Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

[Guest guest]

Oh don't I know since my son is sensitive to additives, preservatives & food

colors I have a hard time finding supplements and the ones he can take are not

cheap. I hear great things about Kirkmans but so many of there supplements

contain the Magnesium Stearate so I haven't tried theres yet. Atleast Houston

Enzymes give out samples so you can try them first. I have to return so many

things due to reactions that I don't like to order online unless I am sure.

Anyways the Zinc is from Eidon Minerals have you ever heard of them? Oh and as

I said the Zinc did make my son hyper but a feeling good hyper and once I

lowered the dose it did get better. Then I was listening to one of those Great

Planes Lab. Webinars done by a Dr. K. Stoller and asked him about this and

he said I should stop giving it. So I started wondering again. Here to it

seems to help if I alternate these things so too much does not build up.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and

one

> >link

> >

> > > >

> > > > > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I

> >know

> >

> > > > > >you've

> > > > > >

> > > > > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician.

> >Just so

> >

> > > >

> > > > >he

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > knows you've done your research

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals

> >ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'‹Å " ÃÆ'‚º

> > > > > >

> > >

>

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> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>

> > > > > > To: miralax

> > > > > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> > > > > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ

> > > > > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was

not

> >the

> >

> > >

> > > > >Dr.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to

> >say.

> >

> > > > >First

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's

are

> > > >getting

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my

> > > > >interpretation.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and

that

> >a

> >

> > > > >stool

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will

> >have

> >

> > > > >yeast

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I

told

> >him

> >

> > > >of

> > > >

> > > > >my

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it

> >isn't

> >

> > >

> > > > > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we

had

> >

> > > > >waited

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons

> >abdomen I

> >

> > > >

> > > > > >went

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is

really

> >

> > > > >backed

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I

told

> >her

> >

> > > >

> > > > > >that

> > > > > >

> > > > > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr.

mentioned

> >was

> >

> > > >my

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me

> >right

> >

> > > > >back

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax.

> >She

> >

> > > > >hasn't

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just

irritated

> >me

> >

> > > > >since

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons

tics

> >to

> >

> > >

> > > > > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of

constipation

> > > >relief

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for

> >letting

> >

> > > >me

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > vent.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Call them and tell them that he reacts this way, they have a Pharmacy, maybe they'll send you a trial size or you could ask about the reaction to see if stearate causes this kind of reaction. They are pretty helpful. I'm wondering how many other things have stearate in them so you could rule that out.

To: miralax Sent: Sun, August 28, 2011 12:52:49 PMSubject: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

Oh don't I know since my son is sensitive to additives, preservatives & food colors I have a hard time finding supplements and the ones he can take are not cheap. I hear great things about Kirkmans but so many of there supplements contain the Magnesium Stearate so I haven't tried theres yet. Atleast Houston Enzymes give out samples so you can try them first. I have to return so many things due to reactions that I don't like to order online unless I am sure. Anyways the Zinc is from Eidon Minerals have you ever heard of them? Oh and as I said the Zinc did make my son hyper but a feeling good hyper and once I lowered the dose it did get better. Then I was listening to one of those Great Planes Lab. Webinars done by a Dr. K. Stoller and asked him about this and he said I should stop giving it. So I started wondering again. Here to it seems to help if I alternate these things so too much does not build up. > > > > >

>> > > > > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one > >link > >> > > >> > > > > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I > >know > >> > > > > >you've > > > > > >> > > > > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. > >Just so > >> > > >> > > > >he > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > knows you've done your research> > > > > > > > > > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals > >ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'‹Å"ÃÆ'‚º> > > > > >

> > > > >>>>http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdfÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ> > > > > >Â > > > > >ÂÂ > > > > > >ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > >

> From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>> > > > > > To: miralax > > > > > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM> > > > > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ > > > > > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not > >the > >> > > > > > > >Dr. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to > >say. > >> > > > >First > > > >

>> > > > > >> > > > > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are > > > >getting > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my > > > > >interpretation. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that > >a > >> > > > >stool > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will > >have > >> > > > >yeast > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I

told > >him > >> > > >of > > > >> > > > >my > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it > >isn't > >> > > > > > > > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had > >> > > > >waited > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons > >abdomen I > >> > > >> > > > > >went > > > > > >> > > > > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really > >> > > > >backed > > > > >> >

> > > > > > > > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told > >her > >> > > >> > > > > >that > > > > > >> > > > > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned > >was > >> > > >my > > > >> > > > > > > > > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me > >right > >> > > > >back > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. > >She > >> > > > >hasn't > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > called back. So I am

wondering what he will say now. It just irritated > >me > >> > > > >since > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics > >to > >> > > > > > > > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation > > > >relief > > > >> > > > > > > > > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for > >letting > >> > > >me > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > vent.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

They do have trial sizes but you have to pay for them plus shipping and

handling.

