Re: Jerry's movie set to go?

[Guest guest]

I haven't seen Pearl Harbor, so I can't comment on the guy.

However, I have seen both Mummy movies, and Weisz plays a character

that is a nerd. She's accident prone, dedicated to order, inquisitive,

often ignorant of real danger, and has other geek/nerd/Aspie traits. I'm

not saying that she is like this, only that her prior performance may have

been responsible for her casting.

Obviously, it would be somewhat difficult to pair her up with n

Fraiser again, although his role as Eliot s was very on-key for an

adult Aspie struggling with normalcy and having *no clue* what to do. Given

that Harold Ramos also wrote Ghostbusters, which has not one but two

perseverant nerd characters, there may be some Aspieness to him as well.

(Then again, you can pretty much interchange Jew and Aspie for stereotypical

nerds - smart, glasses, clumsy, allergies, etc. I'm not saying that

*either* is true, just that both *have* been cinematic stereotypes). Hell

yeah n Fraiser is a hunk, but that doesn't mean he can't play an

autistic person with more depth to his character than Rainman.

Re: Jerry's movie set to go?

> This sounds ominous. With overtly NT super-hunky stars verging on

superhero

> status, it looks like aspies are about to become a business. The message

> seems to be: aspies can be cool and hunky too. That kinda misses the point

> entirely. Why should cool, sexy or hunky people be any worthier than the

> not-so cool, sexy or hunky?

>

> Neil

>

[Guest guest]

I would cast a run-of-the-mill person able to emulate many aspie behavioural

traits. I'd also have them live in a working class or lower middle class

neighbourhood, experience employment problems and financial hardships. Of 22

in the Edinburgh and Lothians Asperger Society I think around 5-6 have some

form of employment. Of around 50 in the Strathclyde Aspie Group only 8 work.

Most live on benefit and/or with their parents.

I simply don't trust Hollywood any more.They're too closely entwined with

the military-industrial complex to offer meaningful insights.

Neil

Re: Jerry's movie set to go?

> This message from Neil Gardner arched across the cosmos:

> >The message

> >seems to be: aspies can be cool and hunky too. That kinda misses the

point

> >entirely. Why should cool, sexy or hunky people be any worthier than the

> >not-so cool, sexy or hunky?

>

>

> Who would you have them cast, then? It wouldn't be any more accurate to

> intentionally choose an unattractive (by society's standards) actor to

> represent the autistic spectrum...

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Keanu Reeves and Helena Bonham . I'm pretty sure Keanu Reeves is

autistic. Helena Bonham has proven her ability to play characters

with physical disabilities (Theory of Flight), emotional disabilities (Fight

Club) and gripped by complete mental breakdown (Hamlet).

Of course, they did play brother and sister in Hamlet, so the caster may be

somewhat reluctant to cast them as husband and wife.

Anyway, still beautiful, but more likely to communicate the reality of

autism.

----- Original Message -----

>

> Who would you have them cast, then? It wouldn't be any more accurate to

> intentionally choose an unattractive (by society's standards) actor to

> represent the autistic spectrum...

>

>

[Guest guest]

How about Rene Russo? She was *very* convinving in " Buddy " .

" " Buddy " (1997). Often charming, fact-based story of a wealthy, animal-loving

eccentric (Rene Russo) whose 1920s New York menagerie includes a sickly infant

male gorilla she tenderly raises as a human child until his massive size and

natural jungle instincts become a danger to the household. "

Quoting Kaiden Fox :

> I haven't seen Pearl Harbor, so I can't comment on the guy.

>

> However, I have seen both Mummy movies, and Weisz plays a character

> that is a nerd. She's accident prone, dedicated to order, inquisitive,

> often ignorant of real danger, and has other geek/nerd/Aspie traits. I'm

> not saying that she is like this, only that her prior performance may have

> been responsible for her casting.

>

> Obviously, it would be somewhat difficult to pair her up with n

> Fraiser again, although his role as Eliot s was very on-key for an

> adult Aspie struggling with normalcy and having *no clue* what to do.

> Given

> that Harold Ramos also wrote Ghostbusters, which has not one but two

> perseverant nerd characters, there may be some Aspieness to him as well.

> (Then again, you can pretty much interchange Jew and Aspie for

> stereotypical

> nerds - smart, glasses, clumsy, allergies, etc. I'm not saying that

> *either* is true, just that both *have* been cinematic stereotypes). Hell

> yeah n Fraiser is a hunk, but that doesn't mean he can't play an

> autistic person with more depth to his character than Rainman.

>

>

> Re: Jerry's movie set to go?

>

>

> > This sounds ominous. With overtly NT super-hunky stars verging on

> superhero

> > status, it looks like aspies are about to become a business. The message

> > seems to be: aspies can be cool and hunky too. That kinda misses the

> point

> > entirely. Why should cool, sexy or hunky people be any worthier than the

> > not-so cool, sexy or hunky?

> >

> > Neil

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I agree, I don't trust Hollywood one bit. I'll feel sorry for Jerry

if they slaughter his reputation and that of all AS/autistics.

I can just see it, " You don't have Asperger's you're not a hunk

(beauty). I learned that people with AS are gorgeous and sexy

from " Mozart and the Whale " .

