Re: Malpractice

[Guest guest]

With the very existence of chronic Lyme disease being denied by many establishments like medical boards, insurance companies, etc. and as it masquerades as so many other things, is so hard to accurately test for, other than clinically, running down a list of symptoms and totaling them up to an overwhelming conclusion, I think any sort of attempt to pursue legal satisfaction would only cost you time, vast amounts of money, and energy, which would be better spent simply getting on with healing your disease. Perhaps this might be morally satisfying, if you are a lawyer or have a devoted relative who's a top-notch lawyer: but even then, the stress of meetings, endless delays, constant fighting and depositions would tear down your own fragile health,and you would have 'severe anxiety' to the tenth power!Let it go and get on with taking responsibility for your own recovery: it's a far better investment.Be well,LénaHave any of you out there, that like most of us it took months/years to find our diagnosis (and were told that we're nuts), got the law involved for malpractice? I was wondering about getting lawyer involved, because it clearly says in all of my medical/emergency room records that "Mr. Curo has severe anxiety", and now I'm living with a chronic condition, that could've been prevented.

[Guest guest]

I agree with Lena.  We have all been where you are at, mistreated so many times by the medical field.This is big business (medicine, pharmaceuticals, bio-weapons, etc). Powers way beyond our control and the media are not on our side (remember how many commercials on t.v. and in magazines are for pharma drugs). This is a vs. Goliath battle. And while did win that battle, it was a different situation.

You will spend money, emotions and precious energy that you could use for getting healthier.  If it were me, and it has been, I quickly learned what doctors to trust and I moved on.If you need some understanding, I highly recommend the book, " Mistakes were made, but not by Me. " While not specifically about Lyme, he goes into detail about the corruption of the medical field. It is a fascinating read on the psychology of how we can justify about anything in our mind and how people use a certain mind technique to get people to do just about anything (including murder) and to feel that they did 'a good thing'. " Saving a greater harm " .  It really is an excellent book.

 

With the very existence of chronic Lyme disease being denied by many establishments like medical boards, insurance companies, etc. and as it masquerades as so many other things, is so hard to accurately test for, other than clinically, running down a list of symptoms and totaling them up to an overwhelming conclusion, I think any sort of attempt to pursue legal satisfaction would only cost you time, vast amounts of money, and energy, which would be better spent simply getting on with healing your disease. 

Perhaps this might be morally satisfying, if you are a lawyer or have a devoted relative who's a top-notch lawyer: but even then, the stress of meetings, endless delays, constant fighting and depositions would tear down your own fragile health,and you would have 'severe anxiety' to the tenth power!

Let it go and get on with taking responsibility for your own recovery: it's a far better investment.

Be well,Léna

Have any of you out there, that like most of us it took months/years to find our diagnosis (and were told that we're nuts), got the law involved for malpractice? I was wondering about getting lawyer involved, because it clearly says in all of my medical/emergency room records that " Mr. Curo has severe anxiety " , and now I'm living with a chronic condition, that could've been prevented.

[Guest guest]

I empathize completely. Went years misdiagnosed by neurologists, orthopedists (two unnecessary back surgeries- one major) and declined radically on a neuromuscular level. At this point, I feel the stress of malpractice suit would be more harmful than trying to get well, at least for me.

I'm just happy to finally know what is wrong, have my family on the path to wellness, and am staying involved in bringing awareness.

If you do decide malpractice, I wish you all the best. I think it'll be tough given the complexity of lyme. As my back surgeon called it "the black hole of medicine."

FWIW

Steve

To: Lyme_and_Rife From: 40dayjourney@...Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:57:21 -0700Subject: Re: Malpractice

I agree with Lena. We have all been where you are at, mistreated so many times by the medical field.This is big business (medicine, pharmaceuticals, bio-weapons, etc). Powers way beyond our control and the media are not on our side (remember how many commercials on t.v. and in magazines are for pharma drugs). This is a vs. Goliath battle. And while did win that battle, it was a different situation.You will spend money, emotions and precious energy that you could use for getting healthier. If it were me, and it has been, I quickly learned what doctors to trust and I moved on.If you need some understanding, I highly recommend the book, "Mistakes were made, but not by Me." While not specifically about Lyme, he goes into detail about the corruption of the medical field. It is a fascinating read on the psychology of how we can justify about anything in our mind and how people use a certain mind technique to get people to do just about anything (including murder) and to feel that they did 'a good thing'. "Saving a greater harm". It really is an excellent book.

With the very existence of chronic Lyme disease being denied by many establishments like medical boards, insurance companies, etc. and as it masquerades as so many other things, is so hard to accurately test for, other than clinically, running down a list of symptoms and totaling them up to an overwhelming conclusion, I think any sort of attempt to pursue legal satisfaction would only cost you time, vast amounts of money, and energy, which would be better spent simply getting on with healing your disease.

Perhaps this might be morally satisfying, if you are a lawyer or have a devoted relative who's a top-notch lawyer: but even then, the stress of meetings, endless delays, constant fighting and depositions would tear down your own fragile health,and you would have 'severe anxiety' to the tenth power!