Not sure what you meant by " how may other things have stearate in them " .

What it seems to me with the Mag. Stearate is that alot of these magnesium can

come from different places, like beef and chocolate are natural sources from

what I have read. Anyways most of what I have found is that if they do not get

it from the vegetable source then he reacts to it. But I am still unsure of

trying more than one supplement that he will take regularly with even the

vegetable magnesium stearate in it since he seems to build things up quickly

and he takes the Melatonin daily and does do well on it. Does that make sense.

LOL. I have tried so many supplements that I am very careful now.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and

> >one

> >

> > >link

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself.

I

>

> > >know

> > >

> > > > > > >you've

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this

Physician.

> > >Just so

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >he

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > knows you've done your research

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals

> >

>ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'‹ÃÆ'… " ÃÆ'Æ'âÃ\

¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚º

> > > > > > >

> > > >

>

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> > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>

> > > > > > > To: miralax

> > > > > > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> > > > > > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was

> >not

> >

> > >the

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > >Dr.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had

to

>

> > >say.

> > >

> > > > > >First

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's

are

> >

> > > > >getting

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my

> > > > > >interpretation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and

> >that

> >

> > >a

> > >

> > > > > >stool

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone

will

> > >have

> > >

> > > > > >yeast

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I

told

> >

> > >him

> > >

> > > > >of

> > > > >

> > > > > >my

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that

it

>

> > >isn't

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But

we

> >had

> >

> > >

> > > > > >waited

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons

> > >abdomen I

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >went

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is

> >really

> >

> > >

> > > > > >backed

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I

> >told

> >

> > >her

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >that

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr.

mentioned

> >

> > >was

> > >

> > > > >my

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call

me

> > >right

> > >

> > > > > >back

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on

Miralax.

>

> > >She

> > >

> > > > > >hasn't

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just

> >irritated

> >

> > >me

> > >

> > > > > >since

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons

> >tics

> >

> > >to

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of

constipation

> >

> > > > >relief

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for

> > >letting

> > >

> > > > >me

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > vent.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I was meaning if there was mag stearate in other things he eats in his diet, then you would know its not the stearate. I never realized that they get magnesium from different sources. I'm learining a lot on the low oxalate board about how people / kids react so strangely to foods. My dd used to react big time to corn. Especially on Wednesday's after nachos. We did a naet treatment and believe it or not, it helped? She doesn't react to corn like she used to and it was only one treatment.

One has to do extensive research when they have a child that reacts to "where" the magnesium came from. Sorry for your situation. Sorry, I couldn't be of much help

To: miralax Sent: Sun, August 28, 2011 6:20:20 PMSubject: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

They do have trial sizes but you have to pay for them plus shipping and handling. Not sure what you meant by "how may other things have stearate in them". What it seems to me with the Mag. Stearate is that alot of these magnesium can come from different places, like beef and chocolate are natural sources from what I have read. Anyways most of what I have found is that if they do not get it from the vegetable source then he reacts to it. But I am still unsure of trying more than one supplement that he will take regularly with even the vegetable magnesium stearate in it since he seems to build things up quickly and he takes the Melatonin daily and does do well on it. Does that make sense. LOL. I have tried so many supplements that I am very careful now. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and > >one > >> > >link > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I > > > >know > > >> > > > > > >you've > > > > > > >> > > > > > >

seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. > > >Just so > > >> > > > >> > > > > >he > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > knows you've done your research> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals > > >ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'‹ÃÆ'…"ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚º> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdfÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â> >‚> > > > > > > > > > > > > >ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > >ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>> > > > > > > To: miralax > > > > > > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM> > > > > > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was >

>not > >> > >the > > >> > > > > > > > > >Dr. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to > > > >say. > > >> > > > > >First > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are > >> > > > >getting > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my > > > > > >interpretation. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL. He says that you cannot test

for intestinal permeability and > >that > >> > >a > > >> > > > > >stool > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will > > >have > > >> > > > > >yeast > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told > >> > >him > > >> > > > >of > > > > >> > > > > >my > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it > > > >isn't > > >> > >

> > > > > > > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we > >had > >> > >> > > > > >waited > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons > > >abdomen I > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >went > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is > >really > >> > >> > > > > >backed > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I > >told > >> > >her > >

>> > > > >> > > > > > >that > > > > > > >> > > > > > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned > >> > >was > > >> > > > >my > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me > > >right > > >> > > > > >back > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. > > > >She > > >> > > > > >hasn't > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > called back. So I am wondering what he will

say now. It just > >irritated > >> > >me > > >> > > > > >since > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons > >tics > >> > >to > > >> > > > > > > > > > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation > >> > > > >relief > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for > > >letting > > >> > > > >me > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > vent.> > > > > > >> > > >

> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

First, what is naet treatment? My son seems also reacts to corn more so the

processed corn like chips etc than just corn. But of course he loves it too.

