (mostly 5+ years ago) when layers were coming off the onion; especially during Spring and Fall, I used to notice flareups that felt like relapses but ultimately ended up being layers coming off and me getting closer to wellness.So this gives me even more confidence that the path I have been on is correct, albeit perhaps a longer, more winding road than any of us would like to take. I will say, though, I've learned A LOT over the last 4 months, thanks in large part to the wonderful, helpful people on the online groups. Several new pieces of information not found in my books but found in the Yahoo! groups really helped me through the rough spot and perhaps are even responsible for some of my additional gain to 95% well currently. In short, these would be MMS, the KPU protocol, various specialized Babesia herbs (alluded to above) biophotonic therapy, and additional chelation/metals removal, especially with the Cutler protocol I am so fond of. I'm keeping notes of the information I've learned but which doesn't appear in my books, so I can one day publish this information in a cohesive fashion to add to what I've already published.I have also realized a place or two where I now DISAGREE with what I wrote in my prior books. Not many places, just a sentence or two, here and there. One of the biggies was my hypothesis in the Lyme/Rife book that the body can heal itself on its own without supplements and outside support, once the bacteria are gone. My stance on this is now somewhat the opposite - I think the toxicity and dysfunction in our bodies are so advanced by the time we get Lyme disease that it may take years of supplementation and lifstyle adaptation and improvement to reverse the garbage pit conditions within our body in order to make the environment, or internal bio-terrain, again friendly to health. In fact, I believe our modern, industrialized society is so poisoned and non-healthy that even healthy, non-Lyme people can expect to become sick if they don't take drastic measures to clean up their lifestyle including but not limited to; eating organic, filtering water, avoiding plastics, supplementing deficient nutrients, etc.Therefore, I would love to write another book, or at least revise my books somewhat, as time allows. But that will come in time (right now I have two small children at home, and not a lot of free time!). I am human, and hence my writings of past, present, and future are imperfect, thus the need for revisions from time to time. Nevertheless, I still stand behind most of what I said in my books (probably 95% of what I said), and I still feel that information was the primary vehicle to my relative wellness, less a few details I've learned recently.But the real point of me posting this message is just to clarify and hopefully to stem some of the rumors taking place. So, in summary:MYTH: Lots of things about Rosner; dead, sick again, relapse, etc.FACT: Babesia flareup in late 2010 that lasted approximately 6 weeks, followed by usage of, and learning about, several new modalities. Peeling another layer off the onion. Presently feeling even better than before, at about 95%. Not 100% cured, but certainly not anywhere near the "myth" statuses I've been hearing about! Would like to put some of my new-found information and learning (thanks everyone for your selfless teaching and time with me!) into a book at some point.Please forgive any typos in this message; I don't have time to proof-read or polish this, just want to get it out there! Also, there may be a few things I'm missing in this posting; I did, however, keep copious notes through the event and hope to make sense of them soon and put them into a cohesive writing.I'll try to stick around and answer any questions if there are any. Rosner (trying to replace myth with fact:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Glad you're feeling better, . > > Hi all, > > I posted in December about a possible Babesia flareup that I was having. Since that time, lots of people have emailed me, called me, and approached me, asking me questions that indicated lots of rumors were flying around. Everything from " Oh my God, Rosner has relapsed! " to " Rosner may be dead! " LOL. > > In any case, I can understand the speculation, with my prominence in the Lyme community, I can see the need for me to be very clear about where I am currently at with my health. So, here's a short note to provide some clarity on what happened and where I'm at now. > > It turns out my issues were in fact Babesia. I had never had Babesia symptoms before, so it was new to me and frightening. Took me a few weeks to figure out what was going on. Finally, with use of a few Babesia herbs, I ended the flare up. What surprised me the most was how easy it was to suppress the Babesia; everyone says it is so hard to get rid of, but for me, about 3 weeks of herbs like Noni, cryptolepsis, Enula, etc., knocked it back / out. Not sure if all my years doing other therapies made this easier; perhaps there wasn't much infection left in my body. > > Anyway, here's the good news: As I wrote about in my Lyme/Rife book, and as Doug MacLean taught me, it seems that people can have mini-flareups even years after they are mostly symptom free. Doug mentioned that these mini-flareups are often just additional layers coming off the onion which is, in essence, a good