Re: Need help now with BM!

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Your second post makes me wonder about gluten. Have you tried being completely and 100% gluten free for at least 3 months? Other than that, I don't know what to tell you. It's very hard to make a 4 year old eat/drink something when they don't want to. Can you hide flax seed in pancakes, muffins, cookies? Flax may help. Or hide a spoonful of coconut oil in a fruit smoothie or ice cream or something of the sort? Or maybe hide Nature Calm in orange juice? Another option could be Juice Plus gummies. They taste and look like gummie bears. My son LOVED them and they worked well. www.juiceplus.com There's also someone on the list that is a Juice Plus rep, she could help, too. Not a fun place to be. Good luck!I forgot to add that she has always been breastfed and otherwise healthy without any major issues such as eczema, chronic respiratory/ear issues, etc. Thanks Z>> Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and read posts or search for ideas.> > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but that ). > > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now. > > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot. > > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing if possible (very common when she gets so close). > > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she wakes up.> > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where I can buy more fruit and veggies.> > So my first question is:> What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them. > > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> > Thanks so much!> >

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hanks Tracie, yes she likes gummies so I was trying to read about the Juice Plus

gummies to see what it is that makes them work but couldn't find anything yet.

Can you or anyone tell me offhand what makes it work?

About the gluten - I have a friend who's son has Aspergers and we've always

talked about going gluten and even trying casein free but I haven't been able to

figure out how to do it on a financially tight budget and at the moment no car

to get to places that give me a decent selection of foods. I will say that we

were trying to avoid a lot of bread a couple of weeks ago which is when I pushed

the fruit and it helped a bit. I think as we get through this I will talk to my

friend more about how we could try out a GF diet.

Thanks

Z

> >

> > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything

> before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any

> quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and

> read posts or search for ideas.

> >

> > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since

> around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I

> wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished

> in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about

> everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress,

> etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a

> year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths,

> magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and

> even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered

> because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but

> that ).

> >

> > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I

> know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.

> >

> > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things

> have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped

> her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a

> couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because

> we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much

> anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.

> >

> > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural

> things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but

> that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's

> not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So

> this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her

> tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing

> if possible (very common when she gets so close).

> >

> > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring

> myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene

> Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was

> very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having

> complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which

> I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she

> wakes up.

> >

> > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics

> butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car

> beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where

> I can buy more fruit and veggies.

> >

> > So my first question is:

> > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?

> >

> > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you

> do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding

> HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her

> things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.

> >

> > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?

> >

> > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?

> >

> > Thanks so much!

> >

> >

>

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will most likely comment and help you with the gummies. In the meantime, try the website and read what you can about them. As for going GF on a tight budget, here's what I suggest: first, cut out bread and pasta. You'd generally be safe...Then, print the lists below and carry them with you when you go to the grocery store. Many products have gluten hiding in them (gravy, taco seasoning, seasonings, boxed rice, some candy, breading on chicken nuggets/fish sticks, etc). Never go out to eat. If you do go out to eat, stay away from anything fried (it's usually fried with products with gluten). Keep safe with baked potatoes, salad or plain chicken breast. In order to see if gluten is the problem, you have to keep away from it COMPLETELY. Even the tiniest amount can reinjure the gut and cause a 6-mo set-back. Forbidden Foods: http://www.celiac.com/articles/182/1/Unsafe-Gluten-Free-Food-List-Unsafe-Ingredients/Page1.htmlSafe Foods: http://www.celiac.com/articles/181/1/Safe-Gluten-Free-Food-List-Safe-Ingredients/Page1.htmlTracie On Feb 18, 2011, at 8:43 AM, zurro wrote:hanks Tracie, yes she likes gummies so I was trying to read about the Juice Plus gummies to see what it is that makes them work but couldn't find anything yet. Can you or anyone tell me offhand what makes it work?About the gluten - I have a friend who's son has Aspergers and we've always talked about going gluten and even trying casein free but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it on a financially tight budget and at the moment no car to get to places that give me a decent selection of foods. I will say that we were trying to avoid a lot of bread a couple of weeks ago which is when I pushed the fruit and it helped a bit. I think as we get through this I will talk to my friend more about how we could try out a GF diet. Thanks Z> >> > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and > read posts or search for ideas.> >> > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but > that ).> >> > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.> >> > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.> >> > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So > this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing > if possible (very common when she gets so close).> >> > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she > wakes up.> >> > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where > I can buy more fruit and veggies.> >> > So my first question is:> > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> >> > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.> >> > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> >> > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> >> > Thanks so much!> > > >>

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Are you able to get even the Pedia-Lax quick dissolve strips - notes that they use Senna as the laxative? It may help and/or do you think she'd drink some warm prune juice?

Hope she gets it out and though Miralax may not be your first choice if it's a matter of getting it out at this time and being in pain with it then perhaps just a wee dose to get her comfortable. I imagine she's really uncomfortable.

