Re: two comments on names....

[Guest guest]

Jerry wrote:

> 1. " Dove " is not a normal male name in the USA. It may be in some

>other culture, but not here.

>I don't know Portia's ethnicity. Her husband is Jewish. A male " Dove " may

>fly well in a kibbutz but not in a nation where such folks are less than 2%

>of the population.

As someone already told you (though I can't remember who),

the name is not Dove, it is Dov.

Jane

[Guest guest]

Jane wrote:

> Jerry wrote:

> > 1. " Dove " is not a normal male name in the USA.

> > It may be in some other culture, but not here.

> > I don't know Portia's ethnicity.

I've never seen her, but she's obviously " Bitchish " .

> > Her husband is Jewish. A male " Dove " may fly well

> > in a kibbutz but not in a nation where such folks

> > are less than 2% of the population.

I thought they were about 4 or 5 %. (Not a big difference.)

> As someone already told you (though I can't remember who),

> the name is not Dove, it is Dov.

> Jane

It was Camille who told us how to spell it, Jane who

told us how to pronounce it, and I'm saying it doesn't

make any difference how you spell or pronounce it, it

still sucks as a name for a boy in this country. (Not

bad for a girl, though). And I'm not sure that having

the name Duck was the only reason that boy killed

himself. Parents who would name a child that had to be

abusive in many other ways as well.

I speak as one who Knows. I can remember complaining

about my name to my father when I was 5 or 6 yrs old.

When I said that I didn't like to tell people my name,

he said that I should say, " I'm Pudding Tame, ask me

again, and I'll tell you the same. " This made me think

he didn't have my welfare at heart. Another time I men-

tioned it to him, he said that my mother had named me

that, but if it were up to him, he would have named me

" Percy " . He explained that it would get me into plenty

of fights, and " make a man out of me " . Remember the

song by ny Cash, " A Boy Named Sue " ? That was the idea.

And no, don't bother asking what my name used to be.

Clay

[Guest guest]

Speaking of babble-on and martial arts, were you ever into Sumer

wrestling? Maybe you just didn't want to gain that much weight.

Camille

> K (as in the letter) - Den (as in the room).

>

> Stress on the first syllable.

>

> People ask me the nationality of it all the time. I tend to lie

constantly

> about it. The true facts: " Kaiden " is a term for a person who has

completed

> a complete school of martial arts, and would be qualified to teach

it. In

> Sumerian, KA-ID-EN means Spirit-Flowing-Lord. I've

found, " Sumerian " is my

> favorite answer to the nationality question, because...

well... " Oh, are you

> Sumerian? " is such a funny question to be asked. When I was a

history

> major, I would perservate about Sumeria, and I would (warning, bad

pun

> ahead), babble-on (ack, there it was!) about the ancient

Mesopotamian

> cultures.

>

>

> Re: Re: two comments on names....

>

>

> > This message from Kaiden Fox arched across the cosmos:

> > > " Hello, my

> > >name is Kaiden... how may I help you? "

> >

> > I've been wondering for a while now -- how do you pronounce

> > it? Kay-den? Kye-den?

> >

> >

> > DeGraf ~*~ http://www.sonic.net/mustang/moggy

[Guest guest]

Clay wrote:

>It was Camille who told us how to spell it, Jane who

>told us how to pronounce it, and I'm saying it doesn't

>make any difference how you spell or pronounce it, it

>still sucks as a name for a boy in this country. (Not

>bad for a girl, though). And I'm not sure that having

>the name Duck was the only reason that boy killed

>himself. Parents who would name a child that had to be

>abusive in many other ways as well.

I don't think Dov and Duck are comparable. If

the name Dov is given as part of the family's culture,

it can be a source of strength. One of the professors

where I work has a son named Amram. That is not a

" normal " (Anglo-European) name, but it is part of the

family's culture and the family is very actively

living their cultural values. I suspect the meaning

a family givea a name, and the support the family gives

to that meaning on a daily basis, makes the difference.

Jane