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Hey Lena,That's a great idea!!  How do you trust info coming from all over, don't worry, worry, take a wait and see, act now... There is far too much info out there and figuring out which is the correct info is not easy... A geiger counter means you know one way or the other...

We still have to supplement 12 - 24 hours before with potassium iodide (KI) which remains in the body for 1 - 3 days... A geiger counter will specifically tell  when it arrives, so you would still need to have KI in you before this, but more importantly when the coast is clear... I have no idea how long we deal with fallout.. I've read that in the US, those who live within 10 miles of a nuclear reactor will be given two KI pills, that is 130 mgs... Since this remains in the body for 1 - 3 days, are we to assume the danger is over then? I am not so sure. Not knowing, I think I would want to keep up my KI levels until I knew for sure the danger has passed... Or get a read on a geiger counter to know for sure.

Have you been listening to the different news stations about this nuclear issue? One minute you hear things are simmering down, the next news is " more danger " is just now happening... What is for sure, nuclear steam is entering the atmosphere and I don't believe anyone knows for sure if this will be dangerous or not.. When I first posted about this, I was not concerned about the fallout coming here as much as I was about potassium iodide being sold out and fast... This is something you buy and hope you don't need it.  And sure enough, today all KI is sold out... I still am not worried about the fallout at this point, but having this KI (Lugol's) helps me sleep at night... I haven't taken Lugol's for a few months, but I am starting now with 1 drop daily and may even go up to 2 drops today.. I take thyroid meds (Armour) and I have read the body retains less KI when we take these meds... So after a few months of being off of Lugol's, I am slowly scaling back up... 

I never thought about a geiger counter, good thinking... Too bad though those selling them are charging so much... Hey, you like to make things, how about this!!  :-)http://www.imagesco.com/articles/geiger/01.html

Take care,JimPS: I just heard on CNN, nothing much has changed today, don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing... 

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Hi Jim,I decided to buy a geiger counter, because I am not sure you can trust any

information given to us. Unfortunately, they are all sold out and the ones thatused to cost around $125.00 are selling for 4 and 5 hundred dollars on ebay orare up for auction and have been bid way up. I guess I will have to wait until

this crisis passes and the supply comes back. I have seen three nuclear powerplant disasters in my time and if they continue to use these power plants, I amsure it won't be my last, so I might as well be prepared.

>> Hi ,>> Not that I didn't believe you, but I searched and read about destination> Chernobyl!! I think the Soviets and those going to this site are nuts! If> anyone else here wants to book their ticket to Chernobyl, this will get you

> started... :-)>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/13/chernobyl-now-open-to-tourists

>> I've been reading that after a nuclear disaster, many radioactive items> remain and actually have value! So they are picked up and sold... But I> doubt Chernobyl will ever be fit for humans again.. No clean-up is that good

> and reading this link above there are still hot spots! I don't want to be> within 100 miles of a hot spot!>> Initially I was against nuclear power, but over the past several years I've

> been warming up to it as the price of oil and dirty coal are not good for> the US... But this mishap in Japan has completely changed my thinking... Who> would have ever thunk an earthquake could cause a tsunami that causes

> nuclear reactors to melt down.. This is downright scary and just goes to> show we can never prepare for the inevitable... Those wind farms and solar> energy have also been favorites of mine, now they move into the top spot all

> alone. I now have to wonder if this world continues building nuclear power> plants after this... And I also wonder if Tokyo Electric is held> financially responsible for this? Or do they get away with claiming an act

> of God? So many have lost so much and now many are being moved away because> of these reactors and I have to wonder if even more will have to move...> Japan citizens who live within 20 miles of these reactors are being told to

> stay inside... The US is telling Americans in Japan within 50 miles to> remain inside... Who do you believe? And will this still yet be expanded to> even more?>> Yes, what happens many years from now when these buildings are crumbling and

> this waste is still there? Thankfully none of us will have to worry about> this, but those who come after us surely will.. And the more nuclear> accidents we have, the more they will worry.>

> I really think Japan is a big game changer for the nuclear industry... When

> Chernobyl happened, many thought these plants may have been sub-par in> construction... But Japan, the worlds 3rd largest economy, many are going to> be thinking if it can happen in Japan, it can happen in the US or Europe...

> And I am hearing the US has 23 reactors just like those built in Japan, GE> built them... The US claims our have been upgraded, but I would not want to> near one if a earthquake hits..>> This is almost unbelievable, but the worst nuclear power plant in the US

> today is just 24 miles away from New York City in Buchanan, NY! And it is> built on a earthquake fault line! Can you imagine something going wrong> there? AND this plant has the highest " risk rating' in the US....

>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42103936/ns/world_news-asia-pacific/>

> That is very interesting about your Dad and his coworkers... I recall seeing> video of men standing and watching with dark glasses, don't recall if it was> at that time or later on, it was some kind of documentary... Sorry he died

> this way, I am sure none of those people were overly concerned at the time.> There is nothing good that comes from nuclear, bombs, reactors or> whatever... This is something that can be so dangerous and so many can be

> hurt instantly if something goes wrong. Just look at Japan...>> I don't trust government info when any catastrophe happens... I don't trust> what I am hearing now about not to worry about fallout coming from Japan...

