Guest guest Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 I just want to elaborate on parasites because many people with Lyme don't know the relationship between parasites and Lyme and why this occurs. Most Lyme sufferers are also unaware that they have a leaky gut that causes food sensitivities, that they're also not aware of. Here's how it works: Either alone or combined, Borrelia and mercury toxicity cause terrain issues in the gut. All humans consume many parasites on a daily basis, especially when eating in a restaurant. In a healthy gut, parasites do not find favorable conditions to stick around and they are killed by the immune system or carried out through the feces. In a Lyme sufferer, the terrain in the gut is very favorable to their survival and it provides the right conditions for them to thrive and survive. And so they do. Once they are entrenched in the gut, they pee and poo in our system. Their pee and poo add to our toxic body burden and they increase our symptoms. These parasites burrow into our guts and make little microscopic holes through which food passes into the body cavity undigested. Then the immune system reacts to these proteins and it becomes a form of autoimmune disease called " leaky gut syndrome. " In other words we become allergic to foods that we eat on a regular basis. These allergies are delayed, thus when we feel the symptoms of them, we don't correlate them to the foods we ate. It can take several hours to several days for the symptoms of a food allergie to manifest itself. The net result is that we feel worse, not only due to the added toxins from the parasites peeing and pooing, but we also feel worse from the food allergies they cause. The species of parasites that thrive in Lyme patients are many. Some are microscopic, some are not. I know of a few people who have reported seeing 4 to 7-foot tapeworms come out in their stool after taking anti-parasitic herbs. Others have reported goo coming out of their eyes after taking the anti-parasitics. These are the parasites climbing out of the body from the brain as fast as they can. There is a doctor in south Florida who has reported success in treating treats Lyme patients not by attempting to kill the Borrelia, but by healing the leaky gut and getting the gut terrain back to good health. When the gut and the digestive system are working optimally, the immune system can kill the Lyme and coinfections by itself--or at least that's the theory. But when you have parasites and your immune system is wasting its energy with food reactions and attacking joints, it has no energy left to stand a fighting chance against Lyme. So the point of my post is, that everyone with Lyme has stomach terrain issues, whether they took abx or not. All Lyme sufferers need to address parasites, yeast, and fungal overgrowth in their fight against Lyme. This is why I'm interested in the effectiveness of zappers--because the herbs I've been taking might become less effective over time due to the parasites' ability to build up a resistance to them. THey can't built a resistance to getting zapped, so if zapping works, it might be something for me to switch to later on. > > Thanks. That's encouraging. I will keep experimenting and continue to post my results. > > Steve > > " One person can make a difference. " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Hi Chaps,This is so well explained! Thanks; it's a keeper.In addition to several hundred lyme-parasite Rife frx I run monthly, I take diatomaceous earth daily. I don't seem to have food sensitivities, except to nightshades which I've had all my life. I'm also taking 15g of S & C , which should be making my terrain pretty hostile, I'd hope. Are parasites able to build a resistance to S & C and DE as well as herbs? I just want to leave no stone unturned here.Be well,LénaI just want to elaborate on parasites because many people with Lyme don't know the relationship between parasites and Lyme and why this occurs. Most Lyme sufferers are also unaware that they have a leaky gut that causes food sensitivities, that they're also not aware of.Here's how it works: Either alone or combined, Borrelia and mercury toxicity cause terrain issues in the gut. All humans consume many parasites on a daily basis, especially when eating in a restaurant. In a healthy gut, parasites do not find favorable conditions to stick around and they are killed by the immune system or carried out through the feces.In a Lyme sufferer, the terrain in the gut is very favorable to their survival and it provides the right conditions for them to thrive and survive. And so they do. Once they are entrenched in the gut, they pee and poo in our system. Their pee and poo add to our toxic body burden and they increase our symptoms. These parasites burrow into our guts and make little microscopic holes through which food passes into the body cavity undigested. Then the immune system reacts to these proteins and it becomes a form of autoimmune disease called "leaky gut syndrome." In other words we become allergic to foods that we eat on a regular basis. These allergies are delayed, thus when we feel the symptoms of them, we don't correlate them to the foods we ate. It can take several hours to several days for the symptoms of a food allergie to manifest itself. The net result is that we feel worse, not only due to the added toxins from the parasites peeing and pooing, but we also feel worse from the food allergies they cause.The species of parasites that thrive in Lyme patients are many. Some are microscopic, some are not. I know of a few people who have reported seeing 4 to 7-foot tapeworms come out in their stool after taking