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Kaiden wrote:

> As he looked at the paragraph he just wrote, Kaiden wondered if he

should

> let others know that after reading fiction, his thoughts tend to

mimic the

> writing style of the author. " That's crazy, " Kaiden thought to himself.

> " Sure, they're just as autistic as me... but who actually thinks in

> 'fiction?' " He shook his head, as if to dispel the idea. For now, Kaiden

> would keep this aberration of thought to himself.

nah wrote:

> nah has noticed herself thinking in certain authors' writing

styles, and even writing in those writing styles. She wonders if that

is what Kaiden means. She also wonders if Kaiden is a Celtic name.

I get that sometimes, most vividly I remember is actually from

watching a video rather than reading. One evening (at uni) we were

watching III (shakespare, long movie), I left part way through

to bike (bicycle) home and was amused to find that everything I was

think was in the particular style of verse from it (rhyming couple?

pent something? I forget the term), to the point where I was thinking

how I was thinking like this and it was a pity to waste it with

thinking about thinking about it (hmm..not sure that made sense).

nah wrote:

She wonders if others have this constant inner narrator, as she has

all her life. As a child, nah's mother overheard her saying, as

she played with dolls, " It was a lovely spring day, when decided

to go for a walk to see Vanissa. *describes the walk there* When she

arrived, Vanissa said, " ******* " and then said " ******* " and

then they decided to ******* " et cetera. nah's mother later told

her this was most abnormal, but she assumes many of the things she did

were abnormal, being that most people didn't do them.

Yep, my brain is always talking to me. It doesn't always narrate on

what is going on outside but it is always talking (except occasionally

when I'm listening to music and playing solitair type games on the

computer).

I remember when I was little playing with dolls and telling them that

this other doll would have to stay with us because her mummy couldn't

look after her (sick or dead, I don't remember), my sister overheard

and was amused (or offended, I don't remember) because it was her

doll. When I think about it this was probably around when the mummy of

one of the other little girls at church was dying of cancer, of course

it could have been a fluke, I'll never know.

Jen

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Here's my variant on that thinking style. It's an item from

my Snippets web page.

Anxiety Rehearsal

In a discussion about anxiety, an AS woman wrote that she knew it was

useless to worry about upcoming events or changes in her life, but she

couldn't help feeling anxious anyway. I wrote:

I know what you mean! One of my big problems is the way I habitually

" rehearse " everything in advance. It would be okay if all I did was

practice what I wanted to do/say myself. The trouble comes from the fact

that I also make up parts for everyone else!

For example, I have to fight very hard to stop myself from creating

complete scenes (dialogue, mostly) between me and [a service person with

whom I has having a series of unsatisfactory contacts]. It's not that I

don't know the difference between reality (when it happens) and my own

fantasy world about what reality might turn out to be like. The problem is

that when I let myself " indulge " in making up those scenes, I fill myself

up with all the emotions that go along with the dialogue. And because I am

most anxious about his doing/saying things that will make me angry, all my

dialogues end up with me very angry at him!

It's so tempting to " rehearse " in that way. It seems like a natural thing

for me to do, like it's just the way my brain works on its own. But I know

I have to try to stop doing it. My brain probably is trying to control the

future (and thus lessen anxiety) by working through what might happen. But

since that kind of " practice " gives me only an illusion of control and in

the process fills me full of adrenalin and anxiety, it's obviously

something I've got to avoid as much as I can.

Jane

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Jane Meyerding <jane@j...> wrote:

> Here's my variant on that thinking style. It's an item from

> my Snippets web page.

>

> Anxiety Rehearsal

>

> In a discussion about anxiety, an AS woman wrote that she knew it was

> useless to worry about upcoming events or changes in her life, but she

> couldn't help feeling anxious anyway. I wrote:

>

> I know what you mean! One of my big problems is the way I habitually

> " rehearse " everything in advance. It would be okay if all I did was

> practice what I wanted to do/say myself. The trouble comes from the

fact

> that I also make up parts for everyone else!

