Re: coiling for bartonella and virus info

[Guest guest]

Hi Peggy,

The only reason to start every other day with Bart is to avoid a tough herx...

Since you don't have that, then twice daily should work for you... If you aren't

herxing, then perhaps you don't have it... Be thankful if this is so... For

others, this has been one very tough illnesss to kill off... Have you tried

other Bart frx's? Here are some I have in my files, I have no clue how good they

are... But they are worth a try...

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BTW, just found out yesterday while doing some research, extra virgin organic

coconut oil is very good for a virus.. I knew it was antiviral, but it works

especially well for viruses... So if you have any, try scaling up to 6 Tbsp's

daily... It is the healthiest oil on the planet, has many health bennies, but

for us, it should help with this virus...

I hope you are doing better... I felt well yesterday, day 14!!! Today I am very

ill with this virus again, I have never had anything like this.. The thing you

need to be careful of is it getting into your lungs and causing an infection,

this can lead to pneumonia... Taking MMS hourly, for 8 hours (or more) should be

very helpful... Take as much as you can without feeling worse per hour. A woman

here died from this thing once it turned into pneumonia... She died from the

pneumonia, not the virus. Docs here give CIPRO once it enters the lungs to

prevent pneumonia, for me CIPRO is not a pleasant thought as it by itself can be

dangerous for some...

>>>What are pneumonia symptoms and signs?

Most people who develop pneumonia initially have symptoms of a cold (upper

respiratory infection, for example, sneezing, sore throat, cough), which are

then followed by a high fever (sometimes as high as 104 F), shaking chills, and

a cough with sputum production. The sputum is usually discolored and sometimes

bloody. Depending on the location of the infection, certain symptoms are more

likely to develop. When the infection settles in the air passages, cough and

sputum tend to predominate the symptoms. In some, the spongy tissue of the lungs

that contain the air sacs is more involved. In this case, oxygenation can be

impaired, along with stiffening of the lung, which results in shortness of

breath. At times, the individual's skin color may change and become dusky or

purplish (a condition known as " cyanosis " ) due to their blood being poorly

oxygenated.

The only pain fibers in the lung are on the surface of the lung, in the area

known as the pleura. Chest pain may develop if the outer aspects of the lung

close to the pleura are involved. This pain is usually sharp and worsens when

taking a deep breath and is known as pleuritic pain or pleurisy. In other cases

of pneumonia, depending on the causative organism, there can be a slow onset of

symptoms. A worsening cough, headaches, and muscle aches may be the only

symptoms.<<<<

Take care,

Jim

>

> Hi Jim,

>

> I coiled for bartonella during the summer twice a day for 6-8 weeks with no

> herxes at all, so I figured if I'd ever have it I must be finished with it.

> I've never had a herx from coiling for bartonella. But since I've been so

> sick for almost two months, I've been examining all the possibilities, and

> thought maybe I should try it again. I did, but still no herxes.

>

> Peggy

>

> _____

>

> From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ]

> On Behalf Of Jim in Jax

> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 5:14 PM

> To: Lyme and Rife Group Jim!

> Subject: Re: coiling for bartonella

>

>

>

>

> Hi Peggy,

>

>

> You may want to start Coiling for Bart every other day at first... Since you

> don't know the intensity of the infection, you could end up with some very

> tough herxes starting twice daily... If you then feel you can, start with

> once daily and again if you feel you can, then move to twice daily..

>

> --

> Take care,

> Jim

>

[Guest guest]

I've been using 832 as a frq. for Bart, and am going to coil for it before I go to bed. I am at 30 secs. so far on my abdomen. I've been advised to progress slowly with this, as the herxing can be wicked intense; you have to chip away at the stone, like Andy Dufresne in "Shawshank Redemption.To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 4:18:21 PMSubject: Re: coiling for bartonella and virus info

Hi Peggy,

The only reason to start every other day with Bart is to avoid a tough herx... Since you don't have that, then twice daily should work for you... If you aren't herxing, then perhaps you don't have it... Be thankful if this is so... For others, this has been one very tough illnesss to kill off... Have you tried other Bart frx's? Here are some I have in my files, I have no clue how good they are... But they are worth a try...

21-27

306

364

379

432

610-635

645

654

696

786

840

842

844

846

847

850

857

880

1000

1218

1518

4200

6878

10,000

BTW, just found out yesterday while doing some research, extra virgin organic coconut oil is very good for a virus.. I knew it was antiviral, but it works especially well for viruses... So if you have any, try scaling up to 6 Tbsp's daily... It is the healthiest oil on the planet, has many health bennies, but for us, it should help with this virus...

I hope you are doing better... I felt well yesterday, day 14!!! Today I am very ill with this virus again, I have never had anything like this.. The thing you need to be careful of is it getting into your lungs and causing an infection, this can lead to pneumonia... Taking MMS hourly, for 8 hours (or more) should be very helpful... Take as much as you can without feeling worse per hour. A woman here died from this thing once it turned into pneumonia... She died from the pneumonia, not the virus. Docs here give CIPRO once it enters the lungs to prevent pneumonia, for me CIPRO is not a pleasant thought as it by itself can be dangerous for some...

>>>What are pneumonia symptoms and signs?

Most people who develop pneumonia initially have symptoms of a cold (upper respiratory infection, for example, sneezing, sore throat, cough), which are then followed by a high fever (sometimes as high as 104 F), shaking chills, and a cough with sputum production. The sputum is usually discolored and sometimes bloody. Depending on the location of the infection, certain symptoms are more likely to develop. When the infection settles in the air passages, cough and sputum tend to predominate the symptoms. In some, the spongy tissue of the lungs that contain the air sacs is more involved. In this case, oxygenation can be impaired, along with stiffening of the lung, which results in shortness of breath. At times, the individual's skin color may change and become dusky or purplish (a condition known as "cyanosis") due to their blood being poorly oxygenated.

The only pain fibers in the lung are on the surface of the lung, in the area known as the pleura. Chest pain may develop if the outer aspects of the lung close to the pleura are involved. This pain is usually sharp and worsens when taking a deep breath and is known as pleuritic pain or pleurisy. In other cases of pneumonia, depending on the causative organism, there can be a slow onset of symptoms. A worsening cough, headaches, and muscle aches may be the only symptoms.<<<<

Take care,

Jim

>

> Hi Jim,

>

> I coiled for bartonella during the summer twice a day for 6-8 weeks with no

> herxes at all, so I figured if I'd ever have it I must be finished with it.

> I've never had a herx from coiling for bartonella. But since I've been so

> sick for almost two months, I've been examining all the possibilities, and

> thought maybe I should try it again. I did, but still no herxes.

>

> Peggy

>

> _____

>

> From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ]

> On Behalf Of Jim in Jax

> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 5:14 PM

> To: Lyme and Rife Group Jim!

> Subject: Re: coiling for bartonella

>

>

>

>

> Hi Peggy,

>

>

> You may want to start Coiling for Bart every other day at first... Since you

> don't know the intensity of the infection, you could end up with some very

> tough herxes starting twice daily... If you then feel you can, start with

> once daily and again if you feel you can, then move to twice daily..

>

> --

> Take care,

> Jim

>