Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Kaiden wrote: > As he looked at the paragraph he just wrote, Kaiden wondered if he should > let others know that after reading fiction, his thoughts tend to mimic the > writing style of the author. " That's crazy, " Kaiden thought to himself. > " Sure, they're just as autistic as me... but who actually thinks in > 'fiction?' " He shook his head, as if to dispel the idea. For now, Kaiden > would keep this aberration of thought to himself. nah wrote: > nah has noticed herself thinking in certain authors' writing styles, and even writing in those writing styles. She wonders if that is what Kaiden means. She also wonders if Kaiden is a Celtic name. I get that sometimes, most vividly I remember is actually from watching a video rather than reading. One evening (at uni) we were watching III (shakespare, long movie), I left part way through to bike (bicycle) home and was amused to find that everything I was think was in the particular style of verse from it (rhyming couple? pent something? I forget the term), to the point where I was thinking how I was thinking like this and it was a pity to waste it with thinking about thinking about it (hmm..not sure that made sense). nah wrote: She wonders if others have this constant inner narrator, as she has all her life. As a child, nah's mother overheard her saying, as she played with dolls, " It was a lovely spring day, when decided to go for a walk to see Vanissa. *describes the walk there* When she arrived, Vanissa said, " ******* " and then said " ******* " and then they decided to ******* " et cetera. nah's mother later told her this was most abnormal, but she assumes many of the things she did were abnormal, being that most people didn't do them. Yep, my brain is always talking to me. It doesn't always narrate on what is going on outside but it is always talking (except occasionally when I'm listening to music and playing solitair type games on the computer). I remember when I was little playing with dolls and telling them that this other doll would have to stay with us because her mummy couldn't look after her (sick or dead, I don't remember), my sister overheard and was amused (or offended, I don't remember) because it was her doll. When I think about it this was probably around when the mummy of one of the other little girls at church was dying of cancer, of course it could have been a fluke, I'll never know. Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Here's my variant on that thinking style. It's an item from my Snippets web page. Anxiety Rehearsal In a discussion about anxiety, an AS woman wrote that she knew it was useless to worry about upcoming events or changes in her life, but she couldn't help feeling anxious anyway. I wrote: I know what you mean! One of my big problems is the way I habitually " rehearse " everything in advance. It would be okay if all I did was practice what I wanted to do/say myself. The trouble comes from the fact that I also make up parts for everyone else! For example, I have to fight very hard to stop myself from creating complete scenes (dialogue, mostly) between me and [a service person with whom I has having a series of unsatisfactory contacts]. It's not that I don't know the difference between reality (when it happens) and my own fantasy world about what reality might turn out to be like. The problem is that when I let myself " indulge " in making up those scenes, I fill myself up with all the emotions that go along with the dialogue. And because I am most anxious about his doing/saying things that will make me angry, all my dialogues end up with me very angry at him! It's so tempting to " rehearse " in that way. It seems like a natural thing for me to do, like it's just the way my brain works on its own. But I know I have to try to stop doing it. My brain probably is trying to control the future (and thus lessen anxiety) by working through what might happen. But since that kind of " practice " gives me only an illusion of control and in the process fills me full of adrenalin and anxiety, it's obviously something I've got to avoid as much as I can. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Jane Meyerding <jane@j...> wrote: > Here's my variant on that thinking style. It's an item from > my Snippets web page. > > Anxiety Rehearsal > > In a discussion about anxiety, an AS woman wrote that she knew it was > useless to worry about upcoming events or changes in her life, but she > couldn't help feeling anxious anyway. I wrote: > > I know what you mean! One of my big problems is the way I habitually > " rehearse " everything in advance. It would be okay if all I did was > practice what I wanted to do/say myself. The trouble comes from the fact > that I also make up parts for everyone else! Yep, I do that. Although currently I tend to be doing it more in a fantasy sense rather than a productive. For example fantasizing that I've won lotto and going through what I'd do, things I'd give to people, how they would react etc. it's more fun than the reality of goverment dole . Okay so it's probably not a healthy habit but it makes trying to get to sleep slightly less stressful. I remember mum telling me that I shouldn't rehearse stuff in my head before it happened and I tried to be 'good' but I had to give up and go back to doing it, stuff didn't work as well if I didn't rehearse it. Although I have given up on looking forward to stuff most of the time unless I have full control of whether it will happen. At the time I didn't tell mum that I had ignored her but when I talked to her more recently she agreed that we function differently (she does the emotional NT thing). I suspect that when mum does it she gets so caught up in the emotions that it is a bad thing, according to her she thinks in emotions rather than (for example) words or pictures, it is something I fail to understand. But > since that kind of " practice " gives me only an illusion of control and in > the process fills me full of adrenalin and anxiety, it's obviously > something I've got to avoid as much as I can. When I use it for real life I tend to try and think of variations of how they might react and try to cover as many as I can think of. I haven't been doing it much recently, I'm guessing that's either due to not being in new situations much or possibly just not caring at the moment. Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 Why do you think you should stop doing it? I do that all the time, and I find it helps me to be prepared when I am in conversations: I have already rehearsed the points to make. Louis In my house, " normal " is only a setting on the dryer. From: Jane Meyerding I know what you mean! One of my big problems is the way I habitually " rehearse " everything in advance. It would be okay if all I did was practice what I wanted to do/say myself. The trouble comes from the fact that I also make up parts for everyone else! For example, I have to fight very hard to stop myself from creating complete scenes (dialogue, mostly) between me and [a service person with whom I has having a series of unsatisfactory contacts]. It's not that I don't know the difference between reality (when it happens) and my own fantasy world about what reality might turn out to be like. The problem is that when I let myself " indulge " in making up those scenes, I fill myself up with all the emotions that go along with the dialogue. And because I am most anxious about his doing/saying things that will make me angry, all my dialogues end up with me very angry at him! It's so tempting to " rehearse " in that way. It seems like a natural thing for me to do, like it's just the way my brain works on its own. But I know I have to try to stop doing it. My brain probably is trying to control the future (and thus lessen anxiety) by working through what might happen. But since that kind of " practice " gives me only an illusion of control and in the process fills me full of adrenalin and anxiety, it's obviously something I've got to avoid as much as I can. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 Definitely a good thing. I mean, for job interviews, people do mock interviews, have lists of prepared questions and answers, read ENTIRE BOOKS on how to " ace " the interview, etc. While less money is on the line in other conversations, it's still useful to be able to anticipate what is going to happen. > Why do you think you should stop doing it? I do that all the time, and I > find it helps me to be prepared when I am in conversations: I have already > rehearsed the points to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 Louise wrote: >Why do you think you should stop doing it? I do that all the time, and I >find it helps me to be prepared when I am in conversations: I have already >rehearsed the points to make. you were responding to a post in which I wrote: >>It's so tempting to " rehearse " in that way. It seems like a natural thing >>for me to do, like it's just the way my brain works on its own. But I know >>I have to try to stop doing it. My brain probably is trying to control the >>future (and thus lessen anxiety) by working through what might happen. But >>since that kind of " practice " gives me only an illusion of control and in >>the process fills me full of adrenalin and anxiety, it's obviously >>something I've got to avoid as much as I can. Does that answer your question? Your rehearsals help you cope. My rehearsals are so out of control that they leave me flooded with useless emotion, full of adrenalin and anxiety. If I could rehearse appropriately and then stop, that would be helpful. Getting into a spiral of increasingly dire and anger-fulled scenarios, however, is not helpful, especially when those emotional reactions spill over onto the innocent people for whom I was rehearsing. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 I should have noted in my last post that I don't mean it is necessary (or possible, or convenient) for me to avoid all rehearsals. Just that I need to stop myself from getting caught up in the process to the point where the rehearsal becomes more " real " than reality -- and almost always less pleasant/productive. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 > If I could rehearse appropriately and then stop, that > would be helpful. Getting into a spiral of increasingly > dire and anger-fulled scenarios, however, is not helpful, > especially when those emotional reactions spill over onto > the innocent people for whom I was rehearsing. My problem was I used to always rehearse *past* scenarios. Which did not do me any good, but I would get very riled up about them, and then often scream my responses to them even in completely different situations as I was remembering/rehearsing them. For instance, the time when I got up on stage having planned my speech but forgotten to translate it into words first (I didn't have a clear idea back then that there was a *reason* I had trouble with talking, I just knew it was something other than anxiety because I was rarely scared when it happened), and when everyone was jeering and taunting me and telling me to sit down, when I had actually almost been prevented from getting on stage just because of my appearance. For *years* after that incident, every time I remembered it, I would automatically start replaying it in as many ways as possible in order to figure out what I should have said. This would result in me screaming " I WAS *FIRST IN LINE*! I WAS *SUPPOSED TO BE THERE*! " at inopportune times. These days, I'm not as bothered by it, because I know why it happened, and it's no longer mortifying. But for a long time every time I thought of it something like that would happen. Same with a lot of other memories. I don't know what's made me mostly stop doing that, though. I still rehearse *language* for situations, but I don't seem to get as caught up and riled as I used to. But I can't explain why. :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Jane wrote: > If I could rehearse appropriately and then stop, that > would be helpful. Getting into a spiral of increasingly > dire and anger-fulled scenarios, however, is not helpful, > especially when those emotional reactions spill over onto > the innocent people for whom I was rehearsing. I also tend to rehearse in my mind to the point where it is not helpful. It increases my anxiety about the situation. I find that I have to work at not rehearsing scenarios! Like right now. I was driving home last Tuesday evening and my dashboard lights went out. My headlights were still working so I was proceeding carefully home when I saw those dreaded flashing lights behind me. I hate being pulled over, even though I know I am perfectly innocent. The policeman was very nice though and asked me if I knew why he pulled me over. I answered honestly that I was not sure (though I was thinking it was connected to the malfunctioning dashboard lights). He told me that I had no taillights! I went out and looked, and yep, sure enough didn't. He gave me a fix it ticket and said that if I got it fixed in 24 hours I could just go to the police station and show them and would not have to appear in court. Well, I couldn't get the thing fixed for 2 days, so now I have to appear in court tomorrow. Now, it seems like a simple thing. Go to court, show the judge proof I got it fixed. But my mind wants to play scenarios where the judge keeps asking me if I knew the taillights were out and was knowingly driving with them like that. Then there is the bill from the car shop where I got it fixed. It says " headlight switch " changed. Now I'm thinking that the judge is going to see the words " headlight switch " and accuse me of driving without headlights! I really have to make myself stop thinking of going before the judge and just wait and do it. Take care, Gail :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 " Gail Pennington " wrote: > Now, it seems like a simple thing. Go to court, show the judge proof I got > it fixed. But my mind wants to play scenarios where the judge keeps asking > me if I knew the taillights were out and was knowingly driving with them > like that. Then there is the bill from the car shop where I got it fixed. It > says " headlight switch " changed. Now I'm thinking that the judge is going to > see the words " headlight switch " and accuse me of driving without > headlights! I really have to make myself stop thinking of going before the > judge and just wait and do it. Is it possible to take some kind of advocate along? Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Jen wrote: > Is it possible to take some kind of advocate along? I am going to take my friend Becky with me. The last time I had a ticket a few years ago she came with me for moral support. It helps that she knows the judge. Take care, Gail :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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