Re: I'm so tired of this pain!

[Guest guest]

I do the 2 days liver flush, and colonics. this has been th emost effective detox I found until recently

I had the lee crock machine at night that do a pretty good job I do not have pain now so I do not know if it works for pain I read that some do th efrequency 880 and it stopps the pain Jim do the DMSO locally ont he area and it works. I took once for an unbearable pain cannabis in a legal way in Switzerland it worked like a miracle . i thealed me for good my shoulder in just a week I had a frozen shoulder for 3 monthes ...

I just healed a girlfreind of mine from her back pain with ozone cupping it took just a few dasy she was scheduled for surgery , I did ozonated oil on my frozen shoulder and it di drelived it temporarly only I di dnot do the cupping. I tryed injecting underthe skin it id dnot work.

Hope this help some what

with a hug Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 5:40:36 PMSubject: I'm so tired of this pain!

Hello,

I will make this short cause I can't sit up for very long. I am using homeopathic remedies to treat Lyme and under the care of a naturopath. I started a month ago and these past 2 weeks have been awful! I thought I was in pain before treatment. hah! I feel like my whole body is badly bruised and stiff and the past 2 days my shoulder and neck are very stiff. I am tensing up my body because I'm in so much pain.

What do you all do for the pain? I take 2 tramadol a day and 1 or 2 muscle relaxers plus Aleive but it barely touches it. Good thing I don't work because I can barely take care of my 13 yr. old. I am getting real depressed too. I have been doing epsom salt baths and dry skin brushing. Please help!

Thanks very much,

Tammy

[Guest guest]

Hi Tammy,So sorry you're hurting.You haven't said what substances you're taking, but I'm assuming you're herxing from killing Lyme. I'm afraid the onset of tackling Lyme often makes us feel a lot worse before feeling better. My first herx was a horrific, ten-day experience that eclipsed my earlier experience of back-ache labor with my first child! if I hadn't known what was happening I would have been in a terrible state of panic and fear, and would probably have gone to an E.R. where things would have been futile, or worse for the long-term outcome. Most pain remedies don't seem to do much for herx pain and they can further burden the liver, which is already struggling with the burden of die-off. Alka-Seltzer Gold or Baking Soda can help alkalize and reduce pain somewhat, as can water with fresh lemon. Your epsom salts baths will ease things somewhat. French green clay or bentonite can help bind toxins and carry them off quicker. Drinking lots of good water is essential, to help the body rid itself of the die-off toxins. Mag oil sprayed on the body at 50% strength, can help, and, for that matter, extra magnesium and potassium can ease the muscle pain...a lot.If you're in a herx, this is sign to back down on killing a bit until the herx abates, otherwise you'll simply be piling on more toxins that the body must struggle with.Coffee enemas are a truly effective way to detox and they've always shortened my herxes and lessened their severity. They are the mainstay of my Lyme recovery.Most experienced, recovering Lymies will concur. Detox should be a solid third of the over-all fight in dealing with Lyme.I hear you about the tensing up. Find any means at your disposal to relax: music, mantras, prayers, singing, self-hypnosis, silly movies to distract, DEEP BREATHING, and taking inventory: muscle by muscle, to consciously relax each muscle group, over and over, if necessary. Tension will only sap energy you need. Like in prepared childbirth, if you can get on top of the pain with shallow breathing and then deep, cleansing breaths, continually monitoring unnecessary tightness everywhere, and also monitoring your mind: repeating 'I can do this', 'This will pass'. It WILL. As they say, 'Adversity introduces us to ourselves' and healing Lyme is an arduous course in learning about yourself and how strong you can really be. (not bad stuff for anyone to acquire, even though we Lymies are acquiring it under duress.)Lyme treatment is all about pace, not race: ramping up slowly on killing protocols, easing off when the herxes get really strong. Any other approach, from what most people have experienced here, is counter-productive. You're not alone. We're here, and we're getting well, but it's a long road, not to be rushed.Be well,Léna Hello, I will make this short cause I can't sit up for very long. I am using homeopathic remedies to treat Lyme and under the care of a naturopath. I started a month ago and these past 2 weeks have been awful! I thought I was in pain before treatment. hah! I feel like my whole body is badly bruised and stiff and the past 2 days my shoulder and neck are very stiff. I am tensing up my body because I'm in so much pain. What do you all do for the pain? I take 2 tramadol a day and 1 or 2 muscle relaxers plus Aleive but it barely touches it. Good thing I don't work because I can barely take care of my 13 yr. old. I am getting real depressed too. I have been doing epsom salt baths and dry skin brushing. Please help! Thanks very much, Tammy

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lena!