> There is not enough potassium iodide to go around if the US was to> experience a major fallout (I am not expecting this), so how could the Feds> be honest about this and then say we don't have anything to help you.... I

> know they don't want to cause panic, but we the people have the right to be> informed so we can all make our own decision....>> Take care,> Jim>>>>>

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> Re:OT VERY IMPORTANT INFO..... OT: Japanese Nuclear facilities leaking.>> Jim said>> " Plutonium-239 has a half life of> 24,000 years! I must presume that humans and animals no longer can go near

> these areas where nuclear plants release this kind of nuclear toxin... " >> Hey Jim you would think that this would be the case, but the soviet> Government> has opened up the Chernobyl site to tours. I saw on the news yesterday,

> people> carrying cameras around taking pictures of the dead Chernobyl nuclear> reactors.> I told my husband that these folks clearly do not understand the half life> of> nuclear radiation. I have been against Nuclear power forever, because I

> believe> that it is so naive to think that humans can build containment buildings> that> can ward off the worst of our natural disasters or bombs from terrorism. The> other problem is building containers to hold the radioactive waste. There is

> not a container in the world that will outlast the half life of nuclear> waste.> I think it is irresponsible of any government to use nuclear power until> they> can figure out fission which would turn the waste back into an inert

> material.> Just my two cents. BTW. My dad was an Engineer that worked for the> government> back in the 1960s. He used to go with all of his coworkers at the lab where> he> worked and observe the nuclear bomb testing in Utah with nothing more then

> dark> glasses on. Every person that he worked with died of Cancer years later> including my dad. Unfortunately, we aren't always told of the dangers> because> governments don't want to create panic. My understanding is the rate of

> Cancer> around the Three Mile Island incident was 10 times higher then other areas> of> Pennsylvania. These cancers hit about 30 years after exposure. Of course you> don't see this reported in the news. I had to go digging for this

> information.>> >

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Very interesting Lena and Jim

Thank you very much ,

Marie

To: Lyme and Rife Group Jim! <Lyme_and_Rife >Sent: Fri, March 18, 2011 6:51:12 PMSubject: Re: OT: VERY IMPORTANT INFO..... OT: Japanese Nuclear facilities lea

Hey Lena,

That's a great idea!! How do you trust info coming from all over, don't worry, worry, take a wait and see, act now... There is far too much info out there and figuring out which is the correct info is not easy... A geiger counter means you know one way or the other...

We still have to supplement 12 - 24 hours before with potassium iodide (KI) which remains in the body for 1 - 3 days... A geiger counter will specifically tell when it arrives, so you would still need to have KI in you before this, but more importantly when the coast is clear... I have no idea how long we deal with fallout.. I've read that in the US, those who live within 10 miles of a nuclear reactor will be given two KI pills, that is 130 mgs... Since this remains in the body for 1 - 3 days, are we to assume the danger is over then? I am not so sure. Not knowing, I think I would want to keep up my KI levels until I knew for sure the danger has passed... Or get a read on a geiger counter to know for sure.

Have you been listening to the different news stations about this nuclear issue? One minute you hear things are simmering down, the next news is "more danger" is just now happening... What is for sure, nuclear steam is entering the atmosphere and I don't believe anyone knows for sure if this will be dangerous or not.. When I first posted about this, I was not concerned about the fallout coming here as much as I was about potassium iodide being sold out and fast... This is something you buy and hope you don't need it. And sure enough, today all KI is sold out... I still am not worried about the fallout at this point, but having this KI (Lugol's) helps me sleep at night... I haven't taken Lugol's for a few months, but I am starting now with 1 drop daily and may even go up to 2 drops today.. I take thyroid meds (Armour) and I have read the body retains less KI when we take these meds... So after a few months of being off of Lugol's, I am slowly

scaling back up...

I never thought about a geiger counter, good thinking... Too bad though those selling them are charging so much... Hey, you like to make things, how about this!! :-)

http://www.imagesco.com/articles/geiger/01.html

Take care,JimPS: I just heard on CNN, nothing much has changed today, don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing...