thing. > > It just so happens that this is what I believe was going on. Now that I am past this event, I am feeling even better than ever, which is why I believe it was a layer coming off the onion. I would say I was around 90% before the event, and about 95% now. Going from 90% to 95% may not seem like much, but let me tell you, it is a lot when you are experiencing it. This is consistent with other times (mostly 5+ years ago) when layers were coming off the onion; especially during Spring and Fall, I used to notice flareups that felt like relapses but ultimately ended up being layers coming off and me getting closer to wellness. > > So this gives me even more confidence that the path I have been on is correct, albeit perhaps a longer, more winding road than any of us would like to take. > > I will say, though, I've learned A LOT over the last 4 months, thanks in large part to the wonderful, helpful people on the online groups. Several new pieces of information not found in my books but found in the Yahoo! groups really helped me through the rough spot and perhaps are even responsible for some of my additional gain to 95% well currently. In short, these would be MMS, the KPU protocol, various specialized Babesia herbs (alluded to above) biophotonic therapy, and additional chelation/metals removal, especially with the Cutler protocol I am so fond of. I'm keeping notes of the information I've learned but which doesn't appear in my books, so I can one day publish this information in a cohesive fashion to add to what I've already published. > > I have also realized a place or two where I now DISAGREE with what I wrote in my prior books. Not many places, just a sentence or two, here and there. One of the biggies was my hypothesis in the Lyme/Rife book that the body can heal itself on its own without supplements and outside support, once the bacteria are gone. My stance on this is now somewhat the opposite - I think the toxicity and dysfunction in our bodies are so advanced by the time we get Lyme disease that it may take years of supplementation and lifstyle adaptation and improvement to reverse the garbage pit conditions within our body in order to make the environment, or internal bio-terrain, again friendly to health. In fact, I believe our modern, industrialized society is so poisoned and non-healthy that even healthy, non-Lyme people can expect to become sick if they don't take drastic measures to clean up their lifestyle including but not limited to; eating organic, filtering water, avoiding plastics, supplementing deficient nutrients, etc. > > Therefore, I would love to write another book, or at least revise my books somewhat, as time allows. But that will come in time (right now I have two small children at home, and not a lot of free time!). I am human, and hence my writings of past, present, and future are imperfect, thus the need for revisions from time to time. Nevertheless, I still stand behind most of what I said in my books (probably 95% of what I said), and I still feel that information was the primary vehicle to my relative wellness, less a few details I've learned recently. > > But the real point of me posting this message is just to clarify and hopefully to stem some of the rumors taking place. > > So, in summary: > > MYTH: Lots of things about Rosner; dead, sick again, relapse, etc. > > FACT: Babesia flareup in late 2010 that lasted approximately 6 weeks, followed by usage of, and learning about, several new modalities. Peeling another layer off the onion. Presently feeling even better than before, at about 95%. Not 100% cured, but certainly not anywhere near the " myth " statuses I've been hearing about! Would like to put some of my new-found information and learning (thanks everyone for your selfless teaching and time with me!) into a book at some point. > > Please forgive any typos in this message; I don't have time to proof-read or polish this, just want to get it out there! Also, there may be a few things I'm missing in this posting; I did, however, keep copious notes through the event and hope to make sense of them soon and put them into a cohesive writing. > > I'll try to stick around and answer any questions if there are any. > > Rosner (trying to replace myth with fact:-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Hi , I am thrilled for you that you are feeling well again. Your emai addy sounds so familiar to me. I was very involved with Lyme groups in 1998-2003. Anyway I want to thank you for your book. I found out about it thru a friend of my daughter's and she has rifed for 7 months and feels about 80 percent better. So with my hubby and son still ill with bartonella, erhlichosis (sp?) my other son may build the machine. And possibly build some for others. Will see how it works. Many thanks for you hard work and especially your sharing. Special Regards, Debi Procaccini in CT > > Hi all, > > I posted in December about a possible Babesia flareup that I was having. Since that time, lots of people have emailed me, called me, and approached me, asking me questions that indicated lots of rumors were flying around. Everything from " Oh my God, Rosner has relapsed! " to " Rosner may be dead! " LOL. > > In any case, I can understand the speculation, with my prominence in the Lyme community, I can see the need for me to be very clear about where I am currently