I am using homeopathic remedies from Deseret Biologicals. This one is called Borrelia Series Therapy. Yes, it's definitely herxing that I'm going through. Okay, I drink a lot of pure water with C-salt, take 1,000mg of mag., and sometimes squeeze lemon in my water but I'm going to do this every day now. How do you use the baking soda? I can buy some potassium capsules and bentonite clay. How do you do coffee enemas?

Thanks for your help!

Tammy

So sorry you're hurting.

You haven't said what substances you're taking, but I'm assuming you're herxing from killing Lyme. I'm afraid the onset of tackling Lyme often makes us feel a lot worse before feeling better. My first herx was a horrific, ten-day experience that eclipsed my earlier experience of back-ache labor with my first child! if I hadn't known what was happening I would have been in a terrible state of panic and fear, and would probably have gone to an E.R. where things would have been futile, or worse for the long-term outcome.

Most pain remedies don't seem to do much for herx pain and they can further burden the liver, which is already struggling with the burden of die-off. Alka-Seltzer Gold or Baking Soda can help alkalize and reduce pain somewhat, as can water with fresh lemon. Your epsom salts baths will ease things somewhat. French green clay or bentonite can help bind toxins and carry them off quicker. Drinking lots of good water is essential, to help the body rid itself of the die-off toxins. Mag oil sprayed on the body at 50% strength, can help, and, for that matter, extra magnesium and potassium can ease the muscle pain...a lot.

If you're in a herx, this is sign to back down on killing a bit until the herx abates, otherwise you'll simply be piling on more toxins that the body must struggle with.

Coffee enemas are a truly effective way to detox and they've always shortened my herxes and lessened their severity. They are the mainstay of my Lyme recovery.Most experienced, recovering Lymies will concur. Detox should be a solid third of the over-all fight in dealing with Lyme.

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

What's a liver flush? I wish I could afford just 1 or 2 colonics.

Tammy

I do the 2 days liver flush, and colonics. this has been th emost effective detox I found until recently

I had the lee crock machine at night that do a pretty good job I do not have pain now so I do not know if it works for pain I read that some do th efrequency 880 and it stopps the pain Jim do the DMSO locally ont he area and it works. I took once for an unbearable pain cannabis in a legal way in Switzerland it worked like a miracle . i thealed me for good my shoulder in just a week I had a frozen shoulder for 3 monthes ...

I just healed a girlfreind of mine from her back pain with ozone cupping it took just a few dasy she was scheduled for surgery , I did ozonated oil on my frozen shoulder and it di drelived it temporarly only I di dnot do the cupping. I tryed injecting underthe skin it id dnot work.

Hope this help some what

with a hug Marie

[Guest guest]

Hi Tammy,I'm hoping some others will chime in too, because there's a wealth of info here among the experienced Lymies in this group. I hope you can go through the archives, too, because there's a lot more to know that could get you up to speed. Also, you may want to check out: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/ this is a great site whose central protocol is the Salt and C treatment of Lyme, which I consider one of the best protocols I've used to beat this disease.Alka-Seltzer Gold is easy and more pleasant to drink, but a teaspoon of B.S in a few oz of water, although not as tasty, will do the same thing and more cheaply. I put my B.S. in capsule form, because it's easier to take.Be sure to sip your lemon water through a straw: that's less hard on your tooth enamel, as it's still acidic in the mouth and only turns alkaline after it's metabolized.This is a low-volume, easy-to-do coffee enema that works for me.I was

told to take chlorella sometime before doing the CE, (it'll bind heavy metals dumped by the liver so they can't recirculate) so I take the tablets orally

before my morning b.m. and then, after that occurs, I do my CE.As

for my procedure, here it is: Short

version: First

have a bowel movement (to make space). 8oz

Faultless enema bulb (google it) Organic

instant coffee (NOT decaf. I use Mount Hagen which has no additives, but there

are purists who say one should only use brewed coffee. if I had to do that, I

probably wouldn't comply for very long. This way, I've been able to keep up the

regime now for over two years, missing very few mornings) Waterproof

pad on bed. Put hot

tap water ( if good water) in sm. teapot, add 1-2 tsp inst. coffee, stir,

pour into enema bulb. Lubricate

bulb's tip with virgin coconut oil, Lie on

right side and gently insert. (You can first do in bathroom, just in case, but

bed usually works out very easily) Takes a little practice, but you'll quickly

get the hang of it. Once tip

is fully in place, squeeze/wrap the bulb around thumb as you squeeze to get max

volume. Hold

for 15-20 min., or more, if the book you're reading is that good. Evacuate. This

works for me. Many people use the larger enema bags, with hoses and clips, and

lie on a pad on the bathroom floor. they are more effective, but I was traumatized by this as a kid

