OxyPowder - Miralax

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Is anyone using Oxypowder or Magnesium on a long term basis?

From what I have read, Magnesium sounds OK. Although it sounds like there is a risk of hypermagnesmia with prolonged use. (Everything has some risk or another, eh?)

Also, I have a question about osmotics and the large intestines.

When your food reaches the large intestines, it is semiliquid mass called chyme. The function of the large intestines is to draw the water back into the body.

There are two ways that I have heard the way osmotics work described.

The first way is to change the osmoticity, keeping the water in the bowels, allowing the stool to remain soft.

The second I have heard is that osmotics draw the water into the bowels. The impression that is given is that water is drawn from the rest of the body into the bowels.

Which of these is more accurate? I believe it to be the first. Or are there other details I am omitting?

From: miralax [mailto:miralax ] On Behalf Of mommtlcSent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 8:01 PMTo: miralax Subject: Re: pharmacist take

Oxypowder is magnesium oxide and germanium. The same ingredients can be obtained for much less than this brand name product. That being said -- it works. Magnesium is used as an osmotic laxative -- and should be the second intervention tried --- after prescribing dietary interventions first. The last resort would be PEG.>> No, we haven't tried OxyPowder. The key to Miralax's success (for us) is> that it is an osmotic. It holds water in the bowels, allowing the stool to> stay soft longer.> > From what I have read of oxypowder, it is more of a cleanser/de-toxifier.> My son doesn't suffer from anything like this. His problem is poor bowel> motility due to nerve damge of the spinal cord.> > > > _____ > > From: miralax [mailto:miralax ] On Behalf Of> Renae Schley> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:49 PM> To: miralax > Subject: RE: pharmacist take> > > > > > I'm curious, since you've had success with miralax and no adverse effects,> have you also tried the oxypowder (? I think that's what it's called) that's> been mentioned on here? I was wondering how well it works compared to the> miralax?> > From: miralax [mailto:miralax ] On Behalf Of> Jack Gershon> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:06 PM> To: miralax > Subject: RE: pharmacist take> > > > I have to say, I don't see anything odd or wrong about relieving my son's> chronic constipation.> > We understand the source of the constipation. Spina Bifida. congenital> nerve damage.> > We have an effective method to keep him regular. Miralax and enemeez> > We have observed no apparent adverse effects. He has a twin sister not on> Miralax. They are developmentally and behaviorally similar.> > Diet isn't going to stimulate nerves that don't work.> > My son needs the water to stay in the bowels and not be taken out of the> stool before it has a chance to move of of his bowels.> > In my son's case, the catastrophic results would be allowing his> constipation to snowball into impaction and distended pockets. The Miralax> is a blessing for him.> > Jack> > _____ > > From: miralax [mailto:miralax ] On Behalf Of> Lillu> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:13 PM> To: miralax > Subject: Re: pharmacist take> > > > Hmmmm...that's really interesting. Then how did they know that giving it to> children would not cause some kind of catastrophic result? Who was the> first child guinea pig, I wonder? Who was the first PCP to Rx this to a> child? Did they simply cross their fingers and hope for the best? No body> even knows what the long-term effects will be. I mean, the manufacturers> specifically state Not for use for longer than 7 days?? 14 days?? I> forget. But no one is recommending long-term use of this product except the> docs and for children. Seems odd. And wrong.> > > > > > _____ > > > To: miralax > Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:34:11 AM> Subject: RE: pharmacist take> > > > We had a discussion with our bowel and bladder specialist about "not being> approved for children". Her take was that many medications that are> prescribed are not approved for children. Testing on children is not a> popular idea. Parents aren't going to submit their children to trials> unless they have a specific need. It is difficult to get the approval for> use on children.> > Jack> > _____ > > From: miralax@yahoogroups .com [mailto:miralax@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf> Of Tracie Happel> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:54 AM> To: miralax@yahoogroups .com> Subject: pharmacist take> > > > This morning I learned a guy I swim with every Tues and Thurs morning > is a pharmacist. So, between sets, I asked him why doctors and > pharmacists continue to rx Miralax for children when it's not > approved. I feel pharmacists are to blame, too. They're the ones that > hand the physical product to us with no words of warning. He said > while it's true it's not approved, there are no studies to show it's > damaging and really, when docs rx meds, it's always risk vs. benefit. > More kids are helped with it than harmed by it. I asked him since > there ARE some kids who are harmed, why do they not warn parents. He > gave 2 reasons: 1) it helps more than it hurts (so I guess for those > of us whose kids have been hurt, it doesn't matter...) and 2) it's the > parents job to check out all medicines before giving it to their > child. I argued that if a doc is rx'ing it to us, we trust them. He > just shrugged. Argh!!! The level of frustration made the rest of my > swim pretty good as I pounded it out on the water. I was so sad, too, > at the level of brainwashing this guy had - he never once considered > getting to the root of constipation, he only talked about making kids > go - band aid! When I asked him about getting to the root of the > problem, he said most parents don't want or understand that, therefore > just make them happy and off they go.> > Anyway, thought I'd share. I didn't dig too deep with him - need to > stay friends, ya know.> > - Tracie> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2865 - Release Date: 05/10/10> 02:26:00> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2865 - Release Date: 05/11/10> 02:26:00> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2867 - Release Date: 05/11/10> 02:26:00>

