Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

August 25, 2011

nope they dont. It comes from laziness, they dont TAKE the time to learn anymore than what they learned in medical school or what the pharmas have lied to them about. Just pure de ole laziness and stupidity on their part. When I read your story I thought it was something I had written about the GIs I had taken my son to see. Tamet So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the Dr. for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say. First off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are getting there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my interpretation. LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a stool sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have yeast in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of my son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had waited so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I went ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really backed up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her that my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right back after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She hasn't called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me since I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting me vent.

August 25, 2011

Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one link included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know you've seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just so he knows you've done your research

Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals â˜º

http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdf

http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144

To: miralax Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AMSubject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the Dr. for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say. First off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are getting there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my interpretation. LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a stool sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have yeast in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of my son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had waited so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I went ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really backed up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her that my son tried it

and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right back after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She hasn't called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me since I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting me vent.

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August 25, 2011

So they called me back and want my son to take Golytely either orally or be

admitted to take it through the nose. So I looked it up and it is the same

thing. I called our Pediatrician and asked to be referred to a new GI Dr. I

also called them back and am waiting for a reply. UHGG>(

Anyways my son has been going more regularly lately and I think I may have found

one thing that causes his constipation. He also went 2 days in a row after that

xray was done.

>

> Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one link

> included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know

you've

> seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just so he

> knows you've done your research

>

> Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals â˜º

>

http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-\

50-a.pdfÂ

>

> http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144Â

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: miralax

> Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

>

> Â

> So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the Dr.

> for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say.

First

> off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are getting

> there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my interpretation.

> LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a stool

> sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have yeast

> in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of

my

> son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't

> absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had waited

> so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I

went

> ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really backed

> up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her

that

> my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my

> sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right back

> after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She

hasn't

> called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me

since

> I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to

> return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief

> that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting me

> vent.

>

August 25, 2011

They are incredible!!! How frustrating! These types of physicians prey on the ignorant. Imagine the damage that could be done in a day and age where information was not easily and readily available for those who seek it!? This is staggering. If I were you, I'd write this GI a letter, copy his practice/employer/hospital and the AMA!! May not make a huge difference, but perhaps it will get his attention.So, what do you think is causing your son's constipation?To: miralax Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:50 PMSubject: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

So they called me back and want my son to take Golytely either orally or be admitted to take it through the nose. So I looked it up and it is the same thing. I called our Pediatrician and asked to be referred to a new GI Dr. I also called them back and am waiting for a reply. UHGG>(

Anyways my son has been going more regularly lately and I think I may have found one thing that causes his constipation. He also went 2 days in a row after that xray was done.

>

> Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one link

> included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know you've

> seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just so he

> knows you've done your research

>

> Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals Ã¢ËœÂº

>

> http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdfÃ‚

>

> http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144Ã‚

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: miralax

> Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

>

> Ã‚

> So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the Dr.

> for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say. First

> off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are getting

> there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my interpretation.

> LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a stool

> sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have yeast

> in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of my

> son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't

> absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had waited

> so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I went

> ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really backed

> up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her that

> my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my

> sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right back

> after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She hasn't

> called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me since

> I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to

> return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief

> that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting me

> vent.

>

August 25, 2011

Well I think there may be other things too but it seems that corn and especially

processed corn products may have something to do with it. See I let him get

some dorritos a couple weeks ago to see if we could reintroduce it and I just

realized that it was not too long after that he started refusing to go and this

was after he had been really compliant about it. He finally told me it hurt.

At first I suspected the Inulin in his Probiotic. But now realize that was most

likely not the issue since he had been taking it for atleast a month by then.

Anyways I finally got him to go and it looked totally different than it usually

does. Big, hard and lumpy. Sorry if TMI. When I looked it up it seems that

may have been the result of a blockage possibly due to all those dorritos. So

although he is slightly sensitive to apple juice I gave him a bottle of that and

he said it seemed to soften it up. I am thinking of doing that once a week and

keeping up the Probiotic with Inulin. As I said he has been going more

regularly. I also took him off rice and banana. See since he is on this

limited diet we were using rice alternatives alot due to his food intolerances

and he also ate banana bread alot as a treat. Which could not have helped the

constipation. I have also learned to listen to his body. In a sense. By which

I mean he will usually start refusing to eat stuff when he cannot tolerate it

anymore. Something he has started to do with those rice alternatives like

noodles and such. I also watch out for anything he seems to crave (like

dorritos. LOL) since that usually means he is sensitive to it also.

> >

> > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one link

> > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know

you've

> > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just so

he

> > knows you've done your research

> >

> > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals Ã¢ËœÂº

> >

http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-\

50-a.pdfÃ‚Â

> >

> > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144Ã‚Â

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>

> > To: miralax

> > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

> >

> > Ã‚Â

> > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the

Dr.

> > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say.

First

> > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are

getting

> > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my

interpretation.

> > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a

stool

> > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have

yeast

> > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of

my

> > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't

> > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had

waited

> > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I

went

> > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really

backed

> > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her

that

> > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my

> > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right

back

> > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She

hasn't

> > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me

since

> > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to

> > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief

> > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting

me

> > vent.

> >

>

August 25, 2011

Thanks for the info. With that Shaklee do you know if it is ok for people with

multiple pollen allergies?

>

> Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one link

> included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know

you've

> seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just so he

> knows you've done your research

>

> Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals â˜º

>

http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-\

50-a.pdfÂ

>

> http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144Â

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: miralax

> Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

>

> Â

> So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the Dr.

> for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say.

First

> off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are getting

> there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my interpretation.

> LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a stool

> sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have yeast

> in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of

my

> son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't

> absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had waited

> so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I

went

> ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really backed

> up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her

that

> my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my

> sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right back

> after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She

hasn't

> called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me

since

> I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to

> return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief

> that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting me

> vent.

>

August 25, 2011

My DD had much the same sensitivities so we took the following out of her diet completely for about a year: bananas, apple juice (gave her the whole fruit, instead), corn, whole cow's milk (give her Lactose-Free Organic 2% milk now), white rice (brown rice is rich in magnesium), all white flour products (bread, pasta, cakes, pancakes, etc), and cheese (we would sometimes give her feta cheese). We quit Miralax on November 29, 2009, after using it for about 8.5 months and haven't looked back since!!Good luck to you.To: miralax Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:43 PMSubject: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

Well I think there may be other things too but it seems that corn and especially processed corn products may have something to do with it. See I let him get some dorritos a couple weeks ago to see if we could reintroduce it and I just realized that it was not too long after that he started refusing to go and this was after he had been really compliant about it. He finally told me it hurt. At first I suspected the Inulin in his Probiotic. But now realize that was most likely not the issue since he had been taking it for atleast a month by then. Anyways I finally got him to go and it looked totally different than it usually does. Big, hard and lumpy. Sorry if TMI. When I looked it up it seems that may have been the result of a blockage possibly due to all those dorritos. So although he is slightly sensitive to apple juice I gave him a bottle of that and he said it seemed to soften it up. I am thinking of doing that once a week and

keeping up the Probiotic with Inulin. As I said he has been going more regularly. I also took him off rice and banana. See since he is on this limited diet we were using rice alternatives alot due to his food intolerances and he also ate banana bread alot as a treat. Which could not have helped the constipation. I have also learned to listen to his body. In a sense. By which I mean he will usually start refusing to eat stuff when he cannot tolerate it anymore. Something he has started to do with those rice alternatives like noodles and such. I also watch out for anything he seems to crave (like dorritos. LOL) since that usually means he is sensitive to it also.

> >

> > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one link

> > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know you've

> > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just so he

> > knows you've done your research

> >

> > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals ÃƒÂ¢Ã‹Å“Ã‚Âº

> >

> > http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdfÃƒâ€šÃ‚

> >

> > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>

> > To: miralax

> > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

> >

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the Dr.

> > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say. First

> > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are getting

> > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my interpretation.

> > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a stool

> > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have yeast

> > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of my

> > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't

> > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had waited

> > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I went

> > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really backed

> > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her that

> > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my

> > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right back

> > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She hasn't

> > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me since

> > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to

> > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief

> > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting me

> > vent.

> >

>

August 25, 2011

If he started having reactions after reintroducing Doritos, it makes me wonder about a gluten sensitivity/allergy. The new Doritos (in the flaming red bag) have gluten, whereas the Doritos in the old '70's bag are GF. Have you tried or thought about a gluten free diet for at least a month to see if it makes a difference? Well I think there may be other things too but it seems that corn and especially processed corn products may have something to do with it. See I let him get some dorritos a couple weeks ago to see if we could reintroduce it and I just realized that it was not too long after that he started refusing to go and this was after he had been really compliant about it. He finally told me it hurt. At first I suspected the Inulin in his Probiotic. But now realize that was most likely not the issue since he had been taking it for atleast a month by then. Anyways I finally got him to go and it looked totally different than it usually does. Big, hard and lumpy. Sorry if TMI. When I looked it up it seems that may have been the result of a blockage possibly due to all those dorritos. So although he is slightly sensitive to apple juice I gave him a bottle of that and he said it seemed to soften it up. I am thinking of doing that once a week and keeping up the Probiotic with Inulin. As I said he has been going more regularly. I also took him off rice and banana. See since he is on this limited diet we were using rice alternatives alot due to his food intolerances and he also ate banana bread alot as a treat. Which could not have helped the constipation. I have also learned to listen to his body. In a sense. By which I mean he will usually start refusing to eat stuff when he cannot tolerate it anymore. Something he has started to do with those rice alternatives like noodles and such. I also watch out for anything he seems to crave (like dorritos. LOL) since that usually means he is sensitive to it also. > > > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one link > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know you've > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just so he > > knows you've done your research > > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals Ã¢ËœÂº > > > > http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdfÃ‚Â > > > > > > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144Ã‚Â > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@> > > To: miralax > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same? > > > > Ã‚Â > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the Dr. > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say. First > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are getting > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my interpretation. > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a stool > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have yeast > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of my > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had waited > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I went > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really backed > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her that > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right back > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She hasn't > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me since > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting me > > vent. > > >