Good luck!

hanks Tracie, yes she likes gummies so I was trying to read about the Juice Plus gummies to see what it is that makes them work but couldn't find anything yet. Can you or anyone tell me offhand what makes it work?About the gluten - I have a friend who's son has Aspergers and we've always talked about going gluten and even trying casein free but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it on a financially tight budget and at the moment no car to get to places that give me a decent selection of foods. I will say that we were trying to avoid a lot of bread a couple of weeks ago which is when I pushed the fruit and it helped a bit. I think as we get through this I will talk to my friend more about how we could try out a GF diet. Thanks Z> >> > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and > read posts or search for ideas.> >> > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but > that ).> >> > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.> >> > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.> >> > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So > this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing >

if possible (very common when she gets so close).> >> > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she > wakes up.> >> > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking

at the Kirklands probiotics > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where > I can buy more fruit and veggies.> >> > So my first question is:> > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> >> > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her > things she

asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.> >> > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> >> > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> >> > Thanks so much!> > > >>

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We were just in a similar spot a couple of days ago. I ended up using two heaping teaspoons of Natural Calm. I used the unflavored and dissolved it in ½ grape juice ½ water. I let it sit for quite a while before giving it to her because it is sour if you give it too quickly (I use it myself). It worked pretty quickly. The initial movement was painful for her, poor kid was so uncomfortable, but enormous relief afterwards. We are keeping her on a maintenance dose of natural calm (which is really difficult to adjust imho to find the right ‘softness’) and so far so good. It might be a great initial clean out for her and then you could find another maintenance solution.We are gfcfsf over here and initially the TACA site was really helpful. They have some great ideas for a budget and a transition (though we went cold turkey). It’s much less expensive to make things from scratch than to buy prepared and at the moment there are also some decent mixes that do not cost a fortune. Wishing you all the best! From: miralax [mailto:miralax ] On Behalf Of zurroSent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:44 AMTo: miralax Subject: Re: Need help now with BM! hanks Tracie, yes she likes gummies so I was trying to read about the Juice Plus gummies to see what it is that makes them work but couldn't find anything yet. Can you or anyone tell me offhand what makes it work?About the gluten - I have a friend who's son has Aspergers and we've always talked about going gluten and even trying casein free but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it on a financially tight budget and at the moment no car to get to places that give me a decent selection of foods. I will say that we were trying to avoid a lot of bread a couple of weeks ago which is when I pushed the fruit and it helped a bit. I think as we get through this I will talk to my friend more about how we could try out a GF diet. Thanks Z> >> > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and > read posts or search for ideas.> >> > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but > that ).> >> > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.> >> > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.> >> > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So > this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing > if possible (very common when she gets so close).> >> > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she > wakes up.> >> > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where > I can buy more fruit and veggies.> >> > So my first question is:> > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> >> > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.> >> > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> >> > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> >> > Thanks so much!> > > >>

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Here’s a link as well http://www.tacanow.org/tag/gfcf/ From: miralax [mailto:miralax ] On Behalf Of Tracie HappelSent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:52 AMTo: miralax Subject: Re: Re: Need help now with BM! will most likely comment and help you with the gummies. In the meantime, try the website and read what you can about them. As for going GF on a tight budget, here's what I suggest: first, cut out bread and pasta. You'd generally be safe...Then, print the lists below and carry them with you when you go to the grocery store. Many products have gluten hiding in them (gravy, taco seasoning, seasonings, boxed rice, some candy, breading on chicken nuggets/fish sticks, etc). Never go out to eat. If you do go out to eat, stay away from anything fried (it's usually fried with products with gluten). Keep safe with baked potatoes, salad or plain chicken breast. In order to see if gluten is the problem, you have to keep away from it COMPLETELY. Even the tiniest amount can reinjure the gut and cause a 6-mo set-back. Forbidden Foods: http://www.celiac.com/articles/182/1/Unsafe-Gluten-Free-Food-List-Unsafe-Ingredients/Page1.htmlSafe Foods: http://www.celiac.com/articles/181/1/Safe-Gluten-Free-Food-List-Safe-Ingredients/Page1.html Tracie On Feb 18, 2011, at 8:43 AM, zurro wrote:hanks Tracie, yes she likes gummies so I was trying to read about the Juice Plus gummies to see what it is that makes them work but couldn't find anything yet. Can you or anyone tell me offhand what makes it work?About the gluten - I have a friend who's son has Aspergers and we've always talked about going gluten and even trying casein free but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it on a financially tight budget and at the moment no car to get to places that give me a decent selection of foods. I will say that we were trying to avoid a lot of bread a couple of weeks ago which is when I pushed the fruit and it helped a bit. I think as we get through this I will talk to my friend more about how we could try out a GF diet. Thanks Z> >> > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and > read posts or search for ideas.> >> > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but > that ).> >> > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.> >> > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.> >> > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So > this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing > if possible (very common when she gets so close).> >> > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she > wakes up.> >> > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where > I can buy more fruit and veggies.> >> > So my first question is:> > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> >> > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.> >> > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> >> > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> >> > Thanks so much!> > > >>