Let it go and get on with taking responsibility for your own recovery: it's a far better investment.

Be well,

Léna

Have any of you out there, that like most of us it took months/years to find our diagnosis (and were told that we're nuts), got the law involved for malpractice? I was wondering about getting lawyer involved, because it clearly says in all of my medical/emergency room records that "Mr. Curo has severe anxiety", and now I'm living with a chronic condition, that could've been prevented.

[Guest guest]

I'm looking into a lawsuit, an emergency room doctor put me in the psych. ward due to non-healing skin lesions and fears my parents had about them. Even after she called a mental health care worker whom suggested Lyme disease. I was diagnosed a month later. One attorney said what she did was illegal, but that I didn't have enough losses financially for it to be worth my while. I'm going to get some other opinions.Aandraya I empathize completely. Went years misdiagnosed by neurologists, orthopedists (two unnecessary back surgeries- one major) and declined radically on a neuromuscular level. At this point, I feel the stress of malpractice suit would be more harmful than trying to get well, at least for me. I'm just happy to finally know what is wrong, have my family on the path to wellness, and am staying involved in bringing awareness. If you do decide malpractice, I wish you all the best. I think it'll be tough given the complexity of lyme. As my back surgeon called it "the black hole of medicine." FWIW Steve To: Lyme_and_Rife From: 40dayjourney@...Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:57:21 -0700Subject: Re: Malpractice I agree with Lena. We have all been where you are at, mistreated so many times by the medical field.This is big business (medicine, pharmaceuticals, bio-weapons, etc). Powers way beyond our control and the media are not on our side (remember how many commercials on t.v. and in magazines are for pharma drugs). This is a vs. Goliath battle. And while did win that battle, it was a different situation.You will spend money, emotions and precious energy that you could use for getting healthier. If it were me, and it has been, I quickly learned what doctors to trust and I moved on.If you need some understanding, I highly recommend the book, "Mistakes were made, but not by Me." While not specifically about Lyme, he goes into detail about the corruption of the medical field. It is a fascinating read on the psychology of how we can justify about anything in our mind and how people use a certain mind technique to get people to do just about anything (including murder) and to feel that they did 'a good thing'. "Saving a greater harm". It really is an excellent book. With the very existence of chronic Lyme disease being denied by many establishments like medical boards, insurance companies, etc. and as it masquerades as so many other things, is so hard to accurately test for, other than clinically, running down a list of symptoms and totaling them up to an overwhelming conclusion, I think any sort of attempt to pursue legal satisfaction would only cost you time, vast amounts of money, and energy, which would be better spent simply getting on with healing your disease. Perhaps this might be morally satisfying, if you are a lawyer or have a devoted relative who's a top-notch lawyer: but even then, the stress of meetings, endless delays, constant fighting and depositions would tear down your own fragile health,and you would have 'severe anxiety' to the tenth power! Let it go and get on with taking responsibility for your own recovery: it's a far better investment. Be well, Léna Have any of you out there, that like most of us it took months/years to find our diagnosis (and were told that we're nuts), got the law involved for malpractice? I was wondering about getting lawyer involved, because it clearly says in all of my medical/emergency room records that "Mr. Curo has severe anxiety", and now I'm living with a chronic condition, that could've been prevented.

[Guest guest]

Hi Aandraya,Well, all I can add is that if you didn't have enough financial losses from the original incident, embarking upon a lawsuit will certainly provide you with them: in lawyers' fees. Even if you were lucky enough to find some lawyer who would work on a contingency basis, you'd still have an incredible helping of stress, which for Lyme, could be more destructive than the original incedent as well. If you're hoping for some sort of windfall in a legal settlement, you'd probably have more luck going to Vegas and playing black-jack. LénaI'm looking into a lawsuit, an emergency room doctor put me in the psych. ward due to non-healing skin lesions and fears my parents had about them. Even after she called a mental health care worker whom suggested Lyme disease. I was diagnosed a month later. One attorney said what she did was illegal, but that I didn't have enough losses financially for it to be worth my while. I'm going to get some other opinions.Aandraya I empathize completely. Went years misdiagnosed by neurologists, orthopedists (two unnecessary back surgeries- one major) and declined radically on a neuromuscular level. At this point, I feel the stress of malpractice suit would be more harmful than trying to get well, at least for me. I'm just happy to finally know what is wrong, have my family on the path to wellness, and am staying involved in bringing awareness. If you do decide malpractice, I wish you all the best. I think it'll be tough given the complexity of lyme. As my back surgeon called it "the black hole of medicine." FWIWSteve To: Lyme_and_Rife From: 40dayjourney@...Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:57:21 -0700Subject: Re: Malpractice I agree with Lena. We have all been where you are at, mistreated so many times by the medical field.This is big business (medicine, pharmaceuticals, bio-weapons, etc). Powers way beyond our control and the media are not on our side (remember how many commercials on t.v. and in magazines are for pharma drugs). This is a vs. Goliath battle. And while did win that battle, it was a different situation.You will spend money, emotions and precious energy that you could use for getting healthier. If it were me, and it has been, I quickly learned what doctors to trust and I moved on.If you need some understanding, I highly recommend the book, "Mistakes were made, but not by Me." While not specifically about Lyme, he goes into detail about the corruption of the medical field. It is a fascinating read on the psychology of how we can justify about anything in our mind and how people use a certain mind technique to get people to do just about anything (including murder) and to feel that they did 'a good thing'. "Saving a greater harm". It really is an excellent book. With the very existence of chronic Lyme disease being denied by many establishments like medical boards, insurance companies, etc. and as it masquerades as so many other things, is so hard to accurately test for, other than clinically, running down a list of symptoms and totaling them up to an overwhelming conclusion, I think any sort of attempt to pursue legal satisfaction would only cost you time, vast amounts of money, and energy, which would be better spent simply getting on with healing your disease. Perhaps this might be morally satisfying, if you are a lawyer or have a devoted relative who's a top-notch lawyer: but even then, the stress of meetings, endless delays, constant fighting and depositions would tear down your own fragile health,and you would have 'severe anxiety' to the tenth power!Let it go and get on with taking responsibility for your own recovery: it's a far better investment.Be well,LénaHave any of you out there, that like most of us it took months/years to find our diagnosis (and were told that we're nuts), got the law involved for malpractice? I was wondering about getting lawyer involved, because it clearly says in all of my medical/emergency room records that "Mr. Curo has severe anxiety", and now I'm living with a chronic condition, that could've been prevented.