August 25, 2011

I know dorritos was not the best choice since with the different flavors there

are different allergens and we got one of those variety packs. But I came to

the corn conclusion since with all the food sensitivities my son has I have

tried other stuff without the same issue. My son didn't test positive for any

food " allergies " but he does have multiple food sensitivities which include

dairy (but he can have it in small amounts without any problem), gluten (again

small amounts do not seem to cause an issue, legumes and nuts (unless extremely

limited cause mood swings so we have stopped eating them all together), oats

(also cause mood swings), apples (seems to tolerate in small amounts), tomato

(seems to tolerate in small amounts), yeast (only tolerated in extremely small

amounts) beef, pork and carrots I am not sure of. As for food dyes, additives

and preservatives they will also cause breathing/coughing. That is another

thing I have found corn products to aggravate especially when it is pollen

season. It may well have been just too much too especially with my sons

tendency to overeat things he loves. It's those cravings and makes it very hard

to implement even a rotation diet. Which was my plan but didn't work too well.

LOL.

> > >

> > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments

> and one link

> > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken

> myself. I know you've

> > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this

> Physician. Just so he

> > > knows you've done your research

> > >

> > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals Ã¢ËœÂº

> > >

http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-\

50-a.pdfÃ

> ‚Â

> > >

> > > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144Ã‚Â

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>

> > > To: miralax

> > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

> > >

> > > Ã‚Â

> > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he

> was not the Dr.

> > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had

> to say. First

> > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's

> are getting

> > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my

> interpretation.

> > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and

> that a stool

> > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone

> will have yeast

> > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I

> told him of my

> > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that

> it isn't

> > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But

> we had waited

> > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons

> abdomen I went

> > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is

> really backed

> > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course.

> I told her that

> > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr.

> mentioned was my

> > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call

> me right back

> > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on

> Miralax. She hasn't

> > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just

> irritated me since

> > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my

> sons tics to

> > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of

> constipation relief

> > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks

> for letting me

> > > vent.

> > >

> >

>

August 25, 2011

The rice products I used were brown rice tortillas, noodles etc. I wonder if he

just has enough Magnesium in his system now and that is why he doesn't want

them. HMMM. Magnesium and other forms of it always seem to come up. Like my

sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate or Epsom Salts.

Also I don't use any white flour , was using rice flour but am going to try

something else possibly amaranth next. Due to the lactose intolerance and beef

sensitivity I have just cut out milk altogher since my son didn't like the

alternative ones. We also don't use cheese. I am also planning to try that

Daiya but haven't yet due to the yeast in it. Basically I have to practically

make everything from scratch and there are very few ready made things he can

have that he will eat. But I have also found that it also depends on the time

of year and if his pollen allergies are bad. He can tolerate more stuff when

the pollen is low.

As for our Miralax experience. It only took 3 tries for my son to develop tics

and that was only with like 1/4 cap. I have also found that other things can

bring on these tics. It is such a puzzle isn't it? Thanks for the help.

> > >

> > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one

link

> > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know

you've

> > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just

so he

> > > knows you've done your research

> > >

> > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals ÃƒÂ¢Ã‹Å " Ã‚Âº

> > >

http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-\

50-a.pdfÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>

> > > To: miralax

> > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

> > >

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the

Dr.

> > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say.

First

> > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are

getting

> > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my

interpretation.

> > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a

stool

> > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have

yeast

> > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him

of my

> > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't

> > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had

waited

> > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen

I went

> > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really

backed

> > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told

her that

> > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was

my

> > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right

back

> > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She

hasn't

> > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me

since

> > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to

> > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation

relief

> > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting

me

> > > vent.