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I haven't heard of the TACA site. Can you send the link? Thanks!We were just in a similar spot a couple of days ago. I ended up using two heaping teaspoons of Natural Calm. I used the unflavored and dissolved it in ½ grape juice ½ water. I let it sit for quite a while before giving it to her because it is sour if you give it too quickly (I use it myself). It worked pretty quickly. The initial movement was painful for her, poor kid was so uncomfortable, but enormous relief afterwards. We are keeping her on a maintenance dose of natural calm (which is really difficult to adjust imho to find the right ‘softness’) and so far so good. It might be a great initial clean out for her and then you could find another maintenance solution.We are gfcfsf over here and initially the TACA site was really helpful. They have some great ideas for a budget and a transition (though we went cold turkey). It’s much less expensive to make things from scratch than to buy prepared and at the moment there are also some decent mixes that do not cost a fortune. Wishing you all the best! From: miralax [mailto:miralax ] On Behalf Of zurroSent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:44 AMTo: miralax Subject: Re: Need help now with BM! hanks Tracie, yes she likes gummies so I was trying to read about the Juice Plus gummies to see what it is that makes them work but couldn't find anything yet. Can you or anyone tell me offhand what makes it work?About the gluten - I have a friend who's son has Aspergers and we've always talked about going gluten and even trying casein free but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it on a financially tight budget and at the moment no car to get to places that give me a decent selection of foods. I will say that we were trying to avoid a lot of bread a couple of weeks ago which is when I pushed the fruit and it helped a bit. I think as we get through this I will talk to my friend more about how we could try out a GF diet. Thanks Z> >> > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and > read posts or search for ideas.> >> > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but > that ).> >> > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.> >> > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.> >> > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So > this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing > if possible (very common when she gets so close).> >> > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she > wakes up.> >> > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where > I can buy more fruit and veggies.> >> > So my first question is:> > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> >> > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.> >> > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> >> > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> >> > Thanks so much!> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Hi , Have you considered a glycerin enema for a clean-out? Feet's makes a good one - the one with the short nozzle worked for us like a charm. also, we give my now 3.4 DD vitamin C gummies daily. we cut out cow's milk - it was her trigger - and kept her on formula. she can tolerate everything else, it seems - pizza, whole wheat breads and pastas, but milk even in pancakes will make her skip days. these days she's goes 2x a day w/o any pain and always a good consistency, although they tend to be rather large BMs.during the worst of it, we never let her go beyond 3 days w/o a BM. we would always use Fleet's glycerin suppository and it always worked within minutes. The worst part was administering it as she didn't exactly lay passively

through the process.Good luck to you!!To: miralax Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 9:43:51 AMSubject: Re: Need help now with BM!

hanks Tracie, yes she likes gummies so I was trying to read about the Juice Plus gummies to see what it is that makes them work but couldn't find anything yet. Can you or anyone tell me offhand what makes it work?

About the gluten - I have a friend who's son has Aspergers and we've always talked about going gluten and even trying casein free but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it on a financially tight budget and at the moment no car to get to places that give me a decent selection of foods. I will say that we were trying to avoid a lot of bread a couple of weeks ago which is when I pushed the fruit and it helped a bit. I think as we get through this I will talk to my friend more about how we could try out a GF diet.

Thanks

Z

> >

> > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything

> before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any

> quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and

> read posts or search for ideas.

> >

> > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since

> around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I

> wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished

> in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about

> everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress,

> etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a

> year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths,

> magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and

> even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered

> because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but

> that ).

> >

> > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I

> know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.

> >

> > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things

> have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped

> her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a

> couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because

> we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much

> anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.

> >

> > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural

> things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but

> that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's

> not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So

> this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her

> tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing

> if possible (very common when she gets so close).

> >

> > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring

> myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene

> Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was

> very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having

> complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which

> I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she

> wakes up.

> >

> > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics

> butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car

> beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where

> I can buy more fruit and veggies.

> >

> > So my first question is:

> > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?

> >

> > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you

> do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding

> HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her

> things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.

> >

> > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?

> >

> > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?

> >

> > Thanks so much!

> >

> >

>

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*Fleet's* (not Feets)Hi , Have you considered a glycerin enema for a clean-out? Feet's makes a good one - the one with the short nozzle worked for us like a charm. also, we give my now 3.4 DD vitamin C gummies daily. we cut out cow's milk - it was her trigger - and kept her on formula. she can tolerate everything else, it seems - pizza, whole wheat breads and pastas, but milk even in pancakes will make her skip days. these days she's goes 2x a day w/o any pain and always a good consistency, although they tend to be rather large BMs.during the worst of it, we never let her go beyond 3 days w/o a BM. we would always use Fleet's glycerin suppository and it always worked within minutes. The worst part was administering it as she didn't exactly lay passively through the process.Good luck to you!!To: miralax Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 9:43:51 AMSubject: Re: Need help now with BM! hanks Tracie, yes she likes gummies so I was trying to read about the Juice Plus gummies to see what it is that makes them work but couldn't find anything yet. Can you or anyone tell me offhand what makes it work?About the gluten - I have a friend who's son has Aspergers and we've always talked about going gluten and even trying casein free but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it on a financially tight budget and at the moment no car to get to places that give me a decent selection of foods. I will say that we were trying to avoid a lot of bread a couple of weeks ago which is when I pushed the fruit and it helped a bit. I think as we get through this I will talk to my friend more about how we could try out a GF diet. Thanks Z> >> > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and > read posts or search for ideas.> >> > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but > that ).> >> > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.> >> > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.> >> > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So > this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing > if possible (very common when she gets so close).> >> > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she > wakes up.> >> > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where > I can buy more fruit and veggies.> >> > So my first question is:> > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> >> > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.> >> > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> >> > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> >> > Thanks so much!> > > >>

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yes - not Feet's. LOL. at least i got the "l" in on the 2nd go around. :DTo: miralax Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 3:27:30 PMSubject: Re: Re: Need help now with BM!