[Guest guest]

Aandraya,What happened to you was wrong and worthy of malpractice. I am glad, however, that you are going another route. The legal system in this country is made up of a good ol' boys network and you may have what you'd consider a rock solid case and amazingly you'll most likely loose.

Last year my husband and I went after a division of the school district.  We had a rock solid case, so much so it should have been settled before court. Anyway, we ended up in court.  My husband, myself and our son were not allowed to speak.  The school's attorney out right lied, and it was said and done in a matter of moments - along with an evil glare from the judge. We were speechless. Our son learned that lying pays off - great.

I had so many similar experiences in court when my parents were going through a divorce; someone was being paid off. It was just too obvious.Last summer my husband and I purchased a small home. The inspector did a poor job, and the home owner lied on his disclosure form.  We went to re-roof the house a month after purchase, and found all kinds of mold and rotted roof joists that the owner had nailed good wood to bad - he knew about the rot.  We sought the advise of an attorney who told us we had less than a 50% chance of winning, then we'd have to try and collect if we won - the people could simply go bankrupt. We paid the attorney $600 for his time and decided not to waste our time, money and emotion.  I agree with Lena - we'd do better in vegas. In the meantime, the repairs on this home will be in the range of $20-30k.

Spend your money and emotion on getting well. (just my humble opinion -take it or leave it. Only you know the full details of your story.)

 

Hi Aandraya,Well, all I can add is that if you didn't have enough financial losses from the original incident, embarking upon a lawsuit will certainly provide you with them: in lawyers' fees. Even if you were lucky enough to find some lawyer who would work on a contingency basis,  you'd still have an incredible helping of stress, which for Lyme, could be more destructive than the original incedent as well. If you're hoping for some sort of windfall in a legal settlement, you'd probably have more luck going to Vegas and playing black-jack. Léna

I'm  looking into a lawsuit, an emergency room doctor put me in the psych. ward due to non-healing skin lesions and fears my parents had about them.  Even after she called a mental health care worker whom suggested Lyme disease.  I was diagnosed a month later.  One attorney said what she did was illegal, but that I didn't have enough losses financially for it to be worth my while.  I'm going to get some other opinions.

Aandraya I empathize completely.  Went years misdiagnosed by neurologists, orthopedists (two unnecessary back surgeries- one major) and declined radically on a neuromuscular level.  At this point, I feel the stress of malpractice suit would be more harmful than trying to get well, at least for me.  

 I'm just happy to finally know what is wrong, have my family on the path to wellness, and am staying involved in bringing awareness.   If you do decide malpractice, I wish you all the best.  I think it'll be tough given the complexity of lyme.  As my back surgeon called it " the black hole of medicine. "   

FWIWSteve To: Lyme_and_Rife From: 40dayjourney@...

Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:57:21 -0700Subject: Re: Malpractice I agree with Lena.  We have all been where you are at, mistreated so many times by the medical field.

This is big business (medicine, pharmaceuticals, bio-weapons, etc). Powers way beyond our control and the media are not on our side (remember how many commercials on t.v. and in magazines are for pharma drugs). This is a vs. Goliath battle. And while did win that battle, it was a different situation.

You will spend money, emotions and precious energy that you could use for getting healthier.  If it were me, and it has been, I quickly learned what doctors to trust and I moved on.If you need some understanding, I highly recommend the book, " Mistakes were made, but not by Me. " While not specifically about Lyme, he goes into detail about the corruption of the medical field. It is a fascinating read on the psychology of how we can justify about anything in our mind and how people use a certain mind technique to get people to do just about anything (including murder) and to feel that they did 'a good thing'. " Saving a greater harm " .  It really is an excellent book.