> > >

> >

>

August 25, 2011

Cravings often mean an intolerance or allergy as the body is nutrient deficient and decides to crave the only way it knows how to get potential nutrients. When the body is deprived of the cravings, it learns how to get nutrients from other foods, functions better and the cravings go away. Then the body can heal. Well, so says our nutritionist... I know dorritos was not the best choice since with the different flavors there are different allergens and we got one of those variety packs. But I came to the corn conclusion since with all the food sensitivities my son has I have tried other stuff without the same issue. My son didn't test positive for any food "allergies" but he does have multiple food sensitivities which include dairy (but he can have it in small amounts without any problem), gluten (again small amounts do not seem to cause an issue, legumes and nuts (unless extremely limited cause mood swings so we have stopped eating them all together), oats (also cause mood swings), apples (seems to tolerate in small amounts), tomato (seems to tolerate in small amounts), yeast (only tolerated in extremely small amounts) beef, pork and carrots I am not sure of. As for food dyes, additives and preservatives they will also cause breathing/coughing. That is another thing I have found corn products to aggravate especially when it is pollen season. It may well have been just too much too especially with my sons tendency to overeat things he loves. It's those cravings and makes it very hard to implement even a rotation diet. Which was my plan but didn't work too well. LOL. > > > > > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments > and one link > > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken > myself. I know you've > > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this > Physician. Just so he > > > knows you've done your research > > > > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals Ã¢ËœÂº > > > > > > http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdfÃ > ‚Â > > > > > > > > > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144Ã‚Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@> > > > To: miralax > > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM > > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same? > > > > > > Ã‚Â > > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he > was not the Dr. > > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had > to say. First > > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's > are getting > > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my > interpretation. > > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and > that a stool > > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone > will have yeast > > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I > told him of my > > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that > it isn't > > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But > we had waited > > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons > abdomen I went > > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is > really backed > > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. > I told her that > > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. > mentioned was my > > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call > me right back > > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on > Miralax. She hasn't > > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just > irritated me since > > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my > sons tics to > > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of > constipation relief > > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks > for letting me > > > vent. > > > > > >

August 25, 2011

I just had to update this with what the GI Dr. says now. He knows of no other

alternatives to PEG and now they said they could schedule a colonoscopy with

anesthesia. To me this just seems stubborn and extreme that he cannot offer any

other ideas that do not involve PEG. Except to physically go in and clean my

son out. It isn't like he never poops. Still waiting to see what the referring

Pediatrician says. We actually see 2 Pediatricians since the one my son sees

that actually understands some about environmental sensitivities and leaky gut

isn't there except for 3 days a week. So I have to wait till Saturday to call

him. But I will call him too. Thing is that although he knows more about this

he is the one who originally suggested Miralax.

As I said in response to another reply to this post I am going to try using

apple juice on a regular basis. Even though my son has shown some sensitivity

to is he can have some. So I figure I will give the apple juice with a no-fenol

enzyme and see how that works.

>

> So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the Dr.

for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say.

First off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are

getting there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my

interpretation. LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability

and that a stool sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone

will have yeast in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways

I told him of my son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says

that it isn't absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But

we had waited so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons

abdomen I went ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is

really backed up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course.

I told her that my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr.

mentioned was my sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to

call me right back after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on

Miralax. She hasn't called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It

just irritated me since I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it

caused my sons tics to return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of

constipation relief that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much?

Thanks for letting me vent.

>

August 25, 2011

Have you seen a naturopath or a holistic nutritionist? They're always very helpful and see things from a different angle. I just had to update this with what the GI Dr. says now. He knows of no other alternatives to PEG and now they said they could schedule a colonoscopy with anesthesia. To me this just seems stubborn and extreme that he cannot offer any other ideas that do not involve PEG. Except to physically go in and clean my son out. It isn't like he never poops. Still waiting to see what the referring Pediatrician says. We actually see 2 Pediatricians since the one my son sees that actually understands some about environmental sensitivities and leaky gut isn't there except for 3 days a week. So I have to wait till Saturday to call him. But I will call him too. Thing is that although he knows more about this he is the one who originally suggested Miralax. As I said in response to another reply to this post I am going to try using apple juice on a regular basis. Even though my son has shown some sensitivity to is he can have some. So I figure I will give the apple juice with a no-fenol enzyme and see how that works. > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the Dr. for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say. First off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are getting there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my interpretation. LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a stool sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have yeast in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of my son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had waited so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I went ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really backed up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her that my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right back after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She hasn't called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me since I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting me vent. >

August 25, 2011

You know I tried and thought I had actually found one that accepted our

insurance only to find out his wife was the Naturopath and didn't accept our

insurance. He didn't have a clue. This is a big issue for me since I cannot

afford to pay out of pocket for one right now.

I just found out that his referring Ped. is on vacation right now and will call

me back Monday to see what he thinks. Also if we need any more appts. with a GI

to refer me to someone else since I do not feel comfortable with the current GI

at all after this.

> >

> > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was

> not the Dr. for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what

> he had to say. First off he told me that basically most parents of

> children with ASD's are getting there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not

> those exact words but my interpretation. LOL. He says that you cannot

> test for intestinal permeability and that a stool sample cannot tell

> if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have yeast in there

> stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of my

> son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it

> isn't absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But

> we had waited so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray

> of my sons abdomen I went ahead and did it. Well his nurse called

> today and said my son is really backed up and guess what she said we

> should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her that my son tried it and

> developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my sons

> sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right

> back after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on

> Miralax. She hasn't called back. So I am wondering what he will say

> now. It just irritated me since I specifically told him we had tried

> Miralax and it caused my sons tics to return. Also don't these Drs.

