Re: Re:OT: inflammation, The Master Cleanse with Lyme protocols

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Hi Jim et al,So sorry to hear about the virus. As if you didn't have enough to deal with!You might want to add grounding to reduce inflammation. The earth's negative charge really seems to reduce the problems caused by free radicals and reduces inflammation. I've noticed a major difference in morning inflammation since grounding during the night.I have a question for you on another tack.I'd often done the lemonade-maple-cayenne fast in past years, before I was dxed with Lyme. I usually did it for three days; once in the Spring and once in the Fall. A couple times, I went to 10 days. Always felt better for having done it. It was sort of like rebooting, a restart for the system.In the last 4 years, I haven't done it because I was Rifing, doing S & C, detoxing in other ways and toiling through a heavy pathogen load. I listened to my body, and it just didn't feel right.This full moon, however, something was different, and I felt it was time. I muscle-tested, dowsed, and began Sat. as the moon began to wane. So far, I feel very good and quite energetic. Sleeping well, bowels moving well, mind is clear, no headaches, (but tongue gets pretty coated), my body is enjoying the rest. I'm continuing daily low-volume CEs. The tricky bit is that I also checked by muscle-testing and dowsing my S & C, TCM, other supps, and Rifing, and they weren't contraindicated. I know that the originator of the Master Cleanse diet discouraged supps, and I'm wondering what you, or other members of this group think. We Lymies aren't necessarily like other people, and listening to my body has usually served me pretty well, but at day 5, I'm planning ahead. I'd like to test a few foods at the end of the fast, especially things I tend to crave, being, sometimes, an indication of allergy) I probably should have asked these questions before starting, but felt like my intuition was guiding me. Now, honestly, at the half-way mark, perhaps I'm getting tired of (bored with) the fast, looking for a reason to stop even though every part of my body feels good except my appetite. Or, I want to optimize what I've already done and if the recommendations against supps is truly important, tomorrow, I might stop everything but the cleanse recipe, herbal teas, and water.I'll be interested to hear feedback, experiences, etc.. ThanksBe well,Léna

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Hi ,

"Most of my friends have moved on" sounds familiar. I thought I was the only one suffering from this. Then my husband reminded me that when my stepmother was diagnosed with cancer, she was shocked that all the people she'd thought were good friends just jumped shipped and swam away. She and my father ended up moving back to where they grew up so they could be near family and there would be some sense of support and caring. It seems maybe people are threatened by being reminded that we're all vulnerable and who knows what's coming next. But I've felt for a long time that isolation is one of the most unpleasant side effects of illness.

Peggy

From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of musicladySent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:59 PMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Re:OT: inflammation, The Master Cleanse with Lyme protocols

Hi Lena,I did the Master Cleanse a few years back for 8 days. I did my thyroid meds, but stopped everything else. I didn't figure I needed my digestive support since I wasn't eating. I think the main issue with continuing on supps is that the liver must detox all of this stuff too, so the less strain you can place on the liver while in a state of detox is a good idea. However, if you feel that you must continue any protocols that keep the critters at bay, then I wouldn't stop them. I am currently doing the HCG diet. I put on a lot of weight when I was diagnosed with lyme. It was because my thyroid was almost non functioning. When I finally got my thyroid back up and running the weight remained. I had a bit of a rough go the first week or two on the diet, because I am still treating Mycoplasma and it seems every time I would rife or Photon Mycoplasma, my body would hang on to water and I would actually gain a little weight. Now that I know that, I have relaxed about not losing weight everyday and have celebrated the 12 lbs that I have lost. I am really agressively detoxing during this diet as I know how toxic white fat can be. I feel like I am starting to get my life back and it is such a great feeling! The problem is I am not sure what getting my life back really is, I have been a Lymie for 10 years and most of my friends have moved on. It is like moving to a new city and starting over when being released from the bonds of Lyme.

