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I can't read or write with music on, either, but I can do anything else

(cleaning or anything like that I do better with music on) and I can talk with

music on but only if it's not important. If it's important, I have trouble if

the music is on, or if it's vocal music, it's harder than with instrumental

music.

Jane Meyerding wrote: wrote:

>i differ . I cannot do anything (except listen)with the radio on. Cause i

>end up " reading " the words so i can listen attentively, and homework style

>paperwork is impossible. Laundry is ok though.

I can make bears or wash dishes or iron with the radio

(or music) on, but not read or write.

Jane

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> So, I guess we can sum up from the experiences here that stimming

doesn't

> " distract " us from learning... and that if we're not paying

attention while

> stimming it's because we find the subject not worth paying attention

to in

> the first place?

I would say not only does it not distract me from learning, but that

trying to keep stimming (in the sense of the body movements) from

happening would distract me from learning far more than the movements

would.

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At 08:14 AM 11/19/2003 -0600, you wrote:

>So, I guess we can sum up from the experiences here that stimming doesn't

> " distract " us from learning... and that if we're not paying attention while

>stimming it's because we find the subject not worth paying attention to in

>the first place?

depends on the stim I guess

-jypsy

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For me it is better if the music does not have lyrics.

Ride the Music

AndyTiedye

beanstalk733@... wrote:

>i differ . I cannot do anything (except listen)with the radio on. Cause i

>end up " reading " the words so i can listen attentively, and homework style

>paperwork is impossible. Laundry is ok though.

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

I guess I can read or write with a radio going, I just don't have the

radio going very often.

When I was trying to learn to speak Mandarin, I couldn't say the

words out loud if music was going because the music overrided

the " tones " I was trying to produce.

I'd sort of get confused with the tones in the music. Chinese is

very odd.

Camille

> >i differ . I cannot do anything (except listen)with the radio on.

Cause i

> >end up " reading " the words so i can listen attentively, and

homework style

> >paperwork is impossible. Laundry is ok though.

>

> I can make bears or wash dishes or iron with the radio

> (or music) on, but not read or write.

>

> Jane

>

>

>

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> nah

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At 05:33 AM 11/19/2003 -0800, you wrote:

>I have been meaning to ask you if you did that cover art for that because

>I recognized it from your web site! I also do this and my doodles are

>somewhat similar to yours. I have been doing them since about 6th grade

>(or maybe 7th grade) and of course people think I am not paying attention

>because I am doodling but I find it hard to focus if I am *not* doodling

>or toying with an object or picking at my hair or something. I'll have to

>post a pic of the cover of " Die Sacred Heft " which was a communal diary a

>friend and I had my senior year of high school (pidgin German for " The

>Sacred Notebook " ). I did one of my doodles in black-on-white like I

>usually do, with blue-on-white for the words. It's the most difficult one

>I've ever done, the only one that actually required concentration. I'll

>put it in the " art " section of the photo album if I can figure out how to

>use that, otherwise I'll just put it on a web site.

>

>I want to point out, also, that your doodles are somewhat similar to

>Northwest Coast Native American art. That's the second thing I thought

>when I saw that on your web site. The first thing I thought was, " That

>looks almost exactly like what I do! " and called my husband in to show it

>to him. I wonder how many of us do this?

I've seen similar stuff done by spectrum folk. I have done it since at

least grade 5 in the margins of my school books, at some point I was asked

to keep my work " clean " and devote a separate page to doodling rather than

the margins. My husband and I built our first home on the Northwest Coast

of North America.... in the woods outside of Tofino BC ....out of 4mil

plastic. I was however raised mostly in Canada's capital city and then the

east coast so my winter on Vancouver Island as my second decade ended

hardly counts for any influence on my grade 5 doodling.

-jypsy

> " jypsy [ janet norman-bain ] " wrote:

>At 02:23 AM 11/19/2003 -0600, you wrote:

> >Thanks for the information on ABA... but there's something I'm really

> >unclear of that isn't talked about, and that's stimming and " stopping " it

> >with ABA.