Yep, I do that. Although currently I tend to be doing it more in a

fantasy sense rather than a productive. For example fantasizing that

I've won lotto and going through what I'd do, things I'd give to

people, how they would react etc. it's more fun than the reality of

goverment dole :(. Okay so it's probably not a healthy habit but it

makes trying to get to sleep slightly less stressful.

I remember mum telling me that I shouldn't rehearse stuff in my head

before it happened and I tried to be 'good' but I had to give up and

go back to doing it, stuff didn't work as well if I didn't rehearse

it. Although I have given up on looking forward to stuff most of the

time unless I have full control of whether it will happen. At the time

I didn't tell mum that I had ignored her but when I talked to her more

recently she agreed that we function differently (she does the

emotional NT thing). I suspect that when mum does it she gets so

caught up in the emotions that it is a bad thing, according to her she

thinks in emotions rather than (for example) words or pictures, it is

something I fail to understand.

But

> since that kind of " practice " gives me only an illusion of control

and in

> the process fills me full of adrenalin and anxiety, it's obviously

> something I've got to avoid as much as I can.

When I use it for real life I tend to try and think of variations of

how they might react and try to cover as many as I can think of. I

haven't been doing it much recently, I'm guessing that's either due to

not being in new situations much or possibly just not caring at the

moment.

Jen

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Why do you think you should stop doing it? I do that all the time, and I

find it helps me to be prepared when I am in conversations: I have already

rehearsed the points to make.

Louis

In my house, " normal " is only a setting on the dryer.

From: Jane Meyerding

I know what you mean! One of my big problems is the way I habitually

" rehearse " everything in advance. It would be okay if all I did was

practice what I wanted to do/say myself. The trouble comes from the fact

that I also make up parts for everyone else!

For example, I have to fight very hard to stop myself from creating

complete scenes (dialogue, mostly) between me and [a service person with

whom I has having a series of unsatisfactory contacts]. It's not that I

don't know the difference between reality (when it happens) and my own

fantasy world about what reality might turn out to be like. The problem is

that when I let myself " indulge " in making up those scenes, I fill myself

up with all the emotions that go along with the dialogue. And because I am

most anxious about his doing/saying things that will make me angry, all my

dialogues end up with me very angry at him!

It's so tempting to " rehearse " in that way. It seems like a natural thing

for me to do, like it's just the way my brain works on its own. But I know

I have to try to stop doing it. My brain probably is trying to control the

future (and thus lessen anxiety) by working through what might happen. But

since that kind of " practice " gives me only an illusion of control and in

the process fills me full of adrenalin and anxiety, it's obviously

something I've got to avoid as much as I can.

Jane

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Definitely a good thing. I mean, for job interviews, people do mock

interviews, have lists of prepared questions and answers, read ENTIRE BOOKS

on how to " ace " the interview, etc. While less money is on the line in

other conversations, it's still useful to be able to anticipate what is

going to happen.

> Why do you think you should stop doing it? I do that all the time, and I

> find it helps me to be prepared when I am in conversations: I have already

> rehearsed the points to make.

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Louise wrote:

>Why do you think you should stop doing it? I do that all the time, and I

>find it helps me to be prepared when I am in conversations: I have already

>rehearsed the points to make.

you were responding to a post in which I wrote:

>>It's so tempting to " rehearse " in that way. It seems like a natural thing

>>for me to do, like it's just the way my brain works on its own. But I know

>>I have to try to stop doing it. My brain probably is trying to control the

>>future (and thus lessen anxiety) by working through what might happen. But

>>since that kind of " practice " gives me only an illusion of control and in

>>the process fills me full of adrenalin and anxiety, it's obviously

>>something I've got to avoid as much as I can.

Does that answer your question? Your rehearsals help you

cope. My rehearsals are so out of control that they leave

me flooded with useless emotion, full of adrenalin and

anxiety.

If I could rehearse appropriately and then stop, that

would be helpful. Getting into a spiral of increasingly

dire and anger-fulled scenarios, however, is not helpful,

especially when those emotional reactions spill over onto

the innocent people for whom I was rehearsing.