(pin-worms) and only did it a couple times as a grown-up Lymie. Great for those

who can do it, but my low-volume efforts, done daily, seem to help the detox

process very nicely.Be well,Léna

Thanks Lena! I am using homeopathic remedies from Deseret Biologicals. This one is called Borrelia Series Therapy. Yes, it's definitely herxing that I'm going through. Okay, I drink a lot of pure water with C-salt, take 1,000mg of mag., and sometimes squeeze lemon in my water but I'm going to do this every day now. How do you use the baking soda? I can buy some potassium capsules and bentonite clay. How do you do coffee enemas? Thanks for your help! Tammy So sorry you're hurting.You haven't said what substances you're taking, but I'm assuming you're herxing from killing Lyme. I'm afraid the onset of tackling Lyme often makes us feel a lot worse before feeling better. My first herx was a horrific, ten-day experience that eclipsed my earlier experience of back-ache labor with my first child! if I hadn't known what was happening I would have been in a terrible state of panic and fear, and would probably have gone to an E.R. where things would have been futile, or worse for the long-term outcome. Most pain remedies don't seem to do much for herx pain and they can further burden the liver, which is already struggling with the burden of die-off. Alka-Seltzer Gold or Baking Soda can help alkalize and reduce pain somewhat, as can water with fresh lemon. Your epsom salts baths will ease things somewhat. French green clay or bentonite can help bind toxins and carry them off quicker. Drinking lots of good water is essential, to help the body rid itself of the die-off toxins. Mag oil sprayed on the body at 50% strength, can help, and, for that matter, extra magnesium and potassium can ease the muscle pain...a lot.If you're in a herx, this is sign to back down on killing a bit until the herx abates, otherwise you'll simply be piling on more toxins that the body must struggle with.Coffee enemas are a truly effective way to detox and they've always shortened my herxes and lessened their severity. They are the mainstay of my Lyme recovery.Most experienced, recovering Lymies will concur. Detox should be a solid third of the over-all fight in dealing with Lyme.

[Guest guest]

put on the window for searchin gin this forum liver cleanse

if you do no tfind it i put it back for you cost nothing and as effective just we cannot do it mor ethat once every two weeks

the colema is 250 dollar it is like one third of 1/2 a colonic and you pay just for the material once then you do it at home

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 7:35:33 PMSubject: Re: I'm so tired of this pain!

Hi Marie,

What's a liver flush? I wish I could afford just 1 or 2 colonics.

Tammy

I do the 2 days liver flush, and colonics. this has been th emost effective detox I found until recently

I had the lee crock machine at night that do a pretty good job I do not have pain now so I do not know if it works for pain I read that some do th efrequency 880 and it stopps the pain Jim do the DMSO locally ont he area and it works. I took once for an unbearable pain cannabis in a legal way in Switzerland it worked like a miracle . i thealed me for good my shoulder in just a week I had a frozen shoulder for 3 monthes ...

I just healed a girlfreind of mine from her back pain with ozone cupping it took just a few dasy she was scheduled for surgery , I did ozonated oil on my frozen shoulder and it di drelived it temporarly only I di dnot do the cupping. I tryed injecting underthe skin it id dnot work.

Hope this help some what

with a hug Marie

[Guest guest]

Hi Tammy I would talk to your homeopath and explain that you can't cope with this herx -- treatments should not be unbearable!

Debra

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Friday, 25 February, 2011 22:40:36Subject: I'm so tired of this pain!

Hello,

I will make this short cause I can't sit up for very long. I am using homeopathic remedies to treat Lyme and under the care of a naturopath. I started a month ago and these past 2 weeks have been awful! I thought I was in pain before treatment. hah! I feel like my whole body is badly bruised and stiff and the past 2 days my shoulder and neck are very stiff. I am tensing up my body because I'm in so much pain.

What do you all do for the pain? I take 2 tramadol a day and 1 or 2 muscle relaxers plus Aleive but it barely touches it. Good thing I don't work because I can barely take care of my 13 yr. old. I am getting real depressed too. I have been doing epsom salt baths and dry skin brushing. Please help!