> know of any other forms of constipation relief that ISN'T Mirlax? Why

> do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting me vent.

> >

>

August 25, 2011

Don't forget about the children who had this done and the nurse inserted the tube into the lungs by mistake, the deposited 280ml into the lungs via gastric tube........liquid plastic made from antifreeze in the lungs..............OoooomyyyyyGoodness. I have the reports, they're in the FDA adverse reactions. I have the individual report also.

To: miralax Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 12:50:33 PMSubject: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

So they called me back and want my son to take Golytely either orally or be admitted to take it through the nose. So I looked it up and it is the same thing. I called our Pediatrician and asked to be referred to a new GI Dr. I also called them back and am waiting for a reply. UHGG>( Anyways my son has been going more regularly lately and I think I may have found one thing that causes his constipation. He also went 2 days in a row after that xray was done. >> Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one link > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know you've > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just so he > knows you've

done your research> > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals Ã¢ËœÂº> > http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdfÃ‚ > > > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144Ã‚ > > > > > ________________________________> > To: miralax > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM> Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?> > Ã‚ > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the Dr. > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say. First > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are

getting > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my interpretation. > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a stool > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have yeast > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of my > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had waited > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I went > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really backed > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her that > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me

right back > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She hasn't > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me since > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting me > vent.>

August 25, 2011

I didn't read that yet. That is scary. This Dr. just upset me sooo much.

There are other alternatives out there and I told him what happened and he seems

to be dismissing me. You know what I mean. As I told the Pediatricians nurse

even if I did decide my son needed the colonoscopy I wouldn't want this

particular GI Dr. and I really don't feel it should be necessary since my son

does have BM's.

> >

> > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one link

> > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know

> >you've

> >

> > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just so

he

>

> > knows you've done your research

> >

> > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals Ã¢ËœÂº

> >

>

>http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45\

-50-a.pdfÃ‚Â

> >Â

> >

> > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144Ã‚Â

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>

> > To: miralax

> > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

> >

> > Ã‚Â

> > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the

Dr.

>

> > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say.

First

> >

> > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are

getting

> > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my

interpretation.

>

> > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a

stool

>

> > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have

yeast

>

> > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of

my

> >

> > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't

> > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had

waited

>

> > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I

> >went

> >

> > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really

backed

>

> > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her

> >that

> >

> > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my

> > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right

back

>

> > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She

hasn't

> >

> > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me

since

> >

> > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to

> > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief

> > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting

me

> > vent.

> >

>

August 26, 2011

Go with mag citrate for the clean out if you do, it seems to be the safest

To: miralax Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 9:45:29 PMSubject: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

I didn't read that yet. That is scary. This Dr. just upset me sooo much. There are other alternatives out there and I told him what happened and he seems to be dismissing me. You know what I mean. As I told the Pediatricians nurse even if I did decide my son needed the colonoscopy I wouldn't want this particular GI Dr. and I really don't feel it should be necessary since my son does have BM's. > >> > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one link > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know > >you've > >> > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just so he > > > knows you've done your research> > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals ÃƒÂ¢Ã‹Å“Ã‚Âº> > > >http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdfÃƒâ€šÃ‚ > >Ã‚ > > > > > >

http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>> > To: miralax > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM> > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the Dr. > > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say. First > >> > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are getting > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my interpretation. > > > LOL. He says that you

cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a stool > > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have yeast > > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of my > >> > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had waited > > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I > >went > >> > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really backed > > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her > >that > >> > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was

supposed to call me right back > > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She hasn't > >> > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me since > >> > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting me > > vent.> >>

August 26, 2011

Hi there, There is a drink you can buy at Whole Foods, I'll get the name for you later, but it contains, mango juice, coconut milk and probiotics. It's supposed to help with bowel movements and I can see why containing what it does. Look for it, if there's a WF near you and give that a try. We stayed away from apple juice bc we found it didn't help.To: miralax Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:12 PMSubject: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

I just had to update this with what the GI Dr. says now. He knows of no other alternatives to PEG and now they said they could schedule a colonoscopy with anesthesia. To me this just seems stubborn and extreme that he cannot offer any other ideas that do not involve PEG. Except to physically go in and clean my son out. It isn't like he never poops. Still waiting to see what the referring Pediatrician says. We actually see 2 Pediatricians since the one my son sees that actually understands some about environmental sensitivities and leaky gut isn't there except for 3 days a week. So I have to wait till Saturday to call him. But I will call him too. Thing is that although he knows more about this he is the one who originally suggested Miralax.

As I said in response to another reply to this post I am going to try using apple juice on a regular basis. Even though my son has shown some sensitivity to is he can have some. So I figure I will give the apple juice with a no-fenol enzyme and see how that works.