*Fleet's* (not Feets)Hi , Have you considered a glycerin enema for a clean-out? Feet's makes a good one - the one with the short nozzle worked for us like a charm. also, we give my now

3.4 DD vitamin C gummies daily. we cut out cow's milk - it was her trigger - and kept her on formula. she can tolerate everything else, it seems - pizza, whole wheat breads and pastas, but milk even in pancakes will make her skip days. these days she's goes 2x a day w/o any pain and always a good consistency, although they tend to be rather large BMs.during the worst of it, we never let her go beyond 3 days w/o a BM. we would always use Fleet's glycerin suppository and it always worked within minutes. The worst part was administering it as she didn't exactly lay passively through the process.Good luck to you!!To: miralax Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 9:43:51 AMSubject: Re: Need help now with BM! hanks Tracie, yes she likes gummies so I was trying to read about the Juice Plus gummies to see what it

is that makes them work but couldn't find anything yet. Can you or anyone tell me offhand what makes it work?About the gluten - I have a friend who's son has Aspergers and we've always talked about going gluten and even trying casein free but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it on a financially tight budget and at the moment no car to get to places that give me a decent selection of foods. I will say that we were trying to avoid a lot of bread a couple of weeks ago which is when I pushed the fruit and it helped a bit. I think as we get through this I will talk to my friend more about how we could try out a GF diet. Thanks Z> >> > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back

and > read posts or search for ideas.> >> > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but > that ).> >> > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.> >> > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped > her at all. She is now on day 9 with

no BM and that's only happened a > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.> >> > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So > this BM that she hasn't passed is

probably very dry. When I rub her > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing > if possible (very common when she gets so close).> >> > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll

even drink it when she > wakes up.> >> > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where > I can buy more fruit and veggies.> >> > So my first question is:> > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> >> > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating

because I give her > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.> >> > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> >> > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> >> > Thanks so much!> > > >>

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You got it, baby!! yes - not Feet's. LOL. at least i got the "l" in on the 2nd go around. :DTo: miralax Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 3:27:30 PMSubject: Re: Re: Need help now with BM! *Fleet's* (not Feets)Hi , Have you considered a glycerin enema for a clean-out? Feet's makes a good one - the one with the short nozzle worked for us like a charm. also, we give my now 3.4 DD vitamin C gummies daily. we cut out cow's milk - it was her trigger - and kept her on formula. she can tolerate everything else, it seems - pizza, whole wheat breads and pastas, but milk even in pancakes will make her skip days. these days she's goes 2x a day w/o any pain and always a good consistency, although they tend to be rather large BMs.during the worst of it, we never let her go beyond 3 days w/o a BM. we would always use Fleet's glycerin suppository and it always worked within minutes. The worst part was administering it as she didn't exactly lay passively through the process.Good luck to you!!To: miralax Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 9:43:51 AMSubject: Re: Need help now with BM! hanks Tracie, yes she likes gummies so I was trying to read about the Juice Plus gummies to see what it is that makes them work but couldn't find anything yet. Can you or anyone tell me offhand what makes it work?About the gluten - I have a friend who's son has Aspergers and we've always talked about going gluten and even trying casein free but I haven't been able to figure out how to do it on a financially tight budget and at the moment no car to get to places that give me a decent selection of foods. I will say that we were trying to avoid a lot of bread a couple of weeks ago which is when I pushed the fruit and it helped a bit. I think as we get through this I will talk to my friend more about how we could try out a GF diet. Thanks Z> >> > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and > read posts or search for ideas.> >> > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but > that ).> >> > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.> >> > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.> >> > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So > this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing > if possible (very common when she gets so close).> >> > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she > wakes up.> >> > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where > I can buy more fruit and veggies.> >> > So my first question is:> > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> >> > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.> >> > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> >> > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> >> > Thanks so much!> > > >>

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so I did actually buy the babylax liquid enema when I was out today but had no

luck getting it anywhere near her tonight We " administered " it to her My

Little Ponies but when it came time for her she wrapped herself up in the

blanket and wouldn't let me. I'm actually not sure I even needed it tonight

anyway since I did give her the gycerin suppository this morning. Tonight she

had a bit of leakage twice but managed to hold through again...

I just want to make sure I clarify also that it's not that she gets

automatically constipated but that she manages to hold through every time she

feels the urge to go and will walk around holding her butt.

Hoping for tomorrow since we got to the grocery and stocked up on lots of

watermelon, some more fruit, grape juice, and the rest of the jars of pears and

prunes. She drank a lot of coconut water tonight and hopefully with the car soon

we'll be able to get out to get fresh coconuts (we're in Miami ).