Thanks very much,

Tammy

[Guest guest]

Hi Tammy,

The good news is that the homeopathics are working as it is typical for symptoms

to get worse before they get better. If you are seeing a homeopath, is it

possible that they could give you a homeopathic version of a pain killer such as

Indomethicin or rheumadyl? I have really found the homeopathic versions to work

quite well for pain without all of the toxic side effects. Also, you should

learn to do EFT. Many of our emotions will manifest as pain in our bodies.

Emotions such as stressful events can actually be stored in places in your body

such as your back or your shoulders. I have found that emotions play a huge

role in pain. Learning to tap on the emotional events that manifest as pain can

release pain from your body. If you don't know what emotions caused the pain,

then you can just tap on the pain directly. If the pain starts moving around

your body, then you know that your pain is emotionally based. When we are sick,

it is hard to separate emotions from our illness, since emotions can play such a

huge role in the symptoms that are manifested from our illness.

>

> Hello,

>

> I will make this short cause I can't sit up for very long. I am using

> homeopathic remedies to treat Lyme and under the care of a naturopath. I

started

> a month ago and these past 2 weeks have been awful! I thought I was in

> pain before treatment. hah! I feel like my whole body is badly bruised and

> stiff and the past 2 days my shoulder and neck are very stiff. I am tensing

up

> my body because I'm in so much pain.

>

> What do you all do for the pain? I take 2 tramadol a day and 1 or 2 muscle

> relaxers plus Aleive but it barely touches it. Good thing I don't work

> because I can barely take care of my 13 yr. old. I am getting real depressed

> too. I have been doing epsom salt baths and dry skin brushing. Please help!

>

> Thanks very much,

>

> Tammy

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sherry,

I do two to three coffee enemas a day. I have found that they are so effective,

that if I get feeling a little toxic, I go do another CE. I am also finding

that putting binders in the CE really works well. I place drops of liquid

Zeolite and Chlorella directly into the coffee. I just use organic coffee from

Costco. I tried the 's but thought it was expensive, it smelled stale and

I didn't think it was any more effective. I have even opened capsules of EDTA

and put them in the coffee enemas. I also attribute the liquid Redi-sorb

Glutathione placed in my Coffee enema as getting me past my sensitivity to

plastics. You can't get a better delivery system for Milk Thistle or other

herbs then the coffee enema as they go directly to the liver bypassing the

stomach. My annual heavy metals test have come down significantly in the last

two years and I attribute it to the aggressive detoxing with Coffee Enemas.

Prior to Coffee Enemas, they were continuing to climb in spite of having

occasional DMPS infusions. Coffee enemas are a very powerful tool in our detox

arsenal.

>

> I agree with Lena that C.E. are the mainstay of detox and its the first line

of defense for me for lyme pain; nothing has come close to working as well as

this for me. I buy organic green coffee from S.A. 's online, and they

also have inexpensive enema bags that I like.

>

> I'm now enhancing the effect of the C.E. by: taking 2 capsules of charcoal and

for a stronger herx a laxative (big dose of Vit C)in addition to the

charcoal--both at the start of the C.E., and then 2 more capsules of charcoal at

the 15 minute point during the C.E. I'm also taking cholestyramine at that

point on a heavy herx day and plan to check with my LLMD about the best timing

for that. Sometimes I take Nanoteck Chitosan at the beginning of the C.E. and

plan to check with my LLMD about how to time that one too.

>

> I noticed much more effectiveness when I added the charcoal (you can use any

binder you tolerate), and another amount of effectiveness when I added the

laxative. The cholestyramine and chitosan seem to be helping as well. The

point is, it is moving more neurotoxins through the system and also binding them

up.

>

> I've read that for cancer patients sometimes they do three C.E.s a day, so I'm

not afraid of it and do it twice on herx days with huge benefit.

>

> I also use Progena's Pro-Trauma for pain relief.

>

> Sherry

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this info . I'm taking this along to my LLMD tomorrow to

discuss how I might further enhance my detox in this way. My heavy metals were

better this winter than a year ago too, but are still high.

Sherry

> >

> > I agree with Lena that C.E. are the mainstay of detox and its the first line

of defense for me for lyme pain; nothing has come close to working as well as

this for me. I buy organic green coffee from S.A. 's online, and they

also have inexpensive enema bags that I like.