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Hi ,So much of what you say resonates with me! I'm trying to work with all the changes as learning experiences: meant for my ultimate betterment, and for the most part, this is true. I, too, put on weight during my Lyme recovery phase, and although I'm not doing the fast for that, I've always thought that fasts were helpful in re-evaluating one's relationship with all aspects of food: a good reboot, so to speak. My body seems to welcome the stillness.Mycoplasma issues here followed the same route. For me, extra hydration helped break the fluid retention, but I remember the puffy places that were still hideouts for myco. An ankle would be painful and there'd be a 'baggie' of water just beneath the protrusion of the ankle bone. Same for puffy packets between my knuckles. I'm not certain I'm done with mycoplasma, and I keep hitting it at the beginning of my frx cycles, just in case, but these things seem not to be an issue anymore. Yes, I'm aggressively detoxing too, because fat cells are releasing stuff. Whenever I shed weight, I notice the toxins coming out. Nice to lose that baggage. We lose so many things while fighting Lyme. A health struggle, by its very nature, makes us have to center in on ourselves, which narrows our scope, our interests, our energetic pursuit of other things, and our painfully acquired topic of 'expertise' isn't something others want to hear about. Lyme really shows you who your friends are, which, I guess, isn't the worst thing in the world, if you aren't into superficiality. But sometimes, I'd like to return to my old illusions. Years ago, I lost a lot of weight, and at first was mildly pleased at the male attention it brought me, until I thought, 'OK, where were you when I was heavier? I'm the same person, you ignored a year ago.' (My beloved husband was always steadfast, bless him.)The friends who have lost touch might be renewed again, but where were they when I really needed them? Rebuilding a new life is almost as hard as vanquishing the bulk of Lyme. I hope it's made me wiser and more compassionate. I hope it's made me value my time more, because the time I have now i've fought fiercely hard to acquire. I'll wait and see what comes next. Maybe write a book about it. Gail Sheehy has written about passages, but I'm not sure there's a corresponding book out there about Lyme-living. Maybe for Lyme Awareness month or week or whatever, I'll write 'a day in the Life of a Lymie', (starting with the first loo-call at 12:44 a.m., checking the Rife machine, working my way through the morning CE, making and taking capsules, distilling water, generating CS, making Kefir and Kombucha, keeping track of my supplement cupboard (always running out of something) setting my FScan, applying topical remedies to rashes: the full monty), just to give my friends and relations a clue. (Sort of like a Christmas letter [how I dislike them], but unvarnished truth) Do I sound cynical? Must do some tapping.I've forgotten what the HGC diet is; will google it, and see if it's something for me to pursue.I've followed your fight and am so happy to see your progress and your release from the worst of Lyme. I don't think we're meant to return to the 'old city'. We were driven to save our lives and now we're driven to find and live them in the new place. That can't be bad, and our returning energy will gather to support us. We deserve to be happy.Someone taught me this lovely little Zen prayer, and I pass it on. It's deceptively simple, but all-inclusive if you really think about it.May I be filled with Loving Kindness,May I be Well.May I be Peaceful and At Ease,May I be Happy.This is what I wish for all of us.Be well, my friend,LénaHi Lena,I did the Master Cleanse a few years back for 8 days. I did my thyroid meds, but stopped everything else. I didn't figure I needed my digestive support since I wasn't eating. I think the main issue with continuing on supps is that the liver must detox all of this stuff too, so the less strain you can place on the liver while in a state of detox is a good idea. However, if you feel that you must continue any protocols that keep the critters at bay, then I wouldn't stop them. I am currently doing the HCG diet. I put on a lot of weight when I was diagnosed with lyme. It was because my thyroid was almost non functioning. When I finally got my thyroid back up and running the weight remained. I had a bit of a rough go the first week or two on the diet, because I am still treating Mycoplasma and it seems every time I would rife or Photon Mycoplasma, my body would hang on to water and I would actually gain a little weight. Now that I know that, I have relaxed about not losing weight everyday and have celebrated the 12 lbs that I have lost. I am really agressively detoxing during this diet as I know how toxic white fat can be. I feel like I am starting to get my life back and it is such a great feeling! The problem is I am not sure what getting my life back really is, I have been a Lymie for 10 years and most of my friends have moved on. It is like moving to a new city and starting over when being released from the bonds of Lyme.>> > Hi Jim et al,> > So sorry to hear about the virus. As if you didn't have enough to deal > with!> You might want to add grounding to reduce inflammation. The earth's > negative charge really seems to reduce the problems caused by free > radicals and reduces inflammation. I've noticed a major difference in > morning inflammation since grounding during the night.> > I have a question for you on another tack.> > I'd often done the lemonade-maple-cayenne fast in past years, before I > was dxed with Lyme. I usually did it for three days; once in the > Spring and once in the Fall. A couple times, I went to 10 days. Always > felt better for having done it. It was sort of like rebooting, a > restart for the system.> > In the last 4 years, I haven't done it because I was Rifing, doing > S & C, detoxing in other ways and toiling through a heavy pathogen load. > I listened to my body, and it just didn't feel right.> > This full moon, however, something was different, and I felt it was > time. I muscle-tested, dowsed, and began Sat. as the moon began to > wane. So far, I feel very good and quite energetic. Sleeping well, > bowels moving well, mind is clear, no headaches, (but tongue gets > pretty coated), my body is enjoying the rest. I'm continuing daily low- > volume CEs.> > The tricky bit is that I also checked by muscle-testing and dowsing my > S & C, TCM, other supps, and Rifing, and they weren't contraindicated. I > know that the originator of the Master Cleanse diet discouraged supps, > and I'm wondering what you, or other members of this group think. We > Lymies aren't necessarily like other people, and listening to my body > has usually served me pretty well, but at day 5, I'm planning ahead. > I'd like to test a few foods at the end of the fast, especially things > I tend to crave, being, sometimes, an indication of allergy)> > I probably should have asked these questions before starting, but felt > like my intuition was guiding me. Now, honestly, at the half-way mark, > perhaps I'm getting tired of (bored with) the fast, looking for a > reason to stop even though every part of my body feels good except my > appetite. Or, I want to optimize what I've already done and if the > recommendations against supps is truly important, tomorrow, I might > stop everything but the cleanse recipe, herbal teas, and water.> > I'll be interested to hear feedback, experiences, etc.. Thanks> > Be well,> Léna>