He will crave some of the things he reacts to. Plus corn is in sooo many

things. I found even a prescription nasal spray to have a form of it in it.

They overuse these things as we have discussed on this board before.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments

and

>

> > >one

> > >

> > > >link

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken

myself.

> >I

> >

> >

> > > >know

> > > >

> > > > > > > >you've

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this

Physician.

> >

> > > >Just so

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >he

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > knows you've done your research

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals

> > >

>

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> > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>

> > > > > > > > To: miralax

> > > > > > > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> > > > > > > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

>

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> > > > > > > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he

was

>

> > >not

> > >

> > > >the

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >Dr.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he

had

> >to

> >

> >

> > > >say.

> > > >

> > > > > > >First

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with

ASD's

> >are

> >

> > >

> > > > > >getting

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my

> > > > > > >interpretation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability

and

> > >that

> > >

> > > >a

> > > >

> > > > > > >stool

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone

will

> >

> > > >have

> > > >

> > > > > > >yeast

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I

> >told

> >

> > >

> > > >him

> > > >

> > > > > >of

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >my

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says

that

> >it

> >

> >

> > > >isn't

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But

we

> >

> > >had

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > > >waited

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my

sons

> > > >abdomen I

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >went

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is

> > >really

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > > >backed

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course.

I

>

> > >told

> > >

> > > >her

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >that

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr.

> >mentioned

> >

> > >

> > > >was

> > > >

> > > > > >my

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call

me

> >

> > > >right

> > > >

> > > > > > >back

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on

> >Miralax.

> >

> >

> > > >She

> > > >

> > > > > > >hasn't

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just

> > >irritated

> > >

> > > >me

> > > >

> > > > > > >since

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my

sons

>

> > >tics

> > >

> > > >to

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of

> >constipation

> >

> > >

> > > > > >relief

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks

for

>

> > > >letting

> > > >

> > > > > >me

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vent.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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http://www.naet.com/ Only Chiro's trained in NAET can do this. They infuse a vial of water with "What" you are sensitive to, they put a few drops of this water under your tounge and tape a vial to your leg............sounds hokey but believe me, it works. She no longer turns into the tazmanian devil after corn. LOL! I will tell you that the behavior that came after this treatment made me rip the vial off her leg before I was suppose to, she definitely reacted. But it did improve,,,,I just got scared after what I was witnessing and took it off.

To: miralax Sent: Tue, August 30, 2011 10:43:06 AMSubject: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

First, what is naet treatment? My son seems also reacts to corn more so the processed corn like chips etc than just corn. But of course he loves it too. He will crave some of the things he reacts to. Plus corn is in sooo many things. I found even a prescription nasal spray to have a form of it in it. They overuse these things as we have discussed on this board before. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and > > > >one > > >> > > >link >

> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. > >I > >> > > > > >know > > > >> > > > > > > >you've > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. > >> > > >Just so > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >he > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > knows you've done your research> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals > > > >

>>ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¹ÃÆ'Æ'…"ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚º> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdfÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> >Å¡> > >‚> > > > > > > > > >ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > >ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > >ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> >Å¡> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > > > From: luckymom2one

<pellomelissa@>> > > > > > > > To: miralax > > > > > > > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM> > > > > > > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > > > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he

was > > > >not > > >> > > >the > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >Dr. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had > >to > >> > > > > >say. > > > >> > > > > > >First > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's > >are > >> > >> > > > > >getting > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my >

> > > > > >interpretation. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and > > >that > > >> > > >a > > > >> > > > > > >stool > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will > >> > > >have > > > >> > > > > > >yeast > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I > >told > >> > >> > > >him > > > >> > >

> > >of > > > > > >> > > > > > >my > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that > >it > >> > > > > >isn't > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we > >> > >had > > >> > > >> > > > > > >waited > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons > > > >abdomen I > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >went

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is > > >really > > >> > > >> > > > > > >backed > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I > > > >told > > >> > > >her > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >that > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. > >mentioned > >> > >> > > >was > > > >> > > > > >my > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me > >> > > >right > > > >> > > > > > >back > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on > >Miralax. > >> > > > > >She > > > >> > > > > > >hasn't > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just > > >irritated > > >> > > >me > > > >> > > > > > >since > > > > > > >> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons > > > >tics > > >> > > >to > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of > >constipation > >> > >> > > > > >relief > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for > > > > >letting > > > >> > > > > >me > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > vent.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >

> > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Actually chiros *and* acupuncturists trained in NAET can do it. Just a minor clarification. Acupuncturists, depending on their training, are very good at treating allergies and auto-immune conditions. Not every one, of course. Just my two cents as an Acu. In CA, acupuncturists are primary health care providers, so our scope of practice is much broader. In other states, it is more limited. So it depends on who you see, and where they live.Oh and I don't do NAET. So I'm not chiming in to get a referral or anything. I treat allergies in other ways. But just wanted to let folks know there are more people out there, and you can certainly look on the website for

folks in your area.Best wishesMeadowTo: miralax Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 6:13 PMSubject: Re: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

http://www.naet.com/ Only Chiro's trained in NAET can do this. They infuse a vial of water with "What" you are sensitive to, they put a few drops of this water under your tounge and tape a vial to your leg............sounds hokey but believe me, it works. She no longer turns into the tazmanian devil after corn. LOL! I will tell you that the behavior that came after this treatment made me rip the vial off her leg before I was suppose to, she definitely reacted. But it did improve,,,,I just got scared after what I was witnessing and took it off.

To: miralax Sent: Tue, August 30, 2011 10:43:06 AMSubject: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

First, what is naet treatment? My son seems also reacts to corn more so the processed corn like chips etc than just corn. But of course he loves it too. He will crave some of the things he reacts to. Plus corn is in sooo many things. I found even a prescription nasal spray to have a form of it in it. They overuse these things as we have discussed on this board before. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and > > > >one > > >> > > >link

>

> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. > >I > >> > > > > >know > > > >> > > > > > > >you've > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. > >> > > >Just so > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >he > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > knows you've done your research> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals > > > >

>>ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¹ÃÆ'Æ'…"ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚º> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdfÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> >Å¡> > >‚> > > > > > > > > >ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > >ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > >

>ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> >Å¡> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > > > From: luckymom2one

<pellomelissa@>> > > > > > > > To: miralax > > > > > > > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM> > > > > > > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > > > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he

was > > > >not > > >> > > >the > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >Dr. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had > >to > >> > > > > >say. > > > >> > > > > > >First > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's > >are > >> > >> > > > > >getting > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my >

> > > > > >interpretation. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and > > >that > > >> > > >a > > > >> > > > > > >stool > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will > >> > > >have > > > >> > > > > > >yeast > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I > >told > >> > >> > > >him > > > >> > >

> > >of > > > > > >> > > > > > >my > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that > >it > >> > > > > >isn't > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we > >> > >had > > >> > > >> > > > > > >waited > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons > > > >abdomen I > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >went

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is > > >really > > >> > > >> > > > > > >backed > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I > > > >told > > >> > > >her > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >that > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. > >mentioned > >> > >> > > >was > > > >> > > > > >my > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me > >> > > >right > > > >> > > > > > >back > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on > >Miralax. > >> > > > > >She > > > >> > > > > > >hasn't > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just > > >irritated > > >> > > >me > > > >> > > > > > >since > > > > > > >> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons > > > >tics > > >> > > >to > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of > >constipation > >> > >> > > > > >relief > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for > > > > >letting > > > >> > > > > >me > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > vent.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >

> > >> > > >> > >> >>

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There is a more evolved method of NAET treatments called Bax Aura. It detects and can treat many more things (apx 65,000) I believe; and it uses laser rather than pressure or needles. Just something else to look at. Still done by a chiropractor.

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Thanks Renae, have you tried this? What did you find out?

To: miralax Sent: Wed, August 31, 2011 8:19:01 AMSubject: Re: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

There is a more evolved method of NAET treatments called Bax Aura. It detects and can treat many more things (apx 65,000) I believe; and it uses laser rather than pressure or needles. Just something else to look at. Still done by a chiropractor.

[Guest guest]

Not yet, but I am planning to use it for my son. I have done NAET in the past and didn’t see improvement in me or my other son who tried it. it was pricey too. But that was about 10 yrs ago when naet was a newer idea. This Bax Aura is something that I ran by my uncle who is an acupuncturist and he encouraged us to give it a try. You should google Bax Aura for more info if you’re interested. From: miralax [mailto:miralax ] On Behalf Of jeanie wardSent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:59 AMTo: miralax Subject: Re: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same? Thanks Renae, have you tried this? What did you find out? To: miralax Sent: Wed, August 31, 2011 8:19:01 AMSubject: Re: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same? There is a more evolved method of NAET treatments called Bax Aura. It detects and can treat many more things (apx 65,000) I believe; and it uses laser rather than pressure or needles. Just something else to look at. Still done by a chiropractor.