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I have been taking flecainide, and am satisfied with it. I was not placed in

the hospital when I started it. I was in chronic afib, and my doc gave me

flecainide three days in advance of a planned DC cardioversion. The Tambocor

was to pre-load me before the cardioversion with the hopes that I would stay

in NSR, or better yet, revert on my own with the help of the flecainide

before the cardioversion.

A couple of weeks before that cardioversion, I had my first cardioversion

while on Coumadin and Verapamil. I stayed in NSR only a few days. Before

that I had been in constant afib for what I believe was many years.

As far as aspirin versus Coumadin, in my case it was used for three days

prior to a DC cardioversion to dissolve any clots that might be present. I

have read in the literature that aspirin can be effective, but if I was

looking at a situation where I had been fibbing for many days, and they

wanted to cardiovert, I would feel more comfortable with Coumadin.

I have been afib free with flecainide for over three years now (except for

one episode of a few hours around once a year), and I was taken off of

Coumadin after I was in NSR. I do take an aspirin daily however.

I have heard of some people going on flecainide while hospitalized. Lets do

a poll and find out. All should receive a poll notice in a few minutes!

Flecainide

Has anyone out there been treated with Flecainide? What is your experience

with it? Was treatment initiated in the hospital during an episode of afib?

The treatment was suggested to me today after a long conversation and exam

by a new (to me) cardiologist, who gave the diagnosis of " vagally-mediated

paroxysmal atrial fibrillation. " He told me to stop taking the beta blocker

(Inderal) immediately, saying that beta blockers have been found to actually

make vagally mediated afib worse, and suggested that I could be helped by

taking Flecainide which would be introduced at the next onset of Afib in the

hospital, should I decide to go that route. He also left it up to me to

decide whether to continue with an aspirin a day (160mg) or to start

Coumadin.

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P. Raichel wrote

>The treatment was suggested to me today after a long conversation and exam

>by a new (to me) cardiologist, who gave the diagnosis of " vagally-mediated

>paroxysmal atrial fibrillation. " He told me to stop taking the beta blocker

>(Inderal) immediately, saying that beta blockers have been found to actually

>make vagally mediated afib worse, and suggested that I could be helped by

>taking Flecainide which would be introduced at the next onset of Afib in the

>hospital, should I decide to go that route.

What !? Another thread said a _Doctor_ had suggested Mg might be of use

in arrythmias, and now a _Cardiologist_ has diagnosed VMPAF !!!

It must be Christmas.

Anyway, good on him - maybe the word is spreading.

> He also left it up to me to

>decide whether to continue with an aspirin a day (160mg) or to start

>Coumadin.

Is Coumadin an anti-coagulant? Although we don't see eye to eye on my

VMPAF, I think we do agree that aspirin (75 mg/day) is a good

precaution. The risk period apparently is coming _out_ of an AF attack

- the blood that has pooled in the heart and may therefore have started

forming clots is then ejected back around the body as the heart starts

using all its volume again, hence that's when the thrombosis risk

occurs.

Anyhow - will have some updates shortly - promise to get to them when I

can finish all this /work/ ;-( but a reminder in the meantime :

http://www.vagalafibportal.fsnet.co.uk/ and click on the FAQ page

I saw a posting a while back saying there were a few subjective aspects

to my FAQ page, and so there are, but I will take these on board and

make a few changes when I get to it.

--

Best of health to all

Vicky

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In article <001201c06ae4$34976a40$28b052a6@svientos>, P. Raichel

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>Has anyone out there been treated with Flecainide?

Flec has been the choice drug for me fro 4 years now - but I have never

been sure whether it has worked. I think my overall conclusion is it

works (for me) at small doses but only when my gastric problems are not

causing too much vagal stimulation - when it appears _nothing_ can stop

the AF, except gastric relief !

I am also sure that Flec at high doses makes the AF worse - a feeling

that my heart is " not mine " and has a life of its own - pro-arrhythmia

is a known side-effect of most anti-arrhythmics, and Flec is no

different.

I believe starting it in hospital is no longer de rigeur, except maybe

for high doses and of course intravenous pharamacological conversion by

IV Felc.

--

Best of health to all

Vicky

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>Has anyone out there been treated with Flecainide? What is your experience

>with it? Was treatment initiated in the hospital during an episode of afib?

>The treatment was suggested to me today after a long conversation and exam

>by a new (to me) cardiologist, who gave the diagnosis of " vagally-mediated

>paroxysmal atrial fibrillation. " He told me to stop taking the beta blocker

>(Inderal) immediately, saying that beta blockers have been found to actually

>make vagally mediated afib worse, and suggested that I could be helped by

>taking Flecainide which would be introduced at the next onset of Afib in the

>hospital, should I decide to go that route. He also left it up to me to

>decide whether to continue with an aspirin a day (160mg) or to start

>Coumadin.

Hi Sandy - your cardiologist sounds interesting!

In the early days when I was hospitalized with AF they tried IV flecainide to

try to restore my sinus rhythm. I also went on to flecainide tablets, for about

2-3 months I think, but it didn't seem to work for me. I'm not sure whether it

was flecainide of propafanone which gave me atrial flutter but which ever it was

I stopped having flutter when I came off the drug. If I were in your shoes I'd

give it a try - if it doesn't work you can always come of it and you

cardiologist sounds like he knows his stuff.

I'm only taking 75 mg of aspirin a day - I'm reluctant to go to warfarin

(coumadin) since I have this image of getting back to an active lifestyle! I

bruise pretty easily just on the aspirin and I think I just have to many knocks

in my life to be confident taking warfarin.

wishing you every success.

--

D

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In a message dated 12/20/00 7:27:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,

vientos@... writes:

> Has anyone out there been treated with Flecainide? What is your experience

> with it? Was treatment initiated in the hospital during an episode of afib?

> The treatment was suggested to me today after a long conversation and exam

> by a new (to me) cardiologist, who gave the diagnosis of " vagally-mediated

> paroxysmal atrial fibrillation. " He told me to stop taking the beta blocker

> (Inderal) immediately, saying that beta blockers have been found to actually

> make vagally mediated afib worse, and suggested that I could be helped by

> taking Flecainide which would be introduced at the next onset of Afib in the

> hospital, should I decide to go that route. He also left it up to me to

> decide whether to continue with an aspirin a day (160mg) or to start

> Coumadin.

>

>

>

>

>

I also started Flecainide in the hospital during an episode of AF. I was

given 300 mg. and converted within an hour. This enabled my doctor to

observe whether the drug was lengthening my QT interval or whether I was

otherwise having an adverse reaction. I was let out after a few hours. I

also have vagally mediated PAF. Fortunately I have not had to take any

flecainide for the past 6 months.

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