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[Guest guest]

I believe that what they're saying is the heart palps during

perimenopause are caused by the fluctuations of estradiol and low

progesterone. One speaker, Dr. Pamela W. , spoke of it

as " estrogen bouncing " . In her lecture, called " The Hormone

Symphony, " she also stated:

(1) that our hormone response is as unique as our fingerprints,

(2) estrogen has over 400 functions in the body,

(3) we even have E receptors in our eyes (protects against macular

degeneration and reduces the risk of cataracts),

(4) E increases the metabolic rate,

(5) it improves insulin receptivity,

(6) helps prevent muscle damage & helps maintain muscle,

(7) improves sleep,

(8) enhances magnesium uptake and utilization,

(9) decreases blood pressure,

(10) decreases LDL and prevents its oxidation,

(11) enhances the production of nerve-growth factor,

(12) increases HDL by 10-15% (E doesn't effect total cholesterol),

(13) reduces the overall risk of heart disease by 40-50%,

(14) decreases lipoprotein(a)--which statin drugs raise--lipoprotein

(a) causes inflammation,

(15) reduces homocysteine,

(16) decreases wrinkles (maintains the amount of collagen in the

skin),

(17) decreases risk of colon cancer,

(18) helps prevent tooth loss,

(19) aids in the formation of neurotransmitters in the brain such as

serotonin which decreases depression, irritability, anxiety and pain

sensitivity (estrogen=memory in women). It stimulates the production

of choline acetyltransferase, an enzyme which prevents Alzheimer's,

(20) that the Atkins Diet produces E excess

(21) estrone is the main estrogen the body makes postmenopausally,

(22) estriol is used in Europe to treat breast cancer instead of

Tamoxifen,

(23) estriol doesn't have the bone, heart or brain protection of E2,

(24) after menopause, the metabolism of estrogen can change;

consequently a woman may respond differently to estrogen replacement,

(25) when a woman has high homocysteine, there is trouble with

estrogen methylation (use methionine, DIM, B2, B6, B12, folic acid,

betaine and decrease stress to raise methylation). This lack of

methylation can also be measured in the urine.

(26) Premarin breaks down almost exclusively into 4-OH estrone

(27) estrogen metabolism is adversely effected by obesity,

xenoestrogens, alcohol and antibiotics.

(28) estrogen is a natural antioxidant (at this time she was speaking

of brain health and estrogen)

(29) estrogen increases manual speed and dexterity

(30) oral estrogen can increase blood pressure, increase

triglycerides, increase estrone, cause gallstones (what birth control

pills do), elevate liver enzymes, increase SHBG (decreases T),

interrupt tryptophan metabolism and consequently serotonin

metabolism, lower growth hormone, increase prothombic effects,

increase CRP, and increase carb cravings

(31) transdermally applied estrogen minimally increases SHBG unless

there is an overdose

Dr. had another lecture about PCOS and PMS. In it she stated

that after every pregnancy a woman's hormones re-set. She also said

that chocolate makes PMS worse (and caffeine, too)! She said if you

have a PMS headache, to rub some P where the headache is or take some

P four days before the headaches usually come. If you get cramps,

take fish oil (2000 mg) before your period comes. Smokers should take

no more than 8000 IU of Vit A a day. Women with breast cancer should

not do herbal therapies, and they should use estriol post-cancer to

bind to estrogen receptors (b/c if you don't use them, you'll lose

them). People who drink 5-8 glasses of water have fewer heart

attacks. Women deficient in Co-enzyme Q10 have an 800% increase in

breast cancer risk.

All of the speakers who mentioned magnesium recommended magnesium

glycerate for its absorbancy. They stated that digestive problems

from magnesium come from unabsorbed magnesium.

Dr. wrote a book called " HRT: The Answers " and two others. I

will probably buy it. She's such an interesting person!

Tomorrow I'll try to write what she said about progesterone.