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Hi Jim,I decided to buy a geiger counter, because I am not sure you can trust anyinformation given to us. Unfortunately, they are all sold out and the ones thatused to cost around $125.00 are selling for 4 and 5 hundred dollars on ebay orare up for auction and have been bid way up. I guess I will have to wait untilthis crisis passes and the supply comes back. I have seen three nuclear powerplant disasters in my time and if they continue to use these power plants, I amsure it won't be my last, so I might as well be prepared.>>

Hi ,>> Not that I didn't believe you, but I searched and read about destination> Chernobyl!! I think the Soviets and those going to this site are nuts! If> anyone else here wants to book their ticket to Chernobyl, this will get you> started... :-)>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/13/chernobyl-now-open-to-tourists>> I've been reading that after a nuclear disaster, many radioactive items> remain and actually have value! So they are picked up and sold... But I> doubt Chernobyl will ever be fit for humans again.. No clean-up is that good> and reading this link above there are still hot spots! I don't want to be> within 100 miles of a hot spot!>> Initially I was against nuclear power, but over the past several years I've> been warming up to it as the price of oil and dirty coal are not good for> the US... But this mishap

in Japan has completely changed my thinking... Who> would have ever thunk an earthquake could cause a tsunami that causes> nuclear reactors to melt down.. This is downright scary and just goes to> show we can never prepare for the inevitable... Those wind farms and solar> energy have also been favorites of mine, now they move into the top spot all> alone. I now have to wonder if this world continues building nuclear power> plants after this... And I also wonder if Tokyo Electric is held> financially responsible for this? Or do they get away with claiming an act> of God? So many have lost so much and now many are being moved away because> of these reactors and I have to wonder if even more will have to move...> Japan citizens who live within 20 miles of these reactors are being told to> stay inside... The US is telling Americans in Japan within 50 miles to> remain

inside... Who do you believe? And will this still yet be expanded to> even more?>> Yes, what happens many years from now when these buildings are crumbling and> this waste is still there? Thankfully none of us will have to worry about> this, but those who come after us surely will.. And the more nuclear> accidents we have, the more they will worry.>> I really think Japan is a big game changer for the nuclear industry... When> Chernobyl happened, many thought these plants may have been sub-par in> construction... But Japan, the worlds 3rd largest economy, many are going to> be thinking if it can happen in Japan, it can happen in the US or Europe...> And I am hearing the US has 23 reactors just like those built in Japan, GE> built them... The US claims our have been upgraded, but I would not want to> near one if a earthquake hits..>> This is

almost unbelievable, but the worst nuclear power plant in the US> today is just 24 miles away from New York City in Buchanan, NY! And it is> built on a earthquake fault line! Can you imagine something going wrong> there? AND this plant has the highest "risk rating' in the US....>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42103936/ns/world_news-asia-pacific/>> That is very interesting about your Dad and his coworkers... I recall seeing> video of men standing and watching with dark glasses, don't recall if it was> at that time or later on, it was some kind of documentary... Sorry he died> this way, I am sure none of those people were overly concerned at the time.> There is nothing good that comes from nuclear, bombs, reactors or> whatever... This is something that can be so dangerous and so many can be> hurt instantly if something goes wrong. Just look at

Japan...>> I don't trust government info when any catastrophe happens... I don't trust> what I am hearing now about not to worry about fallout coming from Japan...> There is not enough potassium iodide to go around if the US was to> experience a major fallout (I am not expecting this), so how could the Feds> be honest about this and then say we don't have anything to help you.... I> know they don't want to cause panic, but we the people have the right to be> informed so we can all make our own decision....>> Take care,> Jim>>>>>> OT VERY IMPORTANT INFO..... OT: Japanese Nuclear facilities leaking. Message>List<http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme_and_Rife/messages/21576?o=1 & xm=1 & \l=1>>> Reply<http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme_and_Rife/post?act=reply & messageN\um=21576>> |Delete<http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme_and_Rife/message/21576?delete=c\onfirm>> Message> #21576 of 21593 <> Prev<http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme_and_Rife/message/21575>> | Next > <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme_and_Rife/message/21577>> Re:OT VERY IMPORTANT

INFO..... OT: Japanese Nuclear facilities leaking.>> Jim said>> " Plutonium-239 has a half life of> 24,000 years! I must presume that humans and animals no longer can go near> these areas where nuclear plants release this kind of nuclear toxin...">> Hey Jim you would think that this would be the case, but the soviet> Government> has opened up the Chernobyl site to tours. I saw on the news yesterday,> people> carrying cameras around taking pictures of the dead Chernobyl nuclear> reactors.> I told my husband that these folks clearly do not understand the half life> of> nuclear radiation. I have been against Nuclear power forever, because I> believe> that it is so naive to think that humans can build containment buildings> that> can ward off the worst of our natural disasters or bombs from terrorism. The> other

problem is building containers to hold the radioactive waste. There is> not a container in the world that will outlast the half life of nuclear> waste.> I think it is irresponsible of any government to use nuclear power until> they> can figure out fission which would turn the waste back into an inert> material.> Just my two cents. BTW. My dad was an Engineer that worked for the> government> back in the 1960s. He used to go with all of his coworkers at the lab where> he> worked and observe the nuclear bomb testing in Utah with nothing more then> dark> glasses on. Every person that he worked with died of Cancer years later> including my dad. Unfortunately, we aren't always told of the dangers> because> governments don't want to create panic. My understanding is the rate of> Cancer> around the Three Mile Island incident was 10 times

higher then other areas> of> Pennsylvania. These cancers hit about 30 years after exposure. Of course you> don't see this reported in the news. I had to go digging for this> information.>> >