>

> So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the Dr. for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say. First off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are getting there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my interpretation. LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a stool sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have yeast in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of my son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had waited so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I went ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really backed up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her that my

son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right back after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She hasn't called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me since I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting me vent.

>

August 26, 2011

Rule of thumb: Any doctor who is dismissive of a patient's concerns should be dismissed by the patient on the spot. Fire this GI and find another. Clearly, he needs to be in a different profession, but certainly not a pediatric GI!!To: miralax Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 10:45 PMSubject: Re:

Do all GI Drs. do the same?

I didn't read that yet. That is scary. This Dr. just upset me sooo much. There are other alternatives out there and I told him what happened and he seems to be dismissing me. You know what I mean. As I told the Pediatricians nurse even if I did decide my son needed the colonoscopy I wouldn't want this particular GI Dr. and I really don't feel it should be necessary since my son does have BM's.

> >

> > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one link

> > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know

> >you've

> >

> > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just so he

>

> > knows you've done your research

> >

> > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals ÃƒÂ¢Ã‹Å“Ã‚Âº

> >

> >http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdfÃƒâ€šÃ‚

> >Ã‚

> >

> > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>

> > To: miralax

> > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

> >

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the Dr.

>

> > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say. First

> >

> > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are getting

> > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my interpretation.

>

> > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a stool

>

> > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have yeast

>

> > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of my

> >

> > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't

> > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had waited

>

> > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I

> >went

> >

> > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really backed

>

> > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her

> >that

> >

> > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my

> > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right back

>

> > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She hasn't

> >

> > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me since

> >

> > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to

> > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief

> > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting me

> > vent.

> >

>

August 26, 2011

I have wanted to try Magnesium but due to my sons sensitivity to Mag. Stearate

and alot of other forms of it I have not tried it yet. Even his one

Pediatrician worries about that. I think it may be where they get the Magnesium

from but am not sure yet. He even had a problem with Zinc when we tried that

the first time for another issue that is . Anyways my son had an unusual

reaction to it.

> > >

> > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one

link

> > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know

> > >you've

> > >

> > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just

so

> >he

> >

> > > knows you've done your research

> > >

> > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals ÃƒÂ¢Ã‹Å " Ã‚Âº

> > >

>

>>http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-4\

5-50-a.pdfÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> >Â

> > >Ã‚Â

> > >

> > > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>

> > > To: miralax

> > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

> > >

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the

> >Dr.

> >

> > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say.

> >First

> >

> > >

> > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are

getting

> >

> > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my

> >interpretation.

> >

> > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a

> >stool

> >

> > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have

> >yeast

> >

> > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him

of

> >my

> >

> > >

> > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't

> > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had

> >waited

> >

> > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen

I

> > >went

> > >

> > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really

> >backed

> >

> > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told

her

> > >that

> > >

> > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was

my

>

> > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right

> >back

> >

> > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She

> >hasn't

> >

> > >

> > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me

> >since

> >

> > >

> > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to

> > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation

relief

>

> > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting

me

> >

> > > vent.

> > >

> >

>

August 27, 2011

what kind of unusual reaction? have you looked up all the forms and read about them? Mag citrate doesn't contain the stearate

To: miralax Sent: Fri, August 26, 2011 11:53:55 AMSubject: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

I have wanted to try Magnesium but due to my sons sensitivity to Mag. Stearate and alot of other forms of it I have not tried it yet. Even his one Pediatrician worries about that. I think it may be where they get the Magnesium from but am not sure yet. He even had a problem with Zinc when we tried that the first time for another issue that is . Anyways my son had an unusual reaction to it. > > >> > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one link > > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know > >

>you've > > >> > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just so > >he > >> > > > > knows you've done your research> > > > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢Ãƒâ€¹Ã…"Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Âº> > > > >>http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdfÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > >Ã‚ > > >Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > > > > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > From: luckymom2one

<pellomelissa@>> > > To: miralax > > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM> > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?> > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the > >Dr. > >> > > > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say. > >First > >> > >> > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are getting > >> > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my > >interpretation. > >> > > > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal

permeability and that a > >stool > >> > > > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have > >yeast > >> > > > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him of > >my > >> > >> > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't > > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had > >waited > >> > > > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I > > >went > > >> > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really > >backed > >> > > > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her > >

>that > > >> > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was my > > > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right > >back > >> > > > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She > >hasn't > >> > >> > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me > >since > >> > >> > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to > > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation relief > > > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting me > >> > > vent.> > >>

>>

August 27, 2011

Behavioral reactions. No I haven't looked up these yet. But anytime my sons

behavior changes due to medication, supplements etc. and we cannot figure out

why I will usually find that it contains some form of magnesium. The only

exceptions I have found are the Melatonin he takes which has Vegetable Magnesium

Stearate and the Pure Life Water he drinks. I really think it depends on where

they get it from.