Thanks for all the suggestions and support today - it's so emotionally draining

for both of us and I sometimes feel like I'm going to kill the strong bond and

trust of my normally loving and very trusting daughter.

Z

> > >

> > > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything

> > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any

> > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and

> > read posts or search for ideas.

> > >

> > > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since

> > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I

> > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished

> > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about

> > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress,

> > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a

> > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths,

> > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and

> > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered

> > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but

> > that ).

> > >

> > > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I

> > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.

> > >

> > > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things

> > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped

> > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a

> > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because

> > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much

> > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.

> > >

> > > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural

> > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but

> > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's

> > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So

> > this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her

> > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing

> > if possible (very common when she gets so close).

> > >

> > > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring

> > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene

> > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was

> > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having

> > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which

> > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she

> > wakes up.

> > >

> > > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics

> > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car

> > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where

> > I can buy more fruit and veggies.

> > >

> > > So my first question is:

> > > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?

> > >

> > > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you

> > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding

> > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her

> > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.

> > >

> > > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?

> > >

> > > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?

> > >

> > > Thanks so much!

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Also get some mango. We were told it was very good for constipation. A cancer clinic uses it offset constipation in it's patients. so I did actually buy the babylax liquid enema when I was out today but had no luck getting it anywhere near her tonight We "administered" it to her My Little Ponies but when it came time for her she wrapped herself up in the blanket and wouldn't let me. I'm actually not sure I even needed it tonight anyway since I did give her the gycerin suppository this morning. Tonight she had a bit of leakage twice but managed to hold through again...I just want to make sure I clarify also that it's not that she gets automatically constipated but that she manages to hold through every time she feels the urge to go and will walk around holding her butt. Hoping for tomorrow since we got to the grocery and stocked up on lots of watermelon, some more fruit, grape juice, and the rest of the jars of pears and prunes. She drank a lot of coconut water tonight and hopefully with the car soon we'll be able to get out to get fresh coconuts (we're in Miami ). Thanks for all the suggestions and support today - it's so emotionally draining for both of us and I sometimes feel like I'm going to kill the strong bond and trust of my normally loving and very trusting daughter. Z> > >> > > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything > > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any > > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and > > read posts or search for ideas.> > >> > > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since > > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I > > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished > > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about > > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, > > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a > > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, > > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and > > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered > > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but > > that ).> > >> > > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I > > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.> > >> > > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things > > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped > > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a > > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because > > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much > > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.> > >> > > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural > > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but > > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's > > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So > > this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her > > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing > > if possible (very common when she gets so close).> > >> > > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring > > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene > > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was > > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having > > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which > > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she > > wakes up.> > >> > > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics > > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car > > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where > > I can buy more fruit and veggies.> > >> > > So my first question is:> > > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> > >> > > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you > > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding > > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her > > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.> > >> > > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> > >> > > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> > >> > > Thanks so much!> > > > > >> >>

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my son was doing the same for a year though I think he was constipated despite going every day it was always hard and small and at some point he started holding then in turn when he did let it go it was painful. he would walk tiptoe and clench. though now he is trained on potty and poops on the potty he will still attempt to hide and hold but he easily allows me to guide to the bathroom to release & is happy when done. i am one of few who gives miralax but i like to be on the board to read ideas of when i'm ready to get him off, as one day i will. he is extremely picky in terms of food and though he eats some fruits & veg's it's very little. am just afraid to retreat from the miralax and personality much better when he has a BM than when he was holding and not going. he gets 1 tspn every day and compared to

some others I've read this is almost nothing.

it's a tough road and i expect when my son goes to kindergarten he may regress so not ready to go off miralax but we talk about eating fruits & veg's to go potty and be healthy so i know i will wean him slowly in this year to see if he is ready just don't want him to have a painful bm to cause any further regression.

to each his own here and i love to read what others use because it will be important for me when the weaning time comes.

thanks for all who share here.

-meredith

Subject: Re: Need help now with BM!To: miralax Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 12:48 AM

so I did actually buy the babylax liquid enema when I was out today but had no luck getting it anywhere near her tonight We "administered" it to her My Little Ponies but when it came time for her she wrapped herself up in the blanket and wouldn't let me. I'm actually not sure I even needed it tonight anyway since I did give her the gycerin suppository this morning. Tonight she had a bit of leakage twice but managed to hold through again...I just want to make sure I clarify also that it's not that she gets automatically constipated but that she manages to hold through every time she feels the urge to go and will walk around holding her butt. Hoping for tomorrow since we got to the grocery and stocked up on lots of watermelon, some more fruit, grape juice, and the rest of the jars of pears and prunes. She drank a lot of coconut water tonight and hopefully with the car soon we'll be able to get out to get fresh coconuts (we're in

Miami ). Thanks for all the suggestions and support today - it's so emotionally draining for both of us and I sometimes feel like I'm going to kill the strong bond and trust of my normally loving and very trusting daughter. Z> > >> > > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything > > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any > > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and > > read posts or search for

ideas.> > >> > > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since > > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I > > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished > > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about > > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, > > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a > > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, > > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and > > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered > > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but > > that ).> > >> > > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us

(and I > > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.> > >> > > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things > > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped > > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a > > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because > > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much > > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.> > >> > > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural > > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but > > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's > > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So > >

this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her > > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing > > if possible (very common when she gets so close).> > >> > > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring > > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene > > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was > > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having > > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which > > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she > > wakes up.> > >> > > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics > > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car > > beginning next

week it will be easier again to get out to places where > > I can buy more fruit and veggies.> > >> > > So my first question is:> > > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> > >> > > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you > > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding > > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her > > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.> > >> > > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> > >> > > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> > >> > > Thanks so much!> > > > > >> >>

[Guest guest]

This breaks my heart to hear what wrote as we are only listening to our medical professionals.