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Guyot Léna  wrote:

 With the very existence of chronic Lyme disease being denied by many establishments like medical boards, insurance companies, etc. and as it masquerades as so many other things, is so hard to accurately test for, other than clinically, running down a list of symptoms and totaling them up to an overwhelming conclusion, I think any sort of attempt to pursue legal satisfaction would only cost you time, vast amounts of money, and energy, which would be better spent simply getting on with healing your disease. 

Perhaps this might be morally satisfying, if you are a lawyer or have a devoted relative who's a top-notch lawyer: but even then, the stress of meetings, endless delays, constant fighting and depositions would tear down your own fragile health,and you would have 'severe anxiety' to the tenth power!

Let it go and get on with taking responsibility for your own recovery: it's a far better investment.

Be well,Léna

Have any of you out there, that like most of us it took months/years to find our diagnosis (and were told that we're nuts), got the law involved for malpractice? I was wondering about getting lawyer involved, because it clearly says in all of my medical/emergency room records that " Mr. Curo has severe anxiety " , and now I'm living with a chronic condition, that could've been prevented.

[Guest guest]

Sorry that happened. I'm not letting myself get discouraged. Even if I lose the case I know it will make a difference. Anything is possible.

Aandraya,What happened to you was wrong and worthy of malpractice. I am glad, however, that you are going another route. The legal system in this country is made up of a good ol' boys network and you may have what you'd consider a rock solid case and amazingly you'll most likely loose.

Last year my husband and I went after a division of the school district. We had a rock solid case, so much so it should have been settled before court. Anyway, we ended up in court. My husband, myself and our son were not allowed to speak. The school's attorney out right lied, and it was said and done in a matter of moments - along with an evil glare from the judge. We were speechless. Our son learned that lying pays off - great.

I had so many similar experiences in court when my parents were going through a divorce; someone was being paid off. It was just too obvious.Last summer my husband and I purchased a small home. The inspector did a poor job, and the home owner lied on his disclosure form. We went to re-roof the house a month after purchase, and found all kinds of mold and rotted roof joists that the owner had nailed good wood to bad - he knew about the rot. We sought the advise of an attorney who told us we had less than a 50% chance of winning, then we'd have to try and collect if we won - the people could simply go bankrupt. We paid the attorney $600 for his time and decided not to waste our time, money and emotion. I agree with Lena - we'd do better in vegas. In the meantime, the repairs on this home will be in the range of $20-30k.

Spend your money and emotion on getting well. (just my humble opinion -take it or leave it. Only you know the full details of your story.)

Hi Aandraya,Well, all I can add is that if you didn't have enough financial losses from the original incident, embarking upon a lawsuit will certainly provide you with them: in lawyers' fees. Even if you were lucky enough to find some lawyer who would work on a contingency basis, you'd still have an incredible helping of stress, which for Lyme, could be more destructive than the original incedent as well. If you're hoping for some sort of windfall in a legal settlement, you'd probably have more luck going to Vegas and playing black-jack. Léna

I'm looking into a lawsuit, an emergency room doctor put me in the psych. ward due to non-healing skin lesions and fears my parents had about them. Even after she called a mental health care worker whom suggested Lyme disease. I was diagnosed a month later. One attorney said what she did was illegal, but that I didn't have enough losses financially for it to be worth my while. I'm going to get some other opinions.

Aandraya I empathize completely. Went years misdiagnosed by neurologists, orthopedists (two unnecessary back surgeries- one major) and declined radically on a neuromuscular level. At this point, I feel the stress of malpractice suit would be more harmful than trying to get well, at least for me.

I'm just happy to finally know what is wrong, have my family on the path to wellness, and am staying involved in bringing awareness. If you do decide malpractice, I wish you all the best. I think it'll be tough given the complexity of lyme. As my back surgeon called it "the black hole of medicine."

FWIWSteve To: Lyme_and_Rife From: 40dayjourney@...

Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:57:21 -0700Subject: Re: Malpractice I agree with Lena. We have all been where you are at, mistreated so many times by the medical field.

This is big business (medicine, pharmaceuticals, bio-weapons, etc). Powers way beyond our control and the media are not on our side (remember how many commercials on t.v. and in magazines are for pharma drugs). This is a vs. Goliath battle. And while did win that battle, it was a different situation.

You will spend money, emotions and precious energy that you could use for getting healthier. If it were me, and it has been, I quickly learned what doctors to trust and I moved on.If you need some understanding, I highly recommend the book, "Mistakes were made, but not by Me." While not specifically about Lyme, he goes into detail about the corruption of the medical field. It is a fascinating read on the psychology of how we can justify about anything in our mind and how people use a certain mind technique to get people to do just about anything (including murder) and to feel that they did 'a good thing'. "Saving a greater harm". It really is an excellent book.

With the very existence of chronic Lyme disease being denied by many establishments like medical boards, insurance companies, etc. and as it masquerades as so many other things, is so hard to accurately test for, other than clinically, running down a list of symptoms and totaling them up to an overwhelming conclusion, I think any sort of attempt to pursue legal satisfaction would only cost you time, vast amounts of money, and energy, which would be better spent simply getting on with healing your disease.