> > > >

> > > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one

link

> >

> > > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I

know

> > > >you've

> > > >

> > > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just

so

> >

> > >he

> > >

> > > > knows you've done your research

> > > >

> > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals

ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢Ãƒâ€¹Ã… " Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Âº

> > > >

>

>>>http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-\

45-50-a.pdfÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> >Â

> > >Ã‚Â

> > > >Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > >

> > > > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>

> > > > To: miralax

> > > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> > > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

> > > >

> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not

the

>

> > >Dr.

> > >

> > > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to

say.

> > >First

> > >

> > > >

> > > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are

> >getting

> >

> > >

> > > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my

> > >interpretation.

> > >

> > > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a

> > >stool

> > >

> > > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have

> > >yeast

> > >

> > > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told

him

> >of

> >

> > >my

> > >

> > > >

> > > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it

isn't

>

> > > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had

> > >waited

> > >

> > > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons

abdomen I

> >

> > > >went

> > > >

> > > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really

> > >backed

> > >

> > > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told

her

> >

> > > >that

> > > >

> > > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned

was

> >my

> >

> > > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me

right

> > >back

> > >

> > > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She

> > >hasn't

> > >

> > > >

> > > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated

me

> > >since

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics

to

>

> > > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation

> >relief

> >

> > > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for

letting

> >me

> >

> > >

> > > > vent.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 27, 2011

I have learned from the low oxalate group that if we are low in magnesium we could have negative side effects before we get good ones because the body is detoxing oxalates. SO, it is not a bad thing that you see behavioral reactions. It is good because you are getting the bad stuff out. My boys were having that problem because they have oxalates and so they suggested adding baking soda to the bath. And baking soda is sodium bicarbonate which helps our kids detox. Maybe your son is reacting to magnesium because of this??? How long was he on miralax? My boys were on it for 5 and 7 years and I have spent my last year constantly researching all these things to get my kids better. We are finally seeing progress!

I hope this can help you:)!

To: miralax From: pellomelissa@...Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:23:11 +0000Subject: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

Behavioral reactions. No I haven't looked up these yet. But anytime my sons behavior changes due to medication, supplements etc. and we cannot figure out why I will usually find that it contains some form of magnesium. The only exceptions I have found are the Melatonin he takes which has Vegetable Magnesium Stearate and the Pure Life Water he drinks. I really think it depends on where they get it from. > > > >> > > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one link > >> > > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know > > > >you've > > > >> > > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just so > >> > >he > > >> > > > > > > knows you've done your research> > > > > > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢Ãƒâ€¹Ã…"Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Âº> > > > > >>>http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdfÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > >Â > > >Ã‚Â > > > >Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>> > > > To: miralax > > > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM> > > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the > > > >Dr. > > >> > > > > > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say. > > >First > > >> > > >> > > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are > >getting > >> > >> > > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my > > >interpretation. > > >> > > > > > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a > > >stool > > >> > > > > > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have > > >yeast > > >> > > > > > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him > >of > >> > >my > > >> > > >> > > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't > > > > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we had > > >waited > > >> > > > > > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I > >> > > >went > > > >> > > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really > > >backed > > >> > > > > > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her > >> > > >that > > > >> > > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was > >my > >> > > > > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right > > >back > > >> > > > > > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She > > >hasn't > > >> > > >> > > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me > > >since > > >> > > >> > > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to > > > > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation > >relief > >> > > > > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting > >me > >> > >> > > > vent.> > > >> > >> >>

August 27, 2011

That is interesting because when my son started taking a Zinc supplement it made

him really hyper. He felt good but hyper so I called the company to see what

else was in it and the guy told me that this reaction was due to it detoxing

mercury. Now I don't know if that is really the case but after what you said it

seems logical. Plus I have heard Epsom salt baths can cause this reaction at

first too. As for the baking soda I do use that for my son since he doesn't

tolerate Epsom salt. How often do you use baking soda? I have wondered about

oxalates not so much from Miralax since I only gave him 3 doses and stopped due

to the tics. I was leary of it anyways. But from being in this group I realize

he has been exposed to PEG in different forms for years. I was going to try to

go low oxalate with my son but with all his other intolerances it seemed so

overwhelming. I will have to check that group out again. Thanks for the info.

> > > > >

> > > > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one

link

> > >

> > > > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I

know

> > > > >you've

> > > > >

> > > > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician.

Just so

> > >

> > > >he

> > > >

> > > > > knows you've done your research

> > > > >

> > > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals

ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢Ãƒâ€¹Ã… " Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Âº

> > > > >

> >

>>>http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-\

45-50-a.pdfÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >Â

> > > >Ã‚Â

> > > > >Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>

> > > > > To: miralax

> > > > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM

> > > > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not

the

> >

> > > >Dr.

> > > >

> > > > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to

say.

> > > >First

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are

> > >getting

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my

> > > >interpretation.

