Re: what's considered tachycardia

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The standard definition of tachycardia is 100 or more beats per minute; Of

course, each of us has our own usual pulse rate and if the pulse is below

100, but still higher than normal for you given your normal pulse rate

pattern, that could be considered tachycardia for you; But normally, the

standard definition is 100 beats per minute;

what's considered " tachycardia "

> for the last 14 months on amiodarone my pulse has been nice and slow,

> rarely going above 60 (when I first started on the amidarone it was

> in the low 40s at time! lowest was 38...) anyway, now that I'm off

> the drug for a couple of weeks it seems like my pulse shoots up at

> the slightest provocation and it seems to be getting worse.

>

> I climb a short flight of stairs which two weeks ago wouldn't have

> raised my pulse a beat and not it goes up to 100 or above.

>

> I will ask my doctor about this, but at what point is the heartbeat

> considered to be " tachycardia " . With the afib my heart reminds me of

> an old Nissan Sentra I had with a bad clutch... sometimes with just

> light pressure it just spins out of control and doesn't generate any

> power.

>

> Any info on this?

>

> Tks,

> Jim

>

>

>

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> for the last 14 months on amiodarone my pulse has been nice and

slow,

> rarely going above 60 (when I first started on the amidarone it was

> in the low 40s at time! lowest was 38...) anyway, now that I'm off

> the drug for a couple of weeks it seems like my pulse shoots up at

> the slightest provocation and it seems to be getting worse.

>

> I climb a short flight of stairs which two weeks ago wouldn't have

> raised my pulse a beat and not it goes up to 100 or above.

>

> I will ask my doctor about this, but at what point is the heartbeat

> considered to be " tachycardia>

> Tks,

> Jim

Jim, I happened to be watching tv in the wee hours the other night

and some anatomy class was on. They said, if I recall correctly

tachy was > 100, and bracy was < 60. I also had my pulse shooting up

at the slightest provocation. My beta blocker, toprol xl, has

reduced that effect a great deal, as my doc said it would.

[Guest guest]

I had a similar experience with rythmol but overcame the sudden rate

increases by taking a daily dash of atenolol (25mg). I am now on

atenolol only and rate stays in the 50's. You may want to discuss

this with your cardiologist.

Greg

> for the last 14 months on amiodarone my pulse has been nice and

slow,

> rarely going above 60 (when I first started on the amidarone it was

> in the low 40s at time! lowest was 38...) anyway, now that I'm off

> the drug for a couple of weeks it seems like my pulse shoots up at

> the slightest provocation and it seems to be getting worse.

>

> I climb a short flight of stairs which two weeks ago wouldn't have

> raised my pulse a beat and not it goes up to 100 or above.

>

> I will ask my doctor about this, but at what point is the heartbeat

> considered to be " tachycardia " . With the afib my heart reminds me

of

> an old Nissan Sentra I had with a bad clutch... sometimes with just

> light pressure it just spins out of control and doesn't generate

any

> power.

>

> Any info on this?

>

> Tks,

> Jim

[Guest guest]

toprol xl is a drug that my cardiologist wanted to switch me to from

Atenolol, he felt it might be better for me... I took it one time but

started to get dizzy and decided to just stick with my atenolol...

but I'm thinking that maybe I should give it another chance.

At home in Maui I have an HMO (Kaiser) but I work 2 weeks a month for

a dot.com in Silicon Valley and now have additional insurance so I'm

going to go in and get checked out by the electrophysiologists and

cardiologists at STanford University so I REALLY excited about that!

Anyway, thanks for the feedback... this group is great!

Jim

>

> Jim, I happened to be watching tv in the wee hours the other night

> and some anatomy class was on. They said, if I recall correctly

> tachy was > 100, and bracy was < 60. I also had my pulse shooting

up

> at the slightest provocation. My beta blocker, toprol xl, has

> reduced that effect a great deal, as my doc said it would.

[Guest guest]

According to the Clinical Pharmacology website, toprol xl (Lopressor)

and atenolol are similar beta blockers. My experience has been that

atenolol takes effect within about an hour and lasts for 24 hours. I

have not noticed any side effects.

I am interested in the theory that one can consciously prevent the

onslaught of a/fib or even perhaps convert from a/fib to s/r. I am

not aware of any scientific evidence of this and my cardiologists say

that you have no conscious control over this condition. I certainly

wish that we did! I have alway understood that the underlying

triggers of a/fib, be they vagal or adreneric in origin, are

incapable of conscious control. Something like gritting your teeth,

bearing down or some physical action does, on occasion, have some

effect. Indeed, some doctors still believe that massaging the

carotid artery will terminate a/fib. While these techniques work for

some, having been through a number of cardioversions, needless to

say, I am not a believer in them.

Greg---

In AFIBsupportegroups, " " <brmorgan@v...> wrote:

> Are you sure? Topol (toprol?) usually refers to Lopressor

(Metoprolol

> Tartrate) or some variant on Metoprolol (Me, toe, pro, lol);

> Attenolol goes by the brand name of TENORMIN;

>

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> Re: Re: what's considered " tachycardia "

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> > topol and atenol both beta blockers, same med. Dr fred

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> Toprol is very similar to Lopressor, which is what I take; Both are

> variations on Metoprolol Tartrate and are different medications than

> atenolol; Both are cardioselective beta blockers with fewer side

effects

> than Inderal, but Toprol has a quicker time to reach peak plasma

blood

> levels. It also has a shorter half life than atenolol;

> You might try to take half the recommended dosage, and ease into

the toprol;

> I found that the first few weeks of taking Lopressor took some

adjustment,

> but eventually, I found Metoprolol (ie toprol) to be a good

medication; The

> side effects are usually mild and transient.

My brother takes toprol for high blood pressure. He told me he had

previously been on lopressor, but " likes toprol better. " I didn't

ask him why. I notice no side effects from the toprol, but I have

been having some trouble with insomnia lately and am feeling somewhat

bummed out. Whether the latter is a side effect or due to the

delight of finding out I have afib, I dunno :-) I seem to be able to

do away with the insomnia by taking a 1/2 tranquilizer before bedtime.

What is the half life of toprol? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

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>

> At home in Maui I have an HMO (Kaiser) but I work 2 weeks a month

for

> a dot.com in Silicon Valley and now have additional insurance so

I'm

> going to go in and get checked out by the electrophysiologists and

> cardiologists at STanford University so I REALLY excited about that!

>

Jim, I am near Stanford and would be interested in trading

experiences with specific docs with you, which we should probably do

offline. My email address is trudyjh at aol.com