Virginia

> >

> > Since E3 is a weaker estrogen and they haven't found

> > any cardiac effects of its use, it would help calm the heart by

> > diffusing estradiol's chance of being used by the receptors, and

> > estradiol definitely can cause heart palpitations.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Virginia,

Re: (25) when a woman has high homocysteine, there is trouble with

estrogen methylation (use methionine, DIM, B2, B6, B12, folic acid,

betaine and decrease stress to raise methylation). This lack of

methylation can also be measured in the urine.

what is homocysteine? I'm curious because my ND is using DIM for me to

decrease estrogen... what is estrogen mehtylation?

[Guest guest]

Virginia,

Thanks for sharing all this, it is very enlightening. No wonder we

'go to pot' after menopause.

>

> I believe that what they're saying is the heart palps during

> perimenopause are caused by the fluctuations of estradiol and low

> progesterone. One speaker, Dr. Pamela W. , spoke of it

> as " estrogen bouncing " . In her lecture, called " The Hormone

> Symphony, " she also stated:

> (1) that our hormone response is as unique as our fingerprints,

> (2) estrogen has over 400 functions in the body,

> (3) we even have E receptors in our eyes (protects against macular

> degeneration and reduces the risk of cataracts),

> (4) E increases the metabolic rate,

> (5) it improves insulin receptivity,

> (6) helps prevent muscle damage & helps maintain muscle,

> (7) improves sleep,

> (8) enhances magnesium uptake and utilization,

> (9) decreases blood pressure,

> (10) decreases LDL and prevents its oxidation,

> (11) enhances the production of nerve-growth factor,

> (12) increases HDL by 10-15% (E doesn't effect total cholesterol),

> (13) reduces the overall risk of heart disease by 40-50%,

> (14) decreases lipoprotein(a)--which statin drugs raise--lipoprotein

> (a) causes inflammation,

> (15) reduces homocysteine,

> (16) decreases wrinkles (maintains the amount of collagen in the

> skin),

> (17) decreases risk of colon cancer,

> (18) helps prevent tooth loss,

> (19) aids in the formation of neurotransmitters in the brain such as

> serotonin which decreases depression, irritability, anxiety and pain

> sensitivity (estrogen=memory in women). It stimulates the production

> of choline acetyltransferase, an enzyme which prevents Alzheimer's,

> (20) that the Atkins Diet produces E excess

> (21) estrone is the main estrogen the body makes postmenopausally,

> (22) estriol is used in Europe to treat breast cancer instead of

> Tamoxifen,

> (23) estriol doesn't have the bone, heart or brain protection of E2,

> (24) after menopause, the metabolism of estrogen can change;

> consequently a woman may respond differently to estrogen replacement,

> (25) when a woman has high homocysteine, there is trouble with

> estrogen methylation (use methionine, DIM, B2, B6, B12, folic acid,

> betaine and decrease stress to raise methylation). This lack of

> methylation can also be measured in the urine.

> (26) Premarin breaks down almost exclusively into 4-OH estrone

> (27) estrogen metabolism is adversely effected by obesity,

> xenoestrogens, alcohol and antibiotics.

> (28) estrogen is a natural antioxidant (at this time she was speaking

> of brain health and estrogen)

> (29) estrogen increases manual speed and dexterity

> (30) oral estrogen can increase blood pressure, increase

> triglycerides, increase estrone, cause gallstones (what birth control

> pills do), elevate liver enzymes, increase SHBG (decreases T),

> interrupt tryptophan metabolism and consequently serotonin

> metabolism, lower growth hormone, increase prothombic effects,

> increase CRP, and increase carb cravings

> (31) transdermally applied estrogen minimally increases SHBG unless

> there is an overdose

>

> Dr. had another lecture about PCOS and PMS. In it she stated

> that after every pregnancy a woman's hormones re-set. She also said

> that chocolate makes PMS worse (and caffeine, too)! She said if you

> have a PMS headache, to rub some P where the headache is or take some

> P four days before the headaches usually come. If you get cramps,

> take fish oil (2000 mg) before your period comes. Smokers should take

> no more than 8000 IU of Vit A a day. Women with breast cancer should

> not do herbal therapies, and they should use estriol post-cancer to

> bind to estrogen receptors (b/c if you don't use them, you'll lose

> them). People who drink 5-8 glasses of water have fewer heart

> attacks. Women deficient in Co-enzyme Q10 have an 800% increase in

> breast cancer risk.