Perhaps this might be morally satisfying, if you are a lawyer or have a devoted relative who's a top-notch lawyer: but even then, the stress of meetings, endless delays, constant fighting and depositions would tear down your own fragile health,and you would have 'severe anxiety' to the tenth power!

Let it go and get on with taking responsibility for your own recovery: it's a far better investment.

Be well,Léna

Have any of you out there, that like most of us it took months/years to find our diagnosis (and were told that we're nuts), got the law involved for malpractice? I was wondering about getting lawyer involved, because it clearly says in all of my medical/emergency room records that "Mr. Curo has severe anxiety", and now I'm living with a chronic condition, that could've been prevented.

[Guest guest]

I am not angry about it anymore either, made sure I waited long enough so that I'm not attached to any outcome. The case isn't about me anymore, I am going to pursue it.

Aandraya,What happened to you was wrong and worthy of malpractice. I am glad, however, that you are going another route. The legal system in this country is made up of a good ol' boys network and you may have what you'd consider a rock solid case and amazingly you'll most likely loose.

Last year my husband and I went after a division of the school district. We had a rock solid case, so much so it should have been settled before court. Anyway, we ended up in court. My husband, myself and our son were not allowed to speak. The school's attorney out right lied, and it was said and done in a matter of moments - along with an evil glare from the judge. We were speechless. Our son learned that lying pays off - great.

I had so many similar experiences in court when my parents were going through a divorce; someone was being paid off. It was just too obvious.Last summer my husband and I purchased a small home. The inspector did a poor job, and the home owner lied on his disclosure form. We went to re-roof the house a month after purchase, and found all kinds of mold and rotted roof joists that the owner had nailed good wood to bad - he knew about the rot. We sought the advise of an attorney who told us we had less than a 50% chance of winning, then we'd have to try and collect if we won - the people could simply go bankrupt. We paid the attorney $600 for his time and decided not to waste our time, money and emotion. I agree with Lena - we'd do better in vegas. In the meantime, the repairs on this home will be in the range of $20-30k.

Spend your money and emotion on getting well. (just my humble opinion -take it or leave it. Only you know the full details of your story.)

Hi Aandraya,Well, all I can add is that if you didn't have enough financial losses from the original incident, embarking upon a lawsuit will certainly provide you with them: in lawyers' fees. Even if you were lucky enough to find some lawyer who would work on a contingency basis, you'd still have an incredible helping of stress, which for Lyme, could be more destructive than the original incedent as well. If you're hoping for some sort of windfall in a legal settlement, you'd probably have more luck going to Vegas and playing black-jack. Léna

I'm looking into a lawsuit, an emergency room doctor put me in the psych. ward due to non-healing skin lesions and fears my parents had about them. Even after she called a mental health care worker whom suggested Lyme disease. I was diagnosed a month later. One attorney said what she did was illegal, but that I didn't have enough losses financially for it to be worth my while. I'm going to get some other opinions.

Aandraya I empathize completely. Went years misdiagnosed by neurologists, orthopedists (two unnecessary back surgeries- one major) and declined radically on a neuromuscular level. At this point, I feel the stress of malpractice suit would be more harmful than trying to get well, at least for me.

I'm just happy to finally know what is wrong, have my family on the path to wellness, and am staying involved in bringing awareness. If you do decide malpractice, I wish you all the best. I think it'll be tough given the complexity of lyme. As my back surgeon called it "the black hole of medicine."

FWIWSteve To: Lyme_and_Rife From: 40dayjourney@...

Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:57:21 -0700Subject: Re: Malpractice I agree with Lena. We have all been where you are at, mistreated so many times by the medical field.

This is big business (medicine, pharmaceuticals, bio-weapons, etc). Powers way beyond our control and the media are not on our side (remember how many commercials on t.v. and in magazines are for pharma drugs). This is a vs. Goliath battle. And while did win that battle, it was a different situation.

You will spend money, emotions and precious energy that you could use for getting healthier. If it were me, and it has been, I quickly learned what doctors to trust and I moved on.If you need some understanding, I highly recommend the book, "Mistakes were made, but not by Me." While not specifically about Lyme, he goes into detail about the corruption of the medical field. It is a fascinating read on the psychology of how we can justify about anything in our mind and how people use a certain mind technique to get people to do just about anything (including murder) and to feel that they did 'a good thing'. "Saving a greater harm". It really is an excellent book.

With the very existence of chronic Lyme disease being denied by many establishments like medical boards, insurance companies, etc. and as it masquerades as so many other things, is so hard to accurately test for, other than clinically, running down a list of symptoms and totaling them up to an overwhelming conclusion, I think any sort of attempt to pursue legal satisfaction would only cost you time, vast amounts of money, and energy, which would be better spent simply getting on with healing your disease.

Perhaps this might be morally satisfying, if you are a lawyer or have a devoted relative who's a top-notch lawyer: but even then, the stress of meetings, endless delays, constant fighting and depositions would tear down your own fragile health,and you would have 'severe anxiety' to the tenth power!

Let it go and get on with taking responsibility for your own recovery: it's a far better investment.