"it's so emotionally draining for both of us and I sometimes feel like I'm going to kill the strong bond and trust of my normally loving and very trusting daughter." , kirkman probiotic chewables were a god sent for us and no more enema's or suppositories EVER again. Kirkman's probiotics produced a bm that was strain free. I can't say enough about them. They are expensive but nothing's too expensive for a child with constipation, it's horrible. They taste sweet and easy for children to take.

Senario.....................when women have a yeast infection and you go to the doctor they give you a anti-fungal cream and all that good stuff! Little does everyone know that a probiotic will clear it up, building the good bacteria vs. killing it

To: miralax Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 11:48:14 PMSubject: Re: Need help now with BM!

so I did actually buy the babylax liquid enema when I was out today but had no luck getting it anywhere near her tonight We "administered" it to her My Little Ponies but when it came time for her she wrapped herself up in the blanket and wouldn't let me. I'm actually not sure I even needed it tonight anyway since I did give her the gycerin suppository this morning. Tonight she had a bit of leakage twice but managed to hold through again...I just want to make sure I clarify also that it's not that she gets automatically constipated but that she manages to hold through every time she feels the urge to go and will walk around holding her butt. Hoping for tomorrow since we got to the grocery and stocked up on lots of watermelon, some more fruit, grape juice, and the rest of the jars of pears and prunes. She drank a lot of coconut water tonight and hopefully with the car soon we'll be able to get out to get fresh coconuts (we're in Miami

). Thanks for all the suggestions and support today - it's so emotionally draining for both of us and I sometimes feel like I'm going to kill the strong bond and trust of my normally loving and very trusting daughter. Z> > >> > > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything > > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any > > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and > > read posts or search for ideas.> > >> > > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since > > around two. I believe it all

began with a huge painful poop but I > > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished > > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about > > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, > > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a > > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, > > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and > > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered > > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but > > that ).> > >> > > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I > > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.> > >> > > My husband is out of state

working and we've had no car so things > > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped > > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a > > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because > > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much > > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.> > >> > > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural > > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but > > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's > > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So > > this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her > > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing

> > if possible (very common when she gets so close).> > >> > > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring > > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene > > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was > > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having > > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which > > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she > > wakes up.> > >> > > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics > > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car > > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where > > I can buy more fruit and veggies.> > >> > > So my first

question is:> > > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> > >> > > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you > > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding > > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her > > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.> > >> > > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> > >> > > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> > >> > > Thanks so much!> > > > > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I pasted it then moved things around and forgot to re-paste

http://kirkmanlabs.com/ViewProductDetails@Product_ID@184@Product_Group_ID@...

To: miralax Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 3:13:56 PMSubject: Re: Re: Need help now with BM!

This breaks my heart to hear what wrote as we are only listening to our medical professionals.

"it's so emotionally draining for both of us and I sometimes feel like I'm going to kill the strong bond and trust of my normally loving and very trusting daughter." , kirkman probiotic chewables were a god sent for us and no more enema's or suppositories EVER again. Kirkman's probiotics produced a bm that was strain free. I can't say enough about them. They are expensive but nothing's too expensive for a child with constipation, it's horrible. They taste sweet and easy for children to take.

Senario.....................when women have a yeast infection and you go to the doctor they give you a anti-fungal cream and all that good stuff! Little does everyone know that a probiotic will clear it up, building the good bacteria vs. killing it

To: miralax Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 11:48:14 PMSubject: Re: Need help now with BM!

so I did actually buy the babylax liquid enema when I was out today but had no luck getting it anywhere near her tonight We "administered" it to her My Little Ponies but when it came time for her she wrapped herself up in the blanket and wouldn't let me. I'm actually not sure I even needed it tonight anyway since I did give her the gycerin suppository this morning. Tonight she had a bit of leakage twice but managed to hold through again...I just want to make sure I clarify also that it's not that she gets automatically constipated but that she manages to hold through every time she feels the urge to go and will walk around holding her butt. Hoping for tomorrow since we got to the grocery and stocked up on lots of watermelon, some more fruit, grape juice, and the rest of the jars of pears and prunes. She drank a lot of coconut water tonight and hopefully with the car soon we'll be able to get out to get fresh coconuts (we're in Miami