> > > >

> > > > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that

a

> > > >stool

> > > >

> > > > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will

have

> > > >yeast

> > > >

> > > > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told

him

> > >of

> > >

> > > >my

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it

isn't

> >

> > > > > absorbed. So I knew right there that I got one of those Drs. But we

had

> > > >waited

> > > >

> > > > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons

abdomen I

> > >

> > > > >went

> > > > >

> > > > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is

really

> > > >backed

> > > >

> > > > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I

told her

> > >

> > > > >that

> > > > >

> > > > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned

was

> > >my

> > >

> > > > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me

right

> > > >back

> > > >

> > > > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax.

She

> > > >hasn't

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated

me

> > > >since

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons

tics to

> >

> > > > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation

> > >relief

> > >

> > > > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for

letting

> > >me

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > vent.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 28, 2011

Make sure you are giving expensive supplements. If one stumbles upon a cheap one, you may see reactions when it could have been the answer all along. The better ones are, Metagenics, Kirkman, Shaklee, etc. Zinc balances copper, you could have been seeing this taking place. Elevated copper causes aggression therefore, adding zinc should bring it down. In the inexpensive supplements, there are more impurities, which will add more confusion to the situation.

To: miralax Sent: Sat, August 27, 2011 7:06:03 PMSubject: Re: Do all GI Drs. do the same?

That is interesting because when my son started taking a Zinc supplement it made him really hyper. He felt good but hyper so I called the company to see what else was in it and the guy told me that this reaction was due to it detoxing mercury. Now I don't know if that is really the case but after what you said it seems logical. Plus I have heard Epsom salt baths can cause this reaction at first too. As for the baking soda I do use that for my son since he doesn't tolerate Epsom salt. How often do you use baking soda? I have wondered about oxalates not so much from Miralax since I only gave him 3 doses and stopped due to the tics. I was leary of it anyways. But from being in this group I realize he has been exposed to PEG in different forms for years. I was going to try to go low oxalate with my son but with all his other intolerances it seemed so overwhelming. I will have to check that group out again. Thanks for the info. > > > > >> > > > > Give your doc these..............................2 attachments and one link > > >> > > > > included. Shaklee herblax is a natural laxative I've taken myself. I know > > > > >you've > > > > >> > > > > seen this before, but you may want to give these to this Physician. Just so > > >> > > >he > > > >> > > > > > > > > knows you've

done your research> > > > > > > > > > Jeanie...........better educating our medical professionals ÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Â¹Ãƒâ€¦"ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Âº> > > > > > > >>>http://www.ntuh.gov.tw/PMR/Lists/List14/Attachments/164/10253009-200903-37-1-45-50-a.pdfÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > >Ã‚ > > > >Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > >ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.shaklee.com/products.php?sku=20144ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> >

> > > From: luckymom2one <pellomelissa@>> > > > > To: miralax > > > > > Sent: Thu, August 25, 2011 2:54:17 AM> > > > > Subject: Do all GI Drs. do the same?> > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > So we had our visit with the GI and I could tell right away he was not the > > > > > >Dr. > > > >> > > > > > > > > for us. But since we were there I figured I would see what he had to say. > > > >First > > > >> > > > >> > > > > off he told me that basically most parents of children with ASD's are > > >getting

> > >> > > >> > > > > there hopes up with this Bio Med. Not those exact words but my > > > >interpretation. > > > >> > > > > > > > > LOL. He says that you cannot test for intestinal permeability and that a > > > >stool > > > >> > > > > > > > > sample cannot tell if you have yeast overgrowth since everyone will have > > > >yeast > > > >> > > > > > > > > in there stool. Curious if anyone else has heard this? Anyways I told him > > >of > > >> > > >my > > > >> > > > >> > > > > son trying Miralax and developing tics and OF COURSE he says that it isn't > > > > > > > absorbed. So I knew right

there that I got one of those Drs. But we had > > > >waited > > > >> > > > > > > > > so long just to see him that when he suggested an xray of my sons abdomen I > > >> > > > >went > > > > >> > > > > ahead and did it. Well his nurse called today and said my son is really > > > >backed > > > >> > > > > > > > > up and guess what she said we should do? Take Miralax of course. I told her > > >> > > > >that > > > > >> > > > > my son tried it and developed tics and she said all the Dr. mentioned was > > >my > > >> > > > > > > > sons sensitivity to Magnesium Stearate. She was supposed to call me right > > > >back

> > > >> > > > > > > > > after talking with the Dr. Since I won't put my son back on Miralax. She > > > >hasn't > > > >> > > > >> > > > > called back. So I am wondering what he will say now. It just irritated me > > > >since > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I specifically told him we had tried Miralax and it caused my sons tics to > > > > > > > return. Also don't these Drs. know of any other forms of constipation > > >relief > > >> > > > > > > > that ISN'T Mirlax? Why do they push this stuff so much? Thanks for letting > > >me > > >> > > >> > > > > vent.> > > > >> > > >> >

>> >>

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