> >

> > I'm now enhancing the effect of the C.E. by: taking 2 capsules of charcoal

and for a stronger herx a laxative (big dose of Vit C)in addition to the

charcoal--both at the start of the C.E., and then 2 more capsules of charcoal at

the 15 minute point during the C.E. I'm also taking cholestyramine at that

point on a heavy herx day and plan to check with my LLMD about the best timing

for that. Sometimes I take Nanoteck Chitosan at the beginning of the C.E. and

plan to check with my LLMD about how to time that one too.

> >

> > I noticed much more effectiveness when I added the charcoal (you can use any

binder you tolerate), and another amount of effectiveness when I added the

laxative. The cholestyramine and chitosan seem to be helping as well. The

point is, it is moving more neurotoxins through the system and also binding them

up.

> >

> > I've read that for cancer patients sometimes they do three C.E.s a day, so

I'm not afraid of it and do it twice on herx days with huge benefit.

> >

> > I also use Progena's Pro-Trauma for pain relief.

> >

> > Sherry

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I just want to add that EFT and other similar techniques are very powerful and

even are being used effectively with people who have experienced a lot of

emotional trauma. Its worth learning and trying.

That's not to say that lyme symptoms/pain are " all in our heads. " We are

dealing with a real physical illness. But I've become increasingly respectful

of the mind/body connection and benefiting one area benefits another.

Sherry

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I will make this short cause I can't sit up for very long. I am using

> > homeopathic remedies to treat Lyme and under the care of a naturopath. I

started

> > a month ago and these past 2 weeks have been awful! I thought I was in

> > pain before treatment. hah! I feel like my whole body is badly bruised and

> > stiff and the past 2 days my shoulder and neck are very stiff. I am tensing

up

> > my body because I'm in so much pain.

> >

> > What do you all do for the pain? I take 2 tramadol a day and 1 or 2 muscle

> > relaxers plus Aleive but it barely touches it. Good thing I don't work

> > because I can barely take care of my 13 yr. old. I am getting real

depressed

> > too. I have been doing epsom salt baths and dry skin brushing. Please help!

> >

> > Thanks very much,

> >

> > Tammy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Boy do I agree with you and on this subject!!! I have had a lot of emotional trauma from childhood that I've been trying to deal with. I am going to check out the EFT.

Thanks,

Tammy

I just want to add that EFT and other similar techniques are very powerful and even are being used effectively with people who have experienced a lot of emotional trauma. Its worth learning and trying.That's not to say that lyme symptoms/pain are "all in our heads." We are dealing with a real physical illness. But I've become increasingly respectful of the mind/body connection and benefiting one area benefits another. Sherry

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your ideas .

Sherry

do you use the cholesteramine chitosan or charcoal in the aeneam or by mouth please?

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 2:24:20 PMSubject: Re: I'm so tired of this pain!

Thanks for this info . I'm taking this along to my LLMD tomorrow to discuss how I might further enhance my detox in this way. My heavy metals were better this winter than a year ago too, but are still high.Sherry> >> > I agree with Lena that C.E. are the mainstay of detox and its the first line of defense for me for

lyme pain; nothing has come close to working as well as this for me. I buy organic green coffee from S.A. 's online, and they also have inexpensive enema bags that I like.> > > > I'm now enhancing the effect of the C.E. by: taking 2 capsules of charcoal and for a stronger herx a laxative (big dose of Vit C)in addition to the charcoal--both at the start of the C.E., and then 2 more capsules of charcoal at the 15 minute point during the C.E. I'm also taking cholestyramine at that point on a heavy herx day and plan to check with my LLMD about the best timing for that. Sometimes I take Nanoteck Chitosan at the beginning of the C.E. and plan to check with my LLMD about how to time that one too.> > > > I noticed much more effectiveness when I added the charcoal (you can use any binder you tolerate), and another amount of effectiveness when I added the laxative. The cholestyramine and chitosan seem to be helping as

well. The point is, it is moving more neurotoxins through the system and also binding them up.> > > > I've read that for cancer patients sometimes they do three C.E.s a day, so I'm not afraid of it and do it twice on herx days with huge benefit.> > > > I also use Progena's Pro-Trauma for pain relief.> > > > Sherry> >>

[Guest guest]

Marie,

Cholestyramine, chitosan, charcoal, are by mouth. I discussed this yesterday

with my LLMD and he said that liquids will be absorbed okay in the C.E. but

herbs (powdered, etc.) wouldn't be absorbed very well. I used my injectable GSH

and added 1 cc to the coffee with good effect, per his suggestion too.

Sherry

>

> Thank you for your ideas .

>  Sherry

> do you use the cholesteramine chitosan  or charcoal in the aeneam or by mouth

> please?

> Marie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

yes Sherry ,

it should no tbe absobed by th eintestins as we take them to absorb th etoxine sin the intestine and eliminate them throught the sttool.

What is GSH please

Thank you Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 10:42:44 AMSubject: Re: I'm so tired of this pain!

Marie, Cholestyramine, chitosan, charcoal, are by mouth. I discussed this yesterday with my LLMD and he said that liquids will be absorbed okay in the C.E. but herbs (powdered, etc.) wouldn't be absorbed very well. I used my injectable GSH and added 1 cc to the coffee with good effect, per his suggestion too.Sherry>> Thank you for your ideas .>  Sherry > do you use the cholesteramine chitosan  or charcoal in the aeneam or by mouth > please?> Marie> > >

Yes it should no

[Guest guest]

Take those by mouth since they need to be in place before you do the CE.

> > >

> > > I agree with Lena that C.E. are the mainstay of detox and its the first

line

> >of defense for me for lyme pain; nothing has come close to working as well as

> >this for me. I buy organic green coffee from S.A. 's online, and they

also

> >have inexpensive enema bags that I like.

> > >

> > > I'm now enhancing the effect of the C.E. by: taking 2 capsules of charcoal

> >and for a stronger herx a laxative (big dose of Vit C)in addition to the

> >charcoal--both at the start of the C.E., and then 2 more capsules of charcoal

at

> >the 15 minute point during the C.E. I'm also taking cholestyramine at that

point

> >on a heavy herx day and plan to check with my LLMD about the best timing for

> >that. Sometimes I take Nanoteck Chitosan at the beginning of the C.E. and

plan

> >to check with my LLMD about how to time that one too.

> > >

> > > I noticed much more effectiveness when I added the charcoal (you can use

any

> >binder you tolerate), and another amount of effectiveness when I added the

> >laxative. The cholestyramine and chitosan seem to be helping as well. The

point

> >is, it is moving more neurotoxins through the system and also binding them

up.

> > >

> > > I've read that for cancer patients sometimes they do three C.E.s a day, so

> >I'm not afraid of it and do it twice on herx days with huge benefit.

> > >

> > > I also use Progena's Pro-Trauma for pain relief.

> > >

> > > Sherry

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

OK thank you very much ,

Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 12:35:12 PMSubject: Re: I'm so tired of this pain!

Take those by mouth since they need to be in place before you do the CE.> > >> > > I agree with Lena that C.E. are the mainstay of detox and its the first line > >of defense for me for lyme pain; nothing has come close to working as well as > >this for me. I buy organic green coffee from S.A. 's online, and they also > >have inexpensive enema bags that I like.> > > > > > I'm now enhancing the effect of the C.E. by: taking 2 capsules of charcoal > >and for a stronger herx a laxative (big dose of Vit C)in addition to the > >charcoal--both at the start of the C.E., and then 2 more capsules of charcoal at > >the 15 minute point during the C.E. I'm also taking cholestyramine at that point > >on a heavy herx day and plan to check with my LLMD about the best timing for > >that.

Sometimes I take Nanoteck Chitosan at the beginning of the C.E. and plan > >to check with my LLMD about how to time that one too.> > > > > > I noticed much more effectiveness when I added the charcoal (you can use any > >binder you tolerate), and another amount of effectiveness when I added the > >laxative. The cholestyramine and chitosan seem to be helping as well. The point > >is, it is moving more neurotoxins through the system and also binding them up.> > > > > > I've read that for cancer patients sometimes they do three C.E.s a day, so > >I'm not afraid of it and do it twice on herx days with huge benefit.> > > > > > I also use Progena's Pro-Trauma for pain relief.> > > > > > Sherry> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

GSH=glutathione

Sherry

> >

> > Thank you for your ideas .

> >  Sherry

> > do you use the cholesteramine chitosan  or charcoal in the aeneam or by

mouth

>

> > please?

> > Marie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> Yes it should no

>

[Guest guest]

Super thank you very much Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 1:26:48 AMSubject: Re: I'm so tired of this pain!

GSH=glutathioneSherry> >> > Thank you for your ideas .> >  Sherry > > do you use the cholesteramine chitosan  or charcoal in the aeneam or by mouth > > > please?> > Marie> > > > > > > > > Yes it should

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