Be well,Léna

Have any of you out there, that like most of us it took months/years to find our diagnosis (and were told that we're nuts), got the law involved for malpractice? I was wondering about getting lawyer involved, because it clearly says in all of my medical/emergency room records that "Mr. Curo has severe anxiety", and now I'm living with a chronic condition, that could've been prevented.

[Guest guest]

Yes, you are right 'anything is possible'.  I hope the best for you and you will have nothing but support from this group whatever path you take. It always helps to learn of others' experiences so that you can make an informed decision. Hopefully, it will make it easier for you to go forward.

 

Sorry that happened.  I'm not letting myself get discouraged.  Even if I lose the case I know it will make a difference.  Anything is possible.

 

Aandraya,What happened to you was wrong and worthy of malpractice. I am glad, however, that you are going another route. The legal system in this country is made up of a good ol' boys network and you may have what you'd consider a rock solid case and amazingly you'll most likely loose.

Last year my husband and I went after a division of the school district.  We had a rock solid case, so much so it should have been settled before court. Anyway, we ended up in court.  My husband, myself and our son were not allowed to speak.  The school's attorney out right lied, and it was said and done in a matter of moments - along with an evil glare from the judge. We were speechless. Our son learned that lying pays off - great.

I had so many similar experiences in court when my parents were going through a divorce; someone was being paid off. It was just too obvious.Last summer my husband and I purchased a small home. The inspector did a poor job, and the home owner lied on his disclosure form.  We went to re-roof the house a month after purchase, and found all kinds of mold and rotted roof joists that the owner had nailed good wood to bad - he knew about the rot.  We sought the advise of an attorney who told us we had less than a 50% chance of winning, then we'd have to try and collect if we won - the people could simply go bankrupt. We paid the attorney $600 for his time and decided not to waste our time, money and emotion.  I agree with Lena - we'd do better in vegas. In the meantime, the repairs on this home will be in the range of $20-30k.

Spend your money and emotion on getting well. (just my humble opinion -take it or leave it. Only you know the full details of your story.)

 

Hi Aandraya,Well, all I can add is that if you didn't have enough financial losses from the original incident, embarking upon a lawsuit will certainly provide you with them: in lawyers' fees. Even if you were lucky enough to find some lawyer who would work on a contingency basis,  you'd still have an incredible helping of stress, which for Lyme, could be more destructive than the original incedent as well. If you're hoping for some sort of windfall in a legal settlement, you'd probably have more luck going to Vegas and playing black-jack. Léna

I'm  looking into a lawsuit, an emergency room doctor put me in the psych. ward due to non-healing skin lesions and fears my parents had about them.  Even after she called a mental health care worker whom suggested Lyme disease.  I was diagnosed a month later.  One attorney said what she did was illegal, but that I didn't have enough losses financially for it to be worth my while.  I'm going to get some other opinions.

Aandraya I empathize completely.  Went years misdiagnosed by neurologists, orthopedists (two unnecessary back surgeries- one major) and declined radically on a neuromuscular level.  At this point, I feel the stress of malpractice suit would be more harmful than trying to get well, at least for me.  

 I'm just happy to finally know what is wrong, have my family on the path to wellness, and am staying involved in bringing awareness.   If you do decide malpractice, I wish you all the best.  I think it'll be tough given the complexity of lyme.  As my back surgeon called it " the black hole of medicine. "   

FWIWSteve To: Lyme_and_Rife

From: 40dayjourney@...

Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:57:21 -0700Subject: Re: Malpractice I agree with Lena.  We have all been where you are at, mistreated so many times by the medical field.

This is big business (medicine, pharmaceuticals, bio-weapons, etc). Powers way beyond our control and the media are not on our side (remember how many commercials on t.v. and in magazines are for pharma drugs). This is a vs. Goliath battle. And while did win that battle, it was a different situation.

You will spend money, emotions and precious energy that you could use for getting healthier.  If it were me, and it has been, I quickly learned what doctors to trust and I moved on.If you need some understanding, I highly recommend the book, " Mistakes were made, but not by Me. " While not specifically about Lyme, he goes into detail about the corruption of the medical field. It is a fascinating read on the psychology of how we can justify about anything in our mind and how people use a certain mind technique to get people to do just about anything (including murder) and to feel that they did 'a good thing'. " Saving a greater harm " .  It really is an excellent book.

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Guyot Léna  wrote:

 With the very existence of chronic Lyme disease being denied by many establishments like medical boards, insurance companies, etc. and as it masquerades as so many other things, is so hard to accurately test for, other than clinically, running down a list of symptoms and totaling them up to an overwhelming conclusion, I think any sort of attempt to pursue legal satisfaction would only cost you time, vast amounts of money, and energy, which would be better spent simply getting on with healing your disease. 

Perhaps this might be morally satisfying, if you are a lawyer or have a devoted relative who's a top-notch lawyer: but even then, the stress of meetings, endless delays, constant fighting and depositions would tear down your own fragile health,and you would have 'severe anxiety' to the tenth power!

Let it go and get on with taking responsibility for your own recovery: it's a far better investment.

Be well,Léna

Have any of you out there, that like most of us it took months/years to find our diagnosis (and were told that we're nuts), got the law involved for malpractice? I was wondering about getting lawyer involved, because it clearly says in all of my medical/emergency room records that " Mr. Curo has severe anxiety " , and now I'm living with a chronic condition, that could've been prevented.