>

> All of the speakers who mentioned magnesium recommended magnesium

> glycerate for its absorbancy. They stated that digestive problems

> from magnesium come from unabsorbed magnesium.

>

> Dr. wrote a book called " HRT: The Answers " and two others. I

> will probably buy it. She's such an interesting person!

>

> Tomorrow I'll try to write what she said about progesterone.

>

> Virginia

>

[Guest guest]

Virgina,

Did these speakers have anything to say regarding testosterone??

hb

> > >

> > > Since E3 is a weaker estrogen and they haven't found

> > > any cardiac effects of its use, it would help calm the heart by

> > > diffusing estradiol's chance of being used by the receptors,

and

> > > estradiol definitely can cause heart palpitations.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think that this kind of thinking on menopause has a negative placebo

effect on women’s health. (I don’t mean to criticize anyone personally, this

is a cultural problem in my mind) The ‘going to pot’ is caused by the poor

lifestyle and societal choices that developed world people have opted for:

excess food, no exercise, poor mental hygiene, low nutrients, bad fats, plus

all the environmental toxins we are exposed to.

Women the world over, had good health and less cancer etc. with much lower

levels of hormones than first world women. It’s a wonder that prepubescent

girls function at all! But most girls have higher academic scores prior to

puberty.

Rates of menopausal troubles are much less in less developing countries

according to a famous study of women around the world (I could find the

references if needed). There are no words for hot flashes in many languages!

And when asked about them, women don’t know what the researchers are talking

about.

Early in the 20th century western doctors did not regard menopause as a

medical problem. When women did have problems with the ‘change of life’ it

was associated with getting ‘too heavy’ and/or ‘hard living’ (aka booze)

(from a history of menopause called “hot and bothered” written by an

academic who wanted to study how attitudes towards menopause had changed in

the western world in the past couple of centuries. It is a respectable

academic study. Very good reading and has some fun facts such as French

women used to munch ovary sandwiches at midlife in the 1800s.)

Doctors resisted treating menopause until the 1940s. After feminine forever

was published the floodgates opened on hormone treatment with almost no

study of its safety or efficacy. I recommend reading Feminine Forever, this

book is most likely one of the most misogynistic pieces of literature ever

written (and I don’t say that lightly). There are some more recent books

written on the subject of women aging and hormones that remind me of it (not

just the Wily book either). They have become more subtle, but he underlying

messages are negative and anti woman.

I find myself becoming very critical of the negative attitudes towards aging

in North America. These negative attitudes take a toll on women and men’s

health through the above mentioned negative placebo effect.

Hormones metaphorically represent youth, male, female. I’m becoming

convinced that this is why the arguments for, and against, hormone use are

so very emotional and irrational.

Karima

Virginia, Thanks for sharing all this, it is very enlightening. No wonder

we 'go to pot' after menopause.

> I believe that what they're saying is the heart palps during perimenopause are

> caused by the fluctuations of estradiol and low progesterone. One speaker, Dr.

> Pamela W. , spoke of it as " estrogen bouncing " . In her lecture, called

> " The Hormone Symphony, " she also stated: (1) that our hormone response is as

> unique as our fingerprints, (2) estrogen has over 400 functions in the body,

> (3) we even have E receptors in our eyes (protects against macular

> degeneration and reduces the risk of cataracts), (4) E increases the metabolic

> rate, (5) it improves insulin receptivity, (6) helps prevent muscle damage &

> helps maintain muscle, (7) improves sleep, (8) enhances magnesium uptake and

> utilization, (9) decreases blood pressure, (10) decreases LDL and prevents its

> oxidation, (11) enhances the production of nerve-growth factor, (12) increases

> HDL by 10-15% (E doesn't effect total cholesterol), (13) reduces the overall

> risk of heart disease by 40-50%, (14) decreases lipoprotein(a)--which statin

> drugs raise--lipoprotein (a) causes inflammation, (15) reduces homocysteine,

> (16) decreases wrinkles (maintains the amount of collagen in the skin), (17)