Jane

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I should have noted in my last post that I don't mean

it is necessary (or possible, or convenient) for me to

avoid all rehearsals. Just that I need to stop myself

from getting caught up in the process to the point

where the rehearsal becomes more " real " than reality --

and almost always less pleasant/productive.

Jane

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> If I could rehearse appropriately and then stop, that

> would be helpful. Getting into a spiral of increasingly

> dire and anger-fulled scenarios, however, is not helpful,

> especially when those emotional reactions spill over onto

> the innocent people for whom I was rehearsing.

My problem was I used to always rehearse *past* scenarios. Which did

not do me any good, but I would get very riled up about them, and

then often scream my responses to them even in completely different

situations as I was remembering/rehearsing them.

For instance, the time when I got up on stage having planned my

speech but forgotten to translate it into words first (I didn't have

a clear idea back then that there was a *reason* I had trouble with

talking, I just knew it was something other than anxiety because I

was rarely scared when it happened), and when everyone was jeering

and taunting me and telling me to sit down, when I had actually

almost been prevented from getting on stage just because of my

appearance. For *years* after that incident, every time I remembered

it, I would automatically start replaying it in as many ways as

possible in order to figure out what I should have said.

This would result in me screaming " I WAS *FIRST IN LINE*! I WAS

*SUPPOSED TO BE THERE*! " at inopportune times.

These days, I'm not as bothered by it, because I know why it

happened, and it's no longer mortifying. But for a long time every

time I thought of it something like that would happen. Same with a

lot of other memories.

I don't know what's made me mostly stop doing that, though.

I still rehearse *language* for situations, but I don't seem to get

as caught up and riled as I used to. But I can't explain why. :-/

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Jane wrote:

> If I could rehearse appropriately and then stop, that

> would be helpful. Getting into a spiral of increasingly

> dire and anger-fulled scenarios, however, is not helpful,

> especially when those emotional reactions spill over onto

> the innocent people for whom I was rehearsing.

I also tend to rehearse in my mind to the point where it is not helpful. It

increases my anxiety about the situation. I find that I have to work at not

rehearsing scenarios! Like right now. I was driving home last Tuesday

evening and my dashboard lights went out. My headlights were still working

so I was proceeding carefully home when I saw those dreaded flashing lights

behind me. I hate being pulled over, even though I know I am perfectly

innocent.

The policeman was very nice though and asked me if I knew why he pulled me

over. I answered honestly that I was not sure (though I was thinking it was

connected to the malfunctioning dashboard lights). He told me that I had no

taillights! I went out and looked, and yep, sure enough didn't. He gave me a

fix it ticket and said that if I got it fixed in 24 hours I could just go to

the police station and show them and would not have to appear in court.

Well, I couldn't get the thing fixed for 2 days, so now I have to appear in

court tomorrow.

Now, it seems like a simple thing. Go to court, show the judge proof I got

it fixed. But my mind wants to play scenarios where the judge keeps asking

me if I knew the taillights were out and was knowingly driving with them

like that. Then there is the bill from the car shop where I got it fixed. It

says " headlight switch " changed. Now I'm thinking that the judge is going to

see the words " headlight switch " and accuse me of driving without

headlights! I really have to make myself stop thinking of going before the

judge and just wait and do it.

Take care,

Gail :-)

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" Gail Pennington " wrote:

> Now, it seems like a simple thing. Go to court, show the judge proof

I got

> it fixed. But my mind wants to play scenarios where the judge keeps

asking

> me if I knew the taillights were out and was knowingly driving with them

> like that. Then there is the bill from the car shop where I got it

fixed. It

> says " headlight switch " changed. Now I'm thinking that the judge is

going to

> see the words " headlight switch " and accuse me of driving without

> headlights! I really have to make myself stop thinking of going

before the

> judge and just wait and do it.

Is it possible to take some kind of advocate along?

Jen

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Jen wrote:

> Is it possible to take some kind of advocate along?

I am going to take my friend Becky with me. The last time I had a ticket a

few years ago she came with me for moral support. It helps that she knows

the judge.

Take care,

Gail :-)

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