[Guest guest]

I agree with Lena. I think most of us are in the same boat. It took years for

me to get a diagnosis and you really can't blame the doctors for not knowing

anything about Lyme, because they are only doing what they are taught. The IDSA

sets the policy for treating Lyme and though their policy is way off base, that

is what the doctors go by unless they have been in the trenches a long time and

have seen chronic Lyme not responding to antibiotic therapy. Chances are you

would have to go after the IDSA for their misguided policy.

I even went to alternative practitioners who missed my diagnosis. It was only

by pure luck that I stumbled on a doctor that was Lyme literate, but this was

after years of no answers. My niece died from what I suspect was Lyme and went

to many doctors who diagnosed her as having the worst case of clinical

depression they had ever seen. She was light sensitive, ended up in a wheel

chair as she had such pain in her limbs that she could barely raise her arms,

yet no one suspected Lyme. She told the doctors that she thought she had

Chronic Fatigue syndrome and Fibromyalgia and they thought it was all in her

head and they would not listen. She had all of the classic symptoms of Lyme.

This was years before I knew anything about Lyme other then it could be treated

by antibiotics and that it caused arthritis. My niece took an overdose of

sleeping pills one day and never woke up, she was only 30 years old, but she was

tired of being told that it was all in her head. She went from being a girl

with a degree in exercise physiology, who ran marithons played golf, enjoyed the

outdoors and running an Aerobics program in a big corporation to being

bedridden, unable to get out of bed to even go to the bathroom on her own.

Winning a malpractice suit would have felt good, but who do you go after, every

practitioner that ever misdiagnosed her and then how do you prove it was Lyme

postmortem?

Lyme is not an easy disease to diagnose as the tests are not accurate and the

symptom picture of Lyme can match so many other diseases. That is why Lyme is

called the great imitator. The problem is, there is no real cure for Lyme in

the Allopathic community and it doesn't matter if you were diagnosed in the

Acute stages or the Chronic stage of the disease, chances are what the regular

medical establishment would do would not have caused your total remission

anyway. Allopathic medicine is about symptom management not cure. Just look at

J Fox who had been treated with abx for Lyme. I believe his Parkenson's

is actually Lyme and he just doesn't know it.

I think as Lena said time is better served taking charge of your own health,

knowing that no doctor is going to fix you. Stay positive and know that you can

get well even if you have Chronic Lyme. Stumbling on Rife was the best thing

that could have happened to me as now I am past Lyme for the most part.

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> records that " Mr. Curo has severe anxiety " , and now I'm living with a

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Maybe you can find an attorney that will take the case based on a percentage of

the settlement that way you don't have so much in out of pocket expenses, unless

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[Guest guest]

if you decide not to, it may help emptionally to still file a complaint with the state medical boards or if you think it was fraud the fbi. That way it might discourage the practice from happening again.To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Sat, April 9, 2011 10:11:49 AMSubject: Re: Malpractice

Yes, you are right 'anything is possible'. I hope the best for you and you will have nothing but support from this group whatever path you take. It always helps to learn of others' experiences so that you can make an informed decision. Hopefully, it will make it easier for you to go forward.

Sorry that happened. I'm not letting myself get discouraged. Even if I lose the case I know it will make a difference. Anything is possible.

Aandraya,What happened to you was wrong and worthy of malpractice. I am glad, however, that you are going another route. The legal system in this country is made up of a good ol' boys network and you may have what you'd consider a rock solid case and amazingly you'll most likely loose.

Last year my husband and I went after a division of the school district. We had a rock solid case, so much so it should have been settled before court. Anyway, we ended up in court. My husband, myself and our son were not allowed to speak. The school's attorney out right lied, and it was said and done in a matter of moments - along with an evil glare from the judge. We were speechless. Our son learned that lying pays off - great.

I had so many similar experiences in court when my parents were going through a divorce; someone was being paid off. It was just too obvious.Last summer my husband and I purchased a small home. The inspector did a poor job, and the home owner lied on his disclosure form. We went to re-roof the house a month after purchase, and found all kinds of mold and rotted roof joists that the owner had nailed good wood to bad - he knew about the rot. We sought the advise of an attorney who told us we had less than a 50% chance of winning, then we'd have to try and collect if we won - the people could simply go bankrupt. We paid the attorney $600 for his time and decided not to waste our time, money and emotion. I agree with Lena - we'd do better in vegas. In the meantime, the repairs on this home will be in the range of $20-30k.

Spend your money and emotion on getting well. (just my humble opinion -take it or leave it. Only you know the full details of your story.)

Hi Aandraya,Well, all I can add is that if you didn't have enough financial losses from the original incident, embarking upon a lawsuit will certainly provide you with them: in lawyers' fees. Even if you were lucky enough to find some lawyer who would work on a contingency basis, you'd still have an incredible helping of stress, which for Lyme, could be more destructive than the original incedent as well. If you're hoping for some sort of windfall in a legal settlement, you'd probably have more luck going to Vegas and playing black-jack. Léna

I'm looking into a lawsuit, an emergency room doctor put me in the psych. ward due to non-healing skin lesions and fears my parents had about them. Even after she called a mental health care worker whom suggested Lyme disease. I was diagnosed a month later. One attorney said what she did was illegal, but that I didn't have enough losses financially for it to be worth my while. I'm going to get some other opinions.