> >

> >It's not that I don't know what stimming is... just that I don't know if the

> > " we need to stop it to get them to pay attention " is true or not.

>

>just more NT " misunderstanding "

>

>

> >I found while working technical support that if I played with silly putty, I

> >was able to create internal imagery of what the caller was saying without as

> >much mental effort.

>

>I doodle to listen, hear and remember. I did the cover " art " of Chris

>Gilberge's " A Guide to Asperger Syndrome " -

>http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0521001838/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-1040813-9583323#re\

ader-link

>The original is at the top of http://PlanetAutism.com/artwork.htm - they

>are " notes " from a conference.

>

>

> >Faking normal is a good skill, but it shouldn't be taught as the only way to

> >be. Accepting differences is a better skill, as it releaves stress on both

> >the accepter and the acceptee.

>

>http://PlanetAutism.com/acceptance.htm

>

>-jypsy

>

>

>________________________________

>Ooops....Wrong Planet! Syndrome

>Autism Spectrum Resources

>www.PlanetAutism.com

>jypsy@...

>

>

>

>nah

>

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This message from nah arched across the cosmos:

>I had my senior year of high school (pidgin German for " The Sacred

>Notebook " ). I did one of my doodles in black-on-white like I usually do,

>with blue-on-white for the words. It's the most difficult one I've ever

>done, the only one that actually required concentration. I'll put it in

>the " art " section of the photo album if I can figure out how to use that,

>otherwise I'll just put it on a web site.

I create similar drawings in margins all the time, too, and have as long as

I can remember, as does my AS father. I ran across a bunch of

notes/homework from my school years, and most of it has detailed drawings

almost exactly like what Jypsy posted a picture of. I know I just saw it

recently -- I'll look in my boxes and see if it's in there. :-)

DeGraf ~*~ http://www.sonic.net/mustang/moggy

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> Kaiden Fox wrote:

> I live in Wisconsin.

>

> BEHOLD THE POWER OF CHEESE!

>

> OK, I'm done now.

anonoymah wrote:

> Ha-ha! Now I can stalk you! Just kidding.

>

> I live in Indiana.

>

I guess I won't be stalking anyone, I live in New Zealand. (I'm

tempted to put a sad face after that but in a way I'm slowing becoming

accustomed to the fact that at this rate I'm not going to get overseas

*sad face*)

Jen

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nah <anonoymah@s...> wrote:

> nah--24 years old, live in Indiana, currently in graduate

school for Museum Studies, thinking of music as a career, planning to

drop out of grad school at the end of the semester, married for almost

years.

>

> I guess that's mostly it.

>

> Kassiane Yelbis <MissAsparagus@m...> wrote:

> Im only semi regular because of Stuff goin' on in real life, but...

>

> Kassiane-aged 21 (as of Monday), midwestern, gymnast and just promoted

> to a team coach, more diagnoses than any THREE people need-get a DSM IV

> and start reading, I have about half. Work with autistic kiddos, speak

> locally and nationally a little, write some stuff, and I dont know how

> to do a short blurb about anything...

>

> Kassiane

Hey, look, a social trend thing that I've actually noticed and feel

like following *giggle to self*

Let's see. I'm Joyce s, as I child I decided that I

didn't like being called so I requested parental permission

to be called , since then I've decided I don't like being called

any more (it makes me feel icky for some reason) so I've been

encouraging people to call me Jen.

I live in New Zealand (some islands in the south pacific for those's

who don't know, near Australia). I'm currently 24 (nearly 25, um..in a

little under 2 months). I went to University for three years after

leaving High School, first year I failed a couple of papers and was

absolutely devistated, I put all my books away and hide the games on

my computer and resolved to do better the following year. I went on to

failing increasing numbers of papers in the next couple of years

before I gave up (so I'm stuborn and can be a bit dense on occasion).