). Thanks for all the suggestions and support today - it's so emotionally draining for both of us and I sometimes feel like I'm going to kill the strong bond and trust of my normally loving and very trusting daughter. Z> > >> > > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything > > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any > > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and > > read posts or search for ideas.> > >> > > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since > > around two. I

believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I > > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished > > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about > > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, > > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a > > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, > > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and > > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered > > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but > > that ).> > >> > > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I > > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.> > >> > > My husband is

out of state working and we've had no car so things > > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped > > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a > > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because > > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much > > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.> > >> > > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural > > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but > > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's > > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So > > this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her > > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is

avoiding peeing > > if possible (very common when she gets so close).> > >> > > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring > > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene > > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was > > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having > > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which > > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she > > wakes up.> > >> > > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics > > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car > > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where > > I can buy more fruit and veggies.> > >> >

> So my first question is:> > > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> > >> > > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you > > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding > > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her > > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.> > >> > > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> > >> > > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> > >> > > Thanks so much!> > > > > >> >>

[Guest guest]

SUCCESS yesterday poor thing but it's done Thanks everyone for all your

support and suggestions. I will be implementing a lot of the ideas that were

given and also picked up some 's aloe vera yesterday which she's already

getting. We did a lot of fruit, and some purees, and this morning papaya,

strawberry juice, a grape juice/magnesium popsicle and she 's been peeing

normally till this afternoon when she started putting her hand on her butt again

but the great thing is it's only the day after rather than four days so I have

high hopes she may not be able to wait it out this time.

I think I'll be spending a lot of time here reading to see what combination we

can come up with that works for us.

Thanks again and hope everyone has a great week!

Z

> > > >

> > > > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything

> > > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any

> > > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and

> > > read posts or search for ideas.

> > > >

> > > > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since

> > > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I

> > > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished

> > > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about

> > > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress,

> > > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a

> > > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths,

> > > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and

> > > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered

> > > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but

> > > that ).

> > > >

> > > > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I

> > > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.

> > > >

> > > > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things

> > > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped

> > > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a

> > > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because

> > > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much

> > > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.

> > > >

> > > > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural

> > > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but

> > > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's

> > > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So

> > > this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her

> > > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing

> > > if possible (very common when she gets so close).

> > > >

> > > > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring

> > > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene

> > > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was

> > > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having

> > > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which

> > > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she

> > > wakes up.

> > > >

> > > > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics

> > > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car

> > > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where

> > > I can buy more fruit and veggies.

> > > >

> > > > So my first question is:

> > > > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you

> > > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding

> > > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her

> > > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.

> > > >

> > > > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?

> > > >

> > > > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks so much!

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, I just want to tell you this from the experience and the don'ts I had to learn the hard way on................be careful with aloe vera juice, start drinking it yourself and make sure they don't know it's to help them go potty. The more conconctions we come up with to help them go, the more in tune they become with holding and refusing to hear about another one of our remedies!!! (doing just the opposite) This may be one reason why my dd would take the probiotic, it was the best tasting and easiest route for her. There was noooo way she was drinking that stuff.

To: miralax Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 11:51:10 PMSubject: Re: Need help now with BM!

SUCCESS yesterday poor thing but it's done Thanks everyone for all your support and suggestions. I will be implementing a lot of the ideas that were given and also picked up some 's aloe vera yesterday which she's already getting. We did a lot of fruit, and some purees, and this morning papaya, strawberry juice, a grape juice/magnesium popsicle and she 's been peeing normally till this afternoon when she started putting her hand on her butt again but the great thing is it's only the day after rather than four days so I have high hopes she may not be able to wait it out this time.I think I'll be spending a lot of time here reading to see what combination we can come up with that works for us. Thanks again and hope everyone has a great week! Z> > > >> > > > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything > > > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any > > > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and > > > read posts or search for ideas.> > > >> > > > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since > > > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I > >

> wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished > > > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about > > > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, > > > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a > > > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, > > > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and > > > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered > > > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but > > > that ).> > > >> > > > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I > > > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.> > > >> > > > My husband

is out of state working and we've had no car so things > > > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped > > > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a > > > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because > > > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much > > > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.> > > >> > > > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural > > > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but > > > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's > > > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So > > > this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her > >

> tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing > > > if possible (very common when she gets so close).> > > >> > > > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring > > > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene > > > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was > > > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having > > > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which > > > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she > > > wakes up.> > > >> > > > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics > > > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car > > > beginning next week it will

be easier again to get out to places where > > > I can buy more fruit and veggies.> > > >> > > > So my first question is:> > > > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> > > >> > > > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you > > > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding > > > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her > > > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.> > > >> > > > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> > > >> > > > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> > > >> > > > Thanks so much!> > > > > > > >> > >>

>>

[Guest guest]

Someone mentioned mango - yes, that's one of those fruits that's good for the

bowels (until you get acclimatised to it?!)

Avocado can be good - if you can persuade your DD to eat it (try with a

vinaigrette dressing).

Obviously your struggle to give enemas and suppositories sounds familiar to me -

since they're the only things that always work on mine I've had to learn to

force them on her (not nice)

> > > >

> > > > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything

> > > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any

> > > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and

> > > read posts or search for ideas.