at with my health. So, here's a short note to provide some clarity on what happened and where I'm at now. > > It turns out my issues were in fact Babesia. I had never had Babesia symptoms before, so it was new to me and frightening. Took me a few weeks to figure out what was going on. Finally, with use of a few Babesia herbs, I ended the flare up. What surprised me the most was how easy it was to suppress the Babesia; everyone says it is so hard to get rid of, but for me, about 3 weeks of herbs like Noni, cryptolepsis, Enula, etc., knocked it back / out. Not sure if all my years doing other therapies made this easier; perhaps there wasn't much infection left in my body. > > Anyway, here's the good news: As I wrote about in my Lyme/Rife book, and as Doug MacLean taught me, it seems that people can have mini-flareups even years after they are mostly symptom free. Doug mentioned that these mini-flareups are often just additional layers coming off the onion which is, in essence, a good thing. > > It just so happens that this is what I believe was going on. Now that I am past this event, I am feeling even better than ever, which is why I believe it was a layer coming off the onion. I would say I was around 90% before the event, and about 95% now. Going from 90% to 95% may not seem like much, but let me tell you, it is a lot when you are experiencing it. This is consistent with other times (mostly 5+ years ago) when layers were coming off the onion; especially during Spring and Fall, I used to notice flareups that felt like relapses but ultimately ended up being layers coming off and me getting closer to wellness. > > So this gives me even more confidence that the path I have been on is correct, albeit perhaps a longer, more winding road than any of us would like to take. > > I will say, though, I've learned A LOT over the last 4 months, thanks in large part to the wonderful, helpful people on the online groups. Several new pieces of information not found in my books but found in the Yahoo! groups really helped me through the rough spot and perhaps are even responsible for some of my additional gain to 95% well currently. In short, these would be MMS, the KPU protocol, various specialized Babesia herbs (alluded to above) biophotonic therapy, and additional chelation/metals removal, especially with the Cutler protocol I am so fond of. I'm keeping notes of the information I've learned but which doesn't appear in my books, so I can one day publish this information in a cohesive fashion to add to what I've already published. > > I have also realized a place or two where I now DISAGREE with what I wrote in my prior books. Not many places, just a sentence or two, here and there. One of the biggies was my hypothesis in the Lyme/Rife book that the body can heal itself on its own without supplements and outside support, once the bacteria are gone. My stance on this is now somewhat the opposite - I think the toxicity and dysfunction in our bodies are so advanced by the time we get Lyme disease that it may take years of supplementation and lifstyle adaptation and improvement to reverse the garbage pit conditions within our body in order to make the environment, or internal bio-terrain, again friendly to health. In fact, I believe our modern, industrialized society is so poisoned and non-healthy that even healthy, non-Lyme people can expect to become sick if they don't take drastic measures to clean up their lifestyle including but not limited to; eating organic, filtering water, avoiding plastics, supplementing deficient nutrients, etc. > > Therefore, I would love to write another book, or at least revise my books somewhat, as time allows. But that will come in time (right now I have two small children at home, and not a lot of free time!). I am human, and hence my writings of past, present, and future are imperfect, thus the need for revisions from time to time. Nevertheless, I still stand behind most of what I said in my books (probably 95% of what I said), and I still feel that information was the primary vehicle to my relative wellness, less a few details I've learned recently. > > But the real point of me posting this message is just to clarify and hopefully to stem some of the rumors taking place. > > So, in summary: > > MYTH: Lots of things about Rosner; dead, sick again, relapse, etc. > > FACT: Babesia flareup in late 2010 that lasted approximately 6 weeks, followed by usage of, and learning about, several new modalities. Peeling another layer off the onion. Presently feeling even better than before, at about 95%. Not 100% cured, but certainly not anywhere near the " myth " statuses I've been hearing about! Would like to put some of my new-found information and learning (thanks everyone for your selfless teaching and time with me!) into a book at some point. > > Please forgive any typos in this message; I don't have time to proof-read or polish this, just want to get it out there! Also, there may be a few things I'm missing in this posting; I did, however, keep copious notes through the event and hope to make sense of them soon and put them into a cohesive writing. > > I'll try to stick around and answer any questions if there are any. > > Rosner (trying to replace myth with fact:-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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