I do hope it goes well, and wouldn't it be great if they would expose

CAN's nefarious ways in the middle of it????

Camille

> I would cast a run-of-the-mill person able to emulate many aspie

behavioural

> traits. I'd also have them live in a working class or lower middle

class

> neighbourhood, experience employment problems and financial

hardships. Of 22

> in the Edinburgh and Lothians Asperger Society I think around 5-6

have some

> form of employment. Of around 50 in the Strathclyde Aspie Group

only 8 work.

> Most live on benefit and/or with their parents.

>

> I simply don't trust Hollywood any more.They're too closely

entwined with

> the military-industrial complex to offer meaningful insights.

>

> Neil

>

> Re: Jerry's movie set to go?

>

>

> > This message from Neil Gardner arched across the cosmos:

> > >The message

> > >seems to be: aspies can be cool and hunky too. That kinda misses

the

> point

> > >entirely. Why should cool, sexy or hunky people be any worthier

than the

> > >not-so cool, sexy or hunky?

> >

> >

> > Who would you have them cast, then? It wouldn't be any more

accurate to

> > intentionally choose an unattractive (by society's standards)

actor to

> > represent the autistic spectrum...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Well, considering that in the novel " Oryx and Crake " , an Aspie *destroys

human civilization,* it's a matter of perspective.

Now, if I can just convince people that I *am* a hunk, because I have

Asperger's... well, I guess in my case it wouldn't be hard to do.

Re: Jerry's movie set to go?

> Hi,

>

> I agree, I don't trust Hollywood one bit. I'll feel sorry for Jerry

> if they slaughter his reputation and that of all AS/autistics.

>

> I can just see it, " You don't have Asperger's you're not a hunk

> (beauty). I learned that people with AS are gorgeous and sexy

> from " Mozart and the Whale " .

>

> I do hope it goes well, and wouldn't it be great if they would expose

> CAN's nefarious ways in the middle of it????

>

> Camille

[Guest guest]

You know what?

I think you are right. Aspie/autie = hunk/beauty

I'm just going to ignore what my mirror says.

:-)

Camille

> Well, considering that in the novel " Oryx and Crake " , an Aspie

*destroys

> human civilization,* it's a matter of perspective.

>

> Now, if I can just convince people that I *am* a hunk, because I

have

> Asperger's... well, I guess in my case it wouldn't be hard to do.

>

> Re: Jerry's movie set to go?

>

>

> > Hi,

> >

> > I agree, I don't trust Hollywood one bit. I'll feel sorry for

Jerry

> > if they slaughter his reputation and that of all AS/autistics.

> >

> > I can just see it, " You don't have Asperger's you're not a hunk

> > (beauty). I learned that people with AS are gorgeous and sexy

> > from " Mozart and the Whale " .

> >

> > I do hope it goes well, and wouldn't it be great if they would

expose

> > CAN's nefarious ways in the middle of it????

> >

> > Camille

[Guest guest]

Sounds cool with me!! And it would be really informative than fiction

in this day of " reality TV " , etc. Besides, what society needs is an

education about just how really difficult it really is for us while

being entertaining at the same time. It must be something that would be

standard viewing in businesses, etc. (think a documentary " Peege " here

which is " required viewing " in the nursing care/healthcare fields.)

Re: Reality TV: I would do something like " Big Brother " , " The Real

World " (if younger) & I'd do it the same way with AS like Pedro Zamora

lived & died with AIDS on the show. I wouldn't mind " Extreme Makeover "

or " Simple Life " -as one of the locals who can educaate others. Haven't

seen " Apprentice " yet. Sounds too insulting & humiliating being fired

on national TV. I would consider " The Bachelorette " -if they spring up

with an older version. " Jane Millionaire " ought to be a must-why not??

Anything where YOU are in control of the situation yourself.

http://community.webtv.net/tikigalharkins/LETSTALKASPERGERS

[Guest guest]

I once found a " social story " about a woman who *didn't* ignore what her

mirror said. She wound up exiling her step-daughter into the woods, where

she met seven people of short stature. She wasn't happy enough with the

exile, though, so she tried to poison her with an apple.

Yeah... I never trust mirrors. Besides, I know I'm a hunk. Not sure what

I'm a hunk *of*, but I know I'm a hunk.

Re: Jerry's movie set to go?

> You know what?

>

> I think you are right. Aspie/autie = hunk/beauty

>

> I'm just going to ignore what my mirror says.

[Guest guest]

Note to self:

Ignore mirror if it starts talking to I.

Camille :-)

> I once found a " social story " about a woman who *didn't* ignore

what her

> mirror said. She wound up exiling her step-daughter into the

woods, where

> she met seven people of short stature. She wasn't happy enough

with the

> exile, though, so she tried to poison her with an apple.

>

> Yeah... I never trust mirrors. Besides, I know I'm a hunk. Not

sure what

> I'm a hunk *of*, but I know I'm a hunk.

>

> Re: Jerry's movie set to go?

>

>

> > You know what?

> >

> > I think you are right. Aspie/autie = hunk/beauty

> >

> > I'm just going to ignore what my mirror says.