> > > >

> > > > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since

> > > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I

> > > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished

> > > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about

> > > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress,

> > > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a

> > > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths,

> > > magnesium on and off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and

> > > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered

> > > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but

> > > that ).

> > > >

> > > > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I

> > > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.

> > > >

> > > > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things

> > > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped

> > > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's only happened a

> > > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because

> > > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much

> > > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.

> > > >

> > > > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural

> > > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but

> > > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's

> > > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So

> > > this BM that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her

> > > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing

> > > if possible (very common when she gets so close).

> > > >

> > > > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring

> > > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene

> > > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was

> > > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having

> > > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which

> > > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she

> > > wakes up.

> > > >

> > > > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics

> > > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car

> > > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where

> > > I can buy more fruit and veggies.

> > > >

> > > > So my first question is:

> > > > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you

> > > do to get through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding

> > > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her

> > > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.

> > > >

> > > > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?

> > > >

> > > > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks so much!

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Mango has natural digestive enzymes so it should certainly help, but if your DD is willfully withholding, then the only way to get her to go would be to make the stool so loose that she will be unable to hold it back for any length of time.I'm sorry, I can't recall now if you mentioned that there was something in her life that triggered this withholding pattern, such as a divorce and again, sorry if you already mentioned this, but talk therapy may be in order if the above is the case.To: miralax Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 7:11:07 AMSubject: Re: Re: Need help now with BM!

Also get some mango. We were told it was very good for constipation. A cancer clinic uses it offset constipation in it's patients. so I did actually buy the babylax liquid enema when I was out today but had no luck getting it anywhere near her tonight We "administered" it to her My Little Ponies but when it came time for her she wrapped herself up in the blanket and

wouldn't let me. I'm actually not sure I even needed it tonight anyway since I did give her the gycerin suppository this morning. Tonight she had a bit of leakage twice but managed to hold through again...I just want to make sure I clarify also that it's not that she gets automatically constipated but that she manages to hold through every time she feels the urge to go and will walk around holding her butt. Hoping for tomorrow since we got to the grocery and stocked up on lots of watermelon, some more fruit, grape juice, and the rest of the jars of pears and prunes. She drank a lot of coconut water tonight and hopefully with the car soon we'll be able to get out to get fresh coconuts (we're in Miami ). Thanks for all the suggestions and support today - it's so emotionally draining for both of us and I sometimes feel like I'm going to

kill the strong bond and trust of my normally loving and very trusting daughter. Z> > >> > > Hi everyone, I can't remember if I've posted an intro or anything > > before but just in case I'll do it again and see if there are any > > quick suggestions as I usually don't have much time to go back and > > read posts or search for

ideas.> > >> > > Our daughter is four and has been having withholding issues since > > around two. I believe it all began with a huge painful poop but I > > wasn't really aware at that time about what could happen. She finished > > in her cloth diapers around 18 months and we were very relaxed about > > everything so I'm not sure why it even happened (ie food, stress, > > etc). I didn't really become aware of what could happen until around a > > year ago and at that time we were trying warm epsom salt baths, > > magnesium on and

off since I had the kid's one and she hated it, and > > even one shot with suppostories (which she obviously remembered > > because I was going to try last night and she asked for anything but > > that ).> > >> > > It's been a long, painful, and upsetting road for all of us (and I > > know we're not alone) but I really want to get a handle on this now.> > >> > > My husband is out of state working and we've had no car so things > > have been overwhelming at times and I'm sure the stress has not helped > > her at all. She is now on day 9 with no BM and that's

only happened a > > couple of times before. Her belly is not as distended as usual because > > we were doing a lot more fruit and now she doesn't want to eat much > > anyway. This time around she is also avoiding drinking a lot.> > >> > > I've always avoided Miralax and tried to stay with more natural > > things, and we stay away from fruit drinks that she might drink but > > that are loaded with corn syrup and such. Sometimes I wonder if it's > > not just better to get her to drink more even if it's not healthy. So > > this BM

that she hasn't passed is probably very dry. When I rub her > > tummy I can feel everything on both sides and she is avoiding peeing > > if possible (very common when she gets so close).> > >> > > I bought a saline laxative last night because I just couldnt' bring > > myself to buy the Miralax but never realized it has the Polyproplene > > Glycol in it... Last night she was struggling not to go and it was > > very traumatic for both of us when she managed to not go while having > > complete meltdowns because of the pain. I made a magnesium drink which > > I've refrigerated but don't know if she'll even drink it when she > > wakes up.> > >> > > I've ordered FruitEze and am looking at the Kirklands probiotics > > butdon't know if she'll even eat them. I think once we have a car > > beginning next week it will be easier again to get out to places where > > I can buy more fruit and veggies.> > >> > > So my first question is:> > > What can I try short of Miralax to get this BM passed?> > >> > > Has anyone else dealt with the not drinking issue and what did you > > do to get

through it? (especially is you lean to the side of avoiding > > HFCS and such). It's gettig really frustrating because I give her > > things she asks for and then she just doesn't drink them.> > >> > > Are there some links to non Miralax protocols that I can try as well?> > >> > > Anything else off the top of anyone's head?> > >> > > Thanks so much!> > > > > >> >>