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  • 7 months later...

>

> Dear -

>

> I see that Moran is at it again with his nasty messages. I

> had to get

> off this list for a while the last time because of all the

> negativity he was

> spouting. As you know, negativity is counterproductive to good

> health.

Hi Kathy. I don't wish to upset anyone with cancer. I am on their side,

even if they can't see it. You recall I advised you to tune out last time

so you were not upset.

I am also not against the many sincere people within alternative medicine

and on this list (Art, Mike etc) who are searching for answers and want to

help cancer suffers as much as they can, even if I strongly disagree with

many of their views and might say so very forcefully at times.

But Vince is something else. While I smelt something a bit odd about his

posts last time (you recall my reaction to his tale about the mediterranean

fisherman?), I did not know then that he was so deeply involved in offering

alternative cancer treatments on a commercial basis. A whole new set of

considerations comes into play.

So, I think back over all the self-promotional material, the hints at

insider knowledge about the latest and best treatments, about the marvellous

results being obtained out of everyone's sight, the charlatan-type

technobabble mixed in with admittedly sound science, and many requests for

private contact from new subscribers, but a glaring lack of really solid

information as to what treatments he believes really work, and I ask myself

" what can it all mean? " .

I am not denying that he may make some useful contributions about peripheral

matters, but once he assumes the role of physician he will be measured by me

against immensely strong medical traditions that have existed since the time

of Hippocrates, of teaching, the sharing of results, and the widest possible

publication of anything promising so that others can explore the

possibilities. Thousands of medical journals and even many now publishing

alternative sources testify to that.

Regards

Moran (Not MD--- MB BS BSc(Med) FRCS(Eng) FRACS)

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hi,

wanted to say something about two things:

1) the shut down.

am been told on enzymesautism list that it was a message passed along from

someone on italian . if that is the case, what they are actually

saying, it is only on the italian . ours was just down for

maintenance a few days ago. wether that was all for the maintenance here or

not, do not know, but have been led to believe that this was not a

northamerican problem.

2) zinc is something that woudl like to try for daughter too. sue, does your

daughter get it in liquid form or is it capsules and you open them up and

put on food or drink? or does she swallow pills? mine daughter cannot

swalllow pills and is very sensitive to different tastes, and she will not

eat much to begin with and am trying to find ways to 'hide' some of

supplements. one way is that am making little 'wafers' (you could use

chocolate molds too for 'nice' looking pieces ) out of melting chocolate

chips and then mixing in as much of her supplements as is possible.

sometimes it does not work well if am putting too much supplements in one

wafer and she notices the taste differences. so was wondering you gave your

daughter zinc?

Medication and puberty

>

> I know there has been a lot of discussion about this

> lately, and I try to weigh in on the side of holistic

> treatments--my daughter's only five, but I've used

> alternatives for my PMS and now menopausal issues with

> good results. I only wish I'd known about it all (or

> my mother did!) when I was pubescent (okay...it was

> the sixties...).

>

> Anyhow, someone asked about zinc supplements. If your

> child is autistic, a high dose of zinc is probably

> called for. We've been working with the Pfeiffer

> Treatment Center outside of Chicago, where Dr.

> Walsh's main thrust of research is about the high

> incidence of copper circulating in our children's

> blood, giving them the symptoms of 's disease

> (copper overload, person can act autistic). First

> line of defense: zinc, which flushes copper, as the

> kids also show incredible zinc deficiency. My little

> gal's on 55 mgs. per day.

>

> Dr. Walsh presents at DAN (Defeat Autism Now)

> conferences, and lately even got to give his autism

> spiel to the American Psychiatric Assn. Pfeiffer's

> website is hriptc.org, click on Autism Protocol, or go

> to articles about copper and zinc. There are

> alternatives to medication, and helpful articles exist

>

> on alternativementalhealth.com. Peace, Sue

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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I have not heard any new of a shut down over the monitor/owner email group.

Hopefully would announce on the monitor/owner email group... they have

in the past.

I and Jen both have a Zinc deficiency. It is a inherited trait from my

grandmother side of the family... my grandmother pasted away at age 92

years. I was told by doctor that the white spots on my fingernails are the

signs of a Zinc deficiency. I am giving Jen Zinc in a pill form and she just

chews it up, but Jen does not have trouble taking pills yet. I have not seen

any change in Jen with the Zinc, but then again maybe because it is

inherited trait our bodies do not require the same amount of Zinc as other

peoples... that what was suggested by a doctor... only god knows. I am still

giving Jen the Zinc prescribed in the hope that it is making a small

difference.