anti-parasitic herbs.Others have reported goo coming out of their eyes after taking the anti-parasitics. These are the parasites climbing out of the body from the brain as fast as they can.There is a doctor in south Florida who has reported success in treating treats Lyme patients not by attempting to kill the Borrelia, but by healing the leaky gut and getting the gut terrain back to good health. When the gut and the digestive system are working optimally, the immune system can kill the Lyme and coinfections by itself--or at least that's the theory. But when you have parasites and your immune system is wasting its energy with food reactions and attacking joints, it has no energy left to stand a fighting chance against Lyme.So the point of my post is, that everyone with Lyme has stomach terrain issues, whether they took abx or not. All Lyme sufferers need to address parasites, yeast, and fungal overgrowth in their fight against Lyme.This is why I'm interested in the effectiveness of zappers--because the herbs I've been taking might become less effective over time due to the parasites' ability to build up a resistance to them. THey can't built a resistance to getting zapped, so if zapping works, it might be something for me to switch to later on.>> Thanks. That's encouraging. I will keep experimenting and continue to post my results.> > Steve> > "One person can make a difference." > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Thanks Lena. Actually, the whole issue of parasite becoming resistant to any of the treatments is a controversial one. The makers of one brand of herbs recommend that their product be taken for no longer than 30 days with at least a 90 day break in between repeating them. The purpose of this, they say, is to not allwo them to build up a resistance to the herbs. Other people, however insist that they have taken herbal products for over a year and they still remained effective. So I guess it's debatable. Salt/C is VERY effective against parasites and I'd be willing to bet that there's a smaller chance of them becoming resistant to the salt than to the herbs. The salt and the herbs work differently. The concentration of salt kills the parasites on contact. Herbs are actually consumed by the parasites and then they die from the consumption. Cloves kill the parasite eggs. The reason parasites are so hard to kill is that they are constantly laying large numbers of eggs, and when they die, they expel hundreds of them, leaving them behind to hatch. These things are geared for survival and perpetuation of the species. Anyway, I don't think I've answered your question because the whole thing about resistance is like I said, controversial. Well wishes, Chaps > > Hi Chaps, > > This is so well explained! Thanks; it's a keeper. > > In addition to several hundred lyme-parasite Rife frx I run monthly, I > take diatomaceous earth daily. I don't seem to have food > sensitivities, except to nightshades which I've had all my life. I'm > also taking 15g of S & C , which should be making my terrain pretty > hostile, I'd hope. > > Are parasites able to build a resistance to S & C and DE as well as > herbs? I just want to leave no stone unturned here. > > Be well, > Léna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Chaps:I tend to agree with you about lyme and a leaky gut. My LLND suggested that I probably have this problem. I get food sensitivities and I have a hard time taking supplements because I build up an intolerance to them after two or three months of taking them. That's why I don't take many supplements, especially on a consistent basis. I appreciate your explanation.Steve "One person can make a difference." I just want to elaborate on parasites because many people with Lyme don't know the relationship between parasites and Lyme and why this occurs. Most Lyme sufferers are also unaware that they have a leaky gut that causes food sensitivities, that they're also not aware of. Here's how it works: Either alone or combined, Borrelia and mercury toxicity cause terrain issues in the gut. All humans consume many parasites on a daily basis, especially when eating in a restaurant. In a healthy gut, parasites do not find favorable conditions to stick around and they are killed by the immune system or carried out through the feces. In a Lyme sufferer, the terrain in the gut is very favorable to their survival and it provides the right conditions for them to thrive and survive. And so they do. Once they are entrenched in the gut, they pee and poo in our system. Their pee and poo add to our toxic body burden and they increase our symptoms. These parasites burrow into our guts and make little microscopic holes through which food passes into the body cavity undigested. Then the immune system reacts to these proteins and it becomes a form of autoimmune disease called "leaky gut syndrome." In other words we become allergic to foods that we eat on a regular basis. These allergies are delayed, thus when we feel the symptoms of them, we don't correlate them to the foods we ate. It can take several hours to several days for the symptoms of a food allergie to manifest itself. The net result is that we feel worse, not only due to the added toxins from the parasites peeing and pooing, but we also feel worse from the food allergies they cause. The species of parasites that thrive in Lyme patients are many. Some are microscopic, some are not. I know of a few people who have reported seeing 4 to 7-foot tapeworms come out in their stool after taking anti-parasitic herbs. Others have reported goo coming out of their eyes after taking the anti-parasitics. These are the parasites climbing out of the body