On the up side I spent the time hanging around with a fun bunch of

geeks and nerds (etc.) where I learnt a bunch of useful social stuff,

including deciding that having people touching my back etc. might not

be such a bad thing (a very tactile bunch of people) so I spent a

while (about a year?) training myself not too jump and tense everytime

anyone touched my back/neck/sides, I've even had a couple of back

massages since then although I still tend to tense up and haven't

managed to get to the point where they don't hurt :(

Um..spent about a year trying (and failing) to get into the airforce,

I'm since pleased I didn't as it was probably a bad idea. Then we

found out about the Autism/Aspergers stuff and that gave me the

courage to try the education thing again. I went to Polytech to do

electronics/computer stuff, I did well the first year (managed to

stave off boredom just) but ran out of momentum early in the next

year, predicably I didn't figure out that I should just quit and stuck

around until the end of the year with my course work going down the drain.

By the end of the year I decided I would prefer to do programming and

thought I would give it one more try in a different educational

environment. So I went to a private (expensive) company that did a

self paced, set hours, set work kind of program. It was brillient

*grin*, I completed ahead of time with nothing below a B+ (I might

have even gotten a dux, I will know end of next week).

Unfortunately in the 5 months since then I have failed to get a single

job interview, let alone a job :(. I'm currently inclined to partially

blame that on flatting with 3 other people and am in the process of

retreating back to my parents until I can afford to get a flat by

myself. At which point I will probably be looking for a nice easy job

(maybe factory work) and hopefully do some programming at home in my

own time for a bit. I also have plans to do more art sort of stuff.

Hmm...oops, I didn't intend to write an epic. sorry.

Jen

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> Jane Meyerding <jane@j...> wrote: wrote:

> >i differ . I cannot do anything (except listen)with the radio on.

Cause i

> >end up " reading " the words so i can listen attentively, and

homework style

> >paperwork is impossible. Laundry is ok though.

>

> I can make bears or wash dishes or iron with the radio

> (or music) on, but not read or write.

nah <anonoymah@s...> wrote:

> I can't read or write with music on, either, but I can do anything

else (cleaning or anything like that I do better with music on) and I

can talk with music on but only if it's not important. If it's

important, I have trouble if the music is on, or if it's vocal music,

it's harder than with instrumental music.

>

For me it depends on the music, if I am familiar enough with it and it

isn't too loud then I can read / write with it provided that it's not

too difficult (obtuse language, trying to figure out stuff about

internal states/opinions). But I find it much easier to do stuff like

cleaning if I'm listening to the right music and there is no-one else

around (being in the right frame of mind helps too).

Jen

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At 10:07 PM 11/25/03, you wrote:

>I live not far from Bridgeport , in fact I knew Dan Gilbride, our

>friend, and miss him dearly.

>Seym.

>Uh, what is the welcome Packet and self advocation? I would be

>interested.

>

>

I miss Dan too and I wish he would have introduced us. Self Advocacy is

basically when people with developmental disabilities like us come together

to advocate for ourselves

with the help (but not leadership) of non disabled advisers or simply by

ourselves.

I run a mailing list on the internet called Self Advocates Speaking

Connecting OnLine where I wish to bring Self Advocates from across the

country to talk to each other and come up with ideas to help each other.

Hudson

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At 10:07 PM 11/25/03, you wrote:

>I live not far from Bridgeport , in fact I knew Dan Gilbride, our

>friend, and miss him dearly.

>Seym.

>Uh, what is the welcome Packet and self advocation? I would be

>interested.

This is a mailing list for Self Advocates and other adults and with

Developmental, Intellectual, Neurological or Learning Disabilities.

I am a Self Advocate from Connecticut who created this list because even

though there are alot of mailing lists for PARENTS of people like us, there

are'nt any mailing lists for Self Advocates and other Mentally or Learning

disabled people other than mailing lists created by Autistic People.

This list is open to people with Autism,

Asperger's Syndrome, Down Syndrome, Cerebral Palsy, Learning Disabilities,

Mental Handicaps, Spina Bifida & People in Special Olympics

This list is NOT OPEN to Parents or Professionals, at least for now,

because there are lots of lists for them. THIS LIST IF FOR US!! Please tell

any people that you know with disabilites about this list.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SelfAdvocates/

>

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