> decreases risk of colon cancer, (18) helps prevent tooth loss, (19) aids in

> the formation of neurotransmitters in the brain such as serotonin which

> decreases depression, irritability, anxiety and pain sensitivity

> (estrogen=memory in women). It stimulates the production of choline

> acetyltransferase, an enzyme which prevents Alzheimer's, (20) that the Atkins

> Diet produces E excess (21) estrone is the main estrogen the body makes

> postmenopausally, (22) estriol is used in Europe to treat breast cancer

> instead of Tamoxifen, (23) estriol doesn't have the bone, heart or brain

> protection of E2, (24) after menopause, the metabolism of estrogen can change;

> consequently a woman may respond differently to estrogen replacement, (25)

> when a woman has high homocysteine, there is trouble with estrogen methylation

> (use methionine, DIM, B2, B6, B12, folic acid, betaine and decrease stress to

> raise methylation). This lack of methylation can also be measured in the

> urine. (26) Premarin breaks down almost exclusively into 4-OH estrone (27)

> estrogen metabolism is adversely effected by obesity, xenoestrogens, alcohol

> and antibiotics. (28) estrogen is a natural antioxidant (at this time she was

> speaking of brain health and estrogen) (29) estrogen increases manual speed

> and dexterity (30) oral estrogen can increase blood pressure, increase

> triglycerides, increase estrone, cause gallstones (what birth control pills

> do), elevate liver enzymes, increase SHBG (decreases T), interrupt tryptophan

> metabolism and consequently serotonin metabolism, lower growth hormone,

> increase prothombic effects, increase CRP, and increase carb cravings (31)

> transdermally applied estrogen minimally increases SHBG unless there is an

> overdose

>

> Dr. had another lecture about PCOS and PMS. In it she stated that after

> every pregnancy a woman's hormones re-set. She also said that chocolate makes

> PMS worse (and caffeine, too)! She said if you have a PMS headache, to rub

> some P where the headache is or take some P four days before the headaches

> usually come. If you get cramps, take fish oil (2000 mg) before your period

> comes. Smokers should take no more than 8000 IU of Vit A a day. Women with

> breast cancer should not do herbal therapies, and they should use estriol

> post-cancer to bind to estrogen receptors (b/c if you don't use them, you'll

> lose them). People who drink 5-8 glasses of water have fewer heart attacks.

> Women deficient in Co-enzyme Q10 have an 800% increase in breast cancer risk.

>

> All of the speakers who mentioned magnesium recommended magnesium glycerate

> for its absorbancy. They stated that digestive problems from magnesium come

> from unabsorbed magnesium.

>

> Dr. wrote a book called " HRT: The Answers " and two others. I will

> probably buy it. She's such an interesting person!

>

> Tomorrow I'll try to write what she said about progesterone.

>

> Virginia

>

[Guest guest]

>>All of the speakers who mentioned magnesium recommended magnesium

glycerate for its absorbancy. They stated that digestive problems

from magnesium come from unabsorbed magnesium.>>

It's magnesium glycinate, not glyerate. Sorry!

Virginia

[Guest guest]

Yes, they did, and I hope to be able to post some of what they said

eventually--they spoke on E, P, T, DHEA, cortisol, thyroid, breast

cancer, heart disease, COPD, and weight management....there is so

much information that I came out of the conference feeling like my

head would explode. Plus, they mentioned some good books to read; I

don't know how I'll ever find the time!

I was very surprised that some of these docs dose P at high levels,

like 40-60 mgs, transdermally. When some of us asked about it, they

said they want to bring the levels up to premenopausal luteal levels

(age 35)--but they're dosing menopausal women. We did not agree, but

they said their patients feel best on that level. I assume this is

for P and E.

Virginia

>

> Virgina,

>

> Did these speakers have anything to say regarding testosterone??

>

> hb

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not a chemist, so I don't know what methylation is, but it happens

during estrogen metabolism, if it happens correctly. Substances that

raise methylation are called methyl donors.

Homocysteine levels are indicators of cardiac health.

Virginia

>

[Guest guest]

thanks. i guess this explains more of why I'm taking DIM then!

> >

>