Aandraya I empathize completely. Went years misdiagnosed by neurologists, orthopedists (two unnecessary back surgeries- one major) and declined radically on a neuromuscular level. At this point, I feel the stress of malpractice suit would be more harmful than trying to get well, at least for me.

I'm just happy to finally know what is wrong, have my family on the path to wellness, and am staying involved in bringing awareness. If you do decide malpractice, I wish you all the best. I think it'll be tough given the complexity of lyme. As my back surgeon called it "the black hole of medicine."

FWIWSteve To: Lyme_and_Rife

From: 40dayjourney@...

Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 07:57:21 -0700Subject: Re: Malpractice I agree with Lena. We have all been where you are at, mistreated so many times by the medical field.

This is big business (medicine, pharmaceuticals, bio-weapons, etc). Powers way beyond our control and the media are not on our side (remember how many commercials on t.v. and in magazines are for pharma drugs). This is a vs. Goliath battle. And while did win that battle, it was a different situation.

You will spend money, emotions and precious energy that you could use for getting healthier. If it were me, and it has been, I quickly learned what doctors to trust and I moved on.If you need some understanding, I highly recommend the book, "Mistakes were made, but not by Me." While not specifically about Lyme, he goes into detail about the corruption of the medical field. It is a fascinating read on the psychology of how we can justify about anything in our mind and how people use a certain mind technique to get people to do just about anything (including murder) and to feel that they did 'a good thing'. "Saving a greater harm". It really is an excellent book.

With the very existence of chronic Lyme disease being denied by many establishments like medical boards, insurance companies, etc. and as it masquerades as so many other things, is so hard to accurately test for, other than clinically, running down a list of symptoms and totaling them up to an overwhelming conclusion, I think any sort of attempt to pursue legal satisfaction would only cost you time, vast amounts of money, and energy, which would be better spent simply getting on with healing your disease.

Perhaps this might be morally satisfying, if you are a lawyer or have a devoted relative who's a top-notch lawyer: but even then, the stress of meetings, endless delays, constant fighting and depositions would tear down your own fragile health,and you would have 'severe anxiety' to the tenth power!

Let it go and get on with taking responsibility for your own recovery: it's a far better investment.

Be well,Léna

Have any of you out there, that like most of us it took months/years to find our diagnosis (and were told that we're nuts), got the law involved for malpractice? I was wondering about getting lawyer involved, because it clearly says in all of my medical/emergency room records that "Mr. Curo has severe anxiety", and now I'm living with a chronic condition, that could've been prevented.

[Guest guest]

Hi Aandraya,

Please don't feel too badly about the psych evaluation, this is so common

with Lyme... Not that there are any psych issues, just that many doctors

completely misunderstand Lyme and thus label some with Lyme as a

psych issue, which is totally incorrect..

There will come a day that the ignorance of chronic Lyme will be much less

in the medical community, until then we just have to speak up and stick

up for ourselves..

Take care,

Jim

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> Have any of you out there, that like most of us it took months/years

> to find our diagnosis (and were told that we're nuts), got the law

> involved for malpractice? I was wondering about getting lawyer

> involved, because it clearly says in all of my medical/emergency room

> records that " Mr. Curo has severe anxiety " , and now I'm living with a

> chronic condition, that could've been prevented.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jody,

Your thinking sounds very logical and one would think if this happens to someone

at the top, things will improve...

About 5 ago it was announced Prez Bush (W) had contracted Lyme... I thought for

sure my prayers had been answered as now we will all learn what protocol is

given to a president that gets him well..

Well about a year before this, he had a colonoscopy and the American public was

given a blow by blow description of everything the doctor did to and for him...

But for Lyme, we heard absolutely nothing.. No protocol was mentioned and I

don't even know if the best protocol was ever determined...

On another support group, one member, a doctor, told us he'd received a call out

of the blue after the Prez had Lyme, asking him all about his treatment methods

for Lyme.. He thought this was a very important call, but the caller never

identified himself... Then a few days later he received a call from the White

House doctor, again quering him about the specifics of his treatment protocol...

He was thanked for the info and never contacted again... He never knew if his

protocol was used or not on the President...

Here is a video of Prez Bush in 1994 while he was still Governor of Tx... And

then 10 years later as President, there is a noticable difference in his speech

and actions... Many in the Lyme community believe he was never cured of Lyme,

thus if this was so, we had a President with Lyme disease...

Take care,

Jim

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> > Have any of you out there, that like most of us it took months/years

> > to find our diagnosis (and were told that we're nuts), got the law

> > involved for malpractice? I was wondering about getting lawyer

> > involved, because it clearly says in all of my medical/emergency room

> > records that " Mr. Curo has severe anxiety " , and now I'm living with a

> > chronic condition, that could've been prevented.

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