from the brain as fast as they can. There is a doctor in south Florida who has reported success in treating treats Lyme patients not by attempting to kill the Borrelia, but by healing the leaky gut and getting the gut terrain back to good health. When the gut and the digestive system are working optimally, the immune system can kill the Lyme and coinfections by itself--or at least that's the theory. But when you have parasites and your immune system is wasting its energy with food reactions and attacking joints, it has no energy left to stand a fighting chance against Lyme. So the point of my post is, that everyone with Lyme has stomach terrain issues, whether they took abx or not. All Lyme sufferers need to address parasites, yeast, and fungal overgrowth in their fight against Lyme. This is why I'm interested in the effectiveness of zappers--because the herbs I've been taking might become less effective over time due to the parasites' ability to build up a resistance to them. THey can't built a resistance to getting zapped, so if zapping works, it might be something for me to switch to later on. > > Thanks. That's encouraging. I will keep experimenting and continue to post my results. > > Steve > > "One person can make a difference." > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 I agree with everything Chap said except one thing. Leaky Gut is caused by parasites and constipation, but the reason the parasites are present in the gut is most often due to low stomach acid. The low stomach acid is what changes the terrain to make it favorable for the bugs. Just like low Adrenal and Thyroid hormone makes one constipated. Dr Klinghart has found that most people with Lyme suffer from low stomach acid. He has had some success increasing stomach acid for those who suffer from Kryptopyroluria upping their zinc levels, as well as the other supplements required on the protocol. Those patient who have tested positive for the presence of pyrrols in their uring also report that they start dumping heavy metals while on the protocol. Healing the gut is very important, but it must first start with stomach acid. It is the acidic environment of the stomach that parasites cannot survive. If you do not make enough stomach acid, they pass right on through and set up shop. 90% of the immune system is in the gut, but if one does not make adrenal hormones they die. I believe balancing the hormones is equally important to fixing the gut. I take HCL/Betaine 3-4 with each meal. Digestive enzymes with meals. 4 Inflazyme upon rising and before bed and two Dr. Ohira's probiotics a day. I have brought myself back from multiple chemical sensitivity with a combination of good digestive support and doing NAET treatments on myself to eliminate allergies. There really is no one reason that Lyme disease happens, it is usually a bunch of different issues, hormone imbalances, Kryptopyroluria, porphyria, Methylation problems due to Genetic Mutations, Leaky Gut due to low stomach acid, poor diet that erode ones health to the point of giving the critters the upper hand. Dr Klinghart has studied Lyme exclusively for many years and if it was as simple as healing the gut, many of us would be better by now. > > > > > > Thanks. That's encouraging. I will keep experimenting and continue to post my results. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > " One person can make a difference. " > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Hi everyone, Someone from our group emailed me privately about my zapper experience. Since I promised to report back to the group, below is my response. It has been fun experimenting with my zapper. If I would have been so liberal experimenting with my Doug Coil, it probably would have killed me because it is so much more powerful. I've gone from doing one to two hour sessions a day to 20 minute sessions every six hours just to see what happens. I still get ear ringing at 20 minutes and sometimes with less time. From 30 minutes to an hour I can get some herx symptoms and some creepy crawlies. From an hour to 2 hours, I definitely get a herx and more creepy crawlies. I'm convinced that I'm killing parasites with it. There are other side effects. I think it has helped me sleep better (maybe because of some of the herxing). A few times I woke up in the morning with this wonderful clear brain and happy feeling as if it affected the seratonin in my brain or something. Thus far, I haven't figured out exactly what to do to get that good brain feeling everytime. I'd really have something if I could figure out how to feel like that every morning. LOL. Last night I coiled on my Doug Coil (42 seconds, my max so far), and then did 20 minutes on my zapper just before going to bed. I woke up at 3:00 a.m. Both my ears were ringing so bad it felt like my head was going to explode, but it settled down not too long after that. It's noon here in Utah and both my ears are still ringing and I have a pretty good herx this morning. I sat in the hot tub and steam room at Gold's Gym this morning, which seemed to help the herx. I haven't missed a day doing some kind of zapping and it has affected me every time with at least ear ringing and some minor creepy crawlies (other lyme symptoms crop up with longer zapping). I like zapping inbetween my coiling sessions. It seems to have helped me with my ph problems too. I check that every day and I have had more alkaline days than acidic days since using the zapper. I have no idea how to explain that. Anyway, I'm still experimenting and having fun with it along the way. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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