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We have been using it on my son for over a yr. Wonderful product.TIs anyone using Oxypowder or Magnesium on a long term basis? From what I have read, Magnesium sounds OK. Although it sounds like there is a risk of hypermagnesmia with prolonged use. (Everything has some risk or another, eh?) Also, I have a question about osmotics and the large intestines. When your food reaches the large intestines, it is semiliquid mass called chyme. The function of the large intestines is to draw the water back into the body. There are two ways that I have heard the way osmotics work described.The first way is to change the osmoticity, keeping the water in the bowels, allowing the stool to remain soft.The second I have heard is that osmotics draw the water into the bowels. The impression that is given is that water is drawn from the rest of the body into the bowels. Which of these is more accurate? I believe it to be the first. Or are there other details I am omitting? From: miralax [mailto:miralax ] On Behalf Of mommtlcSent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 8:01 PMTo: miralax Subject: Re: pharmacist take Oxypowder is magnesium oxide and germanium. The same ingredients can be obtained for much less than this brand name product. That being said -- it works. Magnesium is used as an osmotic laxative -- and should be the second intervention tried --- after prescribing dietary interventions first. The last resort would be PEG.>> No, we haven't tried OxyPowder. The key to Miralax's success (for us) is> that it is an osmotic. It holds water in the bowels, allowing the stool to> stay soft longer.> > From what I have read of oxypowder, it is more of a cleanser/de-toxifier.> My son doesn't suffer from anything like this. His problem is poor bowel> motility due to nerve damge of the spinal cord.> > > > _____ > > From: miralax [mailto:miralax ] On Behalf Of> Renae Schley> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:49 PM> To: miralax > Subject: RE: pharmacist take> > > > > > I'm curious, since you've had success with miralax and no adverse effects,> have you also tried the oxypowder (? I think that's what it's called) that's> been mentioned on here? I was wondering how well it works compared to the> miralax?> > From: miralax [mailto:miralax ] On Behalf Of> Jack Gershon> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:06 PM> To: miralax > Subject: RE: pharmacist take> > > > I have to say, I don't see anything odd or wrong about relieving my son's> chronic constipation.> > We understand the source of the constipation. Spina Bifida. congenital> nerve damage.> > We have an effective method to keep him regular. Miralax and enemeez> > We have observed no apparent adverse effects. He has a twin sister not on> Miralax. They are developmentally and behaviorally similar.> > Diet isn't going to stimulate nerves that don't work.> > My son needs the water to stay in the bowels and not be taken out of the> stool before it has a chance to move of of his bowels.> > In my son's case, the catastrophic results would be allowing his> constipation to snowball into impaction and distended pockets. The Miralax> is a blessing for him.> > Jack> > _____ > > From: miralax [mailto:miralax ] On Behalf Of> Lillu> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:13 PM> To: miralax > Subject: Re: pharmacist take> > > > Hmmmm...that's really interesting. Then how did they know that giving it to> children would not cause some kind of catastrophic result? Who was the> first child guinea pig, I wonder? Who was the first PCP to Rx this to a> child? Did they simply cross their fingers and hope for the best? No body> even knows what the long-term effects will be. I mean, the manufacturers> specifically state Not for use for longer than 7 days?? 14 days?? I> forget. But no one is recommending long-term use of this product except the> docs and for children. Seems odd. And wrong.> > > > > > _____ > > > To: miralax > Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:34:11 AM> Subject: RE: pharmacist take> > > > We had a discussion with our bowel and bladder specialist about "not being> approved for children". Her take was that many medications that are> prescribed are not approved for children. Testing on children is not a> popular idea. Parents aren't going to submit their children to trials> unless they have a specific need. It is difficult to get the approval for> use on children.> > Jack> > _____ > > From: miralax@yahoogroups .com [mailto:miralax@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf> Of Tracie Happel> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:54 AM> To: miralax@yahoogroups .com> Subject: pharmacist take> > > > This morning I learned a guy I swim with every Tues and Thurs morning > is a pharmacist. So, between sets, I asked him why doctors and > pharmacists continue to rx Miralax for children when it's not > approved. I feel pharmacists are to blame, too. They're the ones that > hand the physical product to us with no words of warning. He said > while it's true it's not approved, there are no studies to show it's > damaging and really, when docs rx meds, it's always risk vs. benefit. > More kids are helped with it than harmed by it. I asked him since > there ARE some kids who are harmed, why do they not warn parents. He > gave 2 reasons: 1) it helps more than it hurts (so I guess for those > of us whose kids have been hurt, it doesn't matter...) and 2) it's the > parents job to check out all medicines before giving it to their > child. I argued that if a doc is rx'ing it to us, we trust them. He > just shrugged. Argh!!! The level of frustration made the rest of my > swim pretty good as I pounded it out on the water. I was so sad, too, > at the level of brainwashing this guy had - he never once considered > getting to the root of constipation, he only talked about making kids > go - band aid! When I asked him about getting to the root of the > problem, he said most parents don't want or understand that, therefore > just make them happy and off they go.> > Anyway, thought I'd share. I didn't dig too deep with him - need to > stay friends, ya know.> > - Tracie> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2865 - Release Date: 05/10/10> 02:26:00> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2865 - Release Date: 05/11/10> 02:26:00> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2867 - Release Date: 05/11/10> 02:26:00>No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2878 - Release Date: 05/16/10 14:26:00