Take Care and God Bless,

Beverly Weakley

monitor/owner

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> Message: 1

> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:58:27 -0500

> From: Dibra ~ A Heaven Sent Boutique <nicole@...>

> Subject: Incorporating an Inclusion Classroom in East Meadow

>

> Hello,

> I am trying to network with other parents who have children in the East Meadow

School District (Nassau County New York)

> Who would be interested in " joining a proposal " that we are creating for the

East Meadow School District for an inclusion program in THIS school district. We

have a program consultant who has already successfully put this together in

other districts. If anyone else is interested please email me or call privatley

so we can rally together and I can fill you in with the details. Pass this on to

any parents you know of children who happen to have (at this time we are working

on Early Elementary = Kindergarten-1st/2nd )

> a preschooler at this time in this school district receiving services who feel

that there child would benefit from an inclusion program like this..

> Thanks!

> 516 542 0567

,

Have you tried the NSASA website and mailing list? It's relatively

low-traffic, but there might be some people from East Meadow on it.

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> Reg Reynolds

Don't teach them all at the same time and use signs that are morphologically

(i.e., in form) quite different.

> From: diana L <di20d@...>

> Subject: Problem with some sign language

>

> Hi List,

> I am teaching my daughter sign language. Now, she

> knows the sign for " drink “, but when she does the

> sign for drink, I don't know if she wants milk, water

> or orange jus, sometimes I give her milk and she

> pushes it away because she wants water, sometimes I

> give water and she pushes it away because she wants

> milk. Should I teach her different signs for milk,

> water and orange jus or will that be too confusing for

> her??

> If not, what are the easy signs for milk, water and

> juice??.

> I appreciate any suggestions.

>

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In a message dated 10/12/03 2:05:22 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> Commonsense Rebellion by Bruce Levine has a chapter on addiction where he

> cites a lot of studies that pretty much say exactly what Rick says here

>

First create the cure, then manufacture the disease. Isn't THAT the way it

goes? Or is it the other way around? In either event, Wellbutrin is the

anti-smoking anti-depressant of choice. I've met so many people who went to

their

doctors and when expressing their desire to stop smoking were handed a script

for this mind-altering drug. Some people had success with it, other

experienced the classic side effects including racing heart, anxiety, agitation,

euphoria, insomnia etc. A few people I know were appalled when I told them what

their anti-smoking prescription drug really was. That made them more determined

to stop smoking without any prescription aid. Rick is right. About all of

it. I quit smoking cold turkey without a problem, but then I didn't smoke

commercial cigarettes laced with addictive substances. I've also quit caffeine

at

various times without a problem. The first day is the worst, but it's not a

big deal and it isn't life threatening as quitting psychiatric drugs can be.

But what oh what will all the addiction specialists do if people actually

exercised their own free will? I do believe that one of the goals in today's

society is to eradicate free will and make us all puppets of the psychiatric

cabal.

After Rick mentioned the DSM-IV dx's related to caffeine, I'm wondering how

the hell many cups of coffee one must drink to qualify for that dx? Rick?

Anyone??

<A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A>

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

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In a message dated 10/12/03 2:05:22 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> Commonsense Rebellion by Bruce Levine has a chapter on addiction where he

> cites a lot of studies that pretty much say exactly what Rick says here

>

First create the cure, then manufacture the disease. Isn't THAT the way it

goes? Or is it the other way around? In either event, Wellbutrin is the

anti-smoking anti-depressant of choice. I've met so many people who went to

their

doctors and when expressing their desire to stop smoking were handed a script

for this mind-altering drug. Some people had success with it, other

experienced the classic side effects including racing heart, anxiety, agitation,

euphoria, insomnia etc. A few people I know were appalled when I told them what

their anti-smoking prescription drug really was. That made them more determined

to stop smoking without any prescription aid. Rick is right. About all of

it. I quit smoking cold turkey without a problem, but then I didn't smoke

commercial cigarettes laced with addictive substances. I've also quit caffeine

at

various times without a problem. The first day is the worst, but it's not a

big deal and it isn't life threatening as quitting psychiatric drugs can be.

But what oh what will all the addiction specialists do if people actually

exercised their own free will? I do believe that one of the goals in today's

society is to eradicate free will and make us all puppets of the psychiatric

cabal.

After Rick mentioned the DSM-IV dx's related to caffeine, I'm wondering how

the hell many cups of coffee one must drink to qualify for that dx? Rick?

Anyone??

<A HREF= " http://anxiety-panic.com/griffon " >Blind Reason</A>

a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again.

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Please post answers to " non-surgical weight management program " question to

the list. I am interested in this topic also as I'm sure others are.

Debbie Rothman RD

Re: calcium

This may not be the correct forum for this question but since many on this

list seem to know quite a bit about Ca, I thought I would try. Is any

particular form of Ca better absorbed by person with celiac disease than any

other? I have a pt with celiac who is convinced that coral shell is the

best for her. I'm sure it's not but I don't have concrete evidence.

TIA, Bev

calcium

has anyone ever heard of the form of calcium called tricalcium

phosphate? Costco carries a chewable in this form, but I don't know

anything about its absorption after surgery. I usually recommend Ca

citrate, but don't want to eliminate a readily available alternative if

it is appropriate.

Thanks in advance.

Simler, MS, RD, CDE

ValleyCare Health System

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