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Carol wrote:

I have stopped my pain meds so that when the doctors decide to let

me have the gastric by pass, I won't have to wait for three months.

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Carol,

Why would you have to wait three months before surgery?

I had gastric bypass surgery six years ago. This was before I started

taking pain meds. Let me know if you need any advise or information

about the surgery.

Georgia

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---, " smaller_georgia " wrote:

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> Does anyone else taking Oxycontin have trouble falling/staying

asleep

> even with Ambien?

Hi Georgia:

Different opiates affect people differently. For example, I have

this same problem if I take hydrocodone (Vicodin) within several

hours of going to bed - it keeps me wide awake for hours. But I

don't have this problem with Oxycontin.

You're not unusual. If at all possible, maybe try moving your

opiate schedule so you take that last pill of the day a few hours

earlier. I don't know if it would help, since this is a time-

released drug, but it is worth trying.

Also, if this doesn't ease up after a couple of months on the

Oxycontin, then ask your doctor to switch you to a different

opiate. It's possible that another drug wouldn't affect you this

way.

Good luck.

Cheryl in AZ

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Thanks for helping us help you.

I had to take a combo of meds to sleep (still do) while on Oxy. I take

Ambien (allowed up to 2 per night but never take more than 1), and

temazapam, 45 mg (can take 60 but don't).

I'm on MS Contin now, and it

seems like the Ambien gets me to sleep while the temazapam keeps me

asleep. Any of the " pams " should do the same thing, diazapam (valium)

Xanax (whatever pam that it) Clonazapam, etc.

Works for me right now,

but it took a while to get it right. Ambien CR worked just like Ambien,

and Lunesta didn't do anything. Rozerem (a new one?) did nothing for me

either, even after weaning me off Ambien and taking no sleep meds for a

month.

In the past had tried several other older sleep meds that just

left me hung over in the morning. So...back on Ambien an temazapam and

it greatly helps.

Jami in OR

Carol wrote:

> RE:::Does anyone else taking Oxycontin have trouble falling/staying

> asleep

> even with Ambien?

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RE::

Why would you have to wait three months before surgery?

The surgeon says that in order for the pain meds to work after the

surgery I have to come off my pain meds. He said something about the pain

reseptors (sp?) being over loaded if I stay on the pain meds.

I have been off them 3 months, 17 days. and the surgeon told me that all I had

left was to go to the psyh. and nutrionist (sp?) then he would file with

insurance. I did that and waited for 3 months then called back and ask if

insurance had ok the surgery... come to find out the fart had not filed the

insurance he told me I had to loose 20+ lbs before hand.

So I'm trying to go to hickory NC to have it done. they don't have a

weight limit, but my PCP will not send me there. She says that she " does not

know this doctor so NO " Well I have a appt. with a new PCP and the first thing

I'm going to find out is will he send me to dr. Cook. If not, I'm on to a new

doctor. or have to wait till I see my female doctor Dr. A..

I did not know this but, a womens gynocologist can referrer you to any

doctor. The insurance companys consider them the same as a PCP.

So one way or the other I want to go to hickory for my surgery.

Carol

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HI I haave no idea wher your surgeuon is coming

from . One I had two surgries domne while taking MS

Cointin

they simply gave me a larger dose of my Rmergency med

Dilaudid that seemd to work tere is not a cieling on

opiats . that is a urban lagend myth of monumental

proprotions .

If you are used to it all they need do is raise the

doesand it is givnen befor surgey alng with a

increaseddoes of fenatnyl comonly used in surgery .

I would loookk for a differnt opiion if possible .

Something deosn not sound right

Best to all Rick

--- Carol wrote:

> RE::

> Why would you have to wait three months before

> surgery?

>

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> Does anyone else taking Oxycontin have trouble falling/staying asleep

> even with Ambien?

I too had problems falling asleep with Percocet. There are two ways I

found that worked with me although each had its downfalls.My doctor

prescribed a muscle relaxer Tizzinadine helped me immensely in getting

some sleep. The problem with that paticular medication mixed with the

Percocet for me was that I sometimes experienced hallucinations and loss

of control with my legs while standing. I finally placed them by the bed

and took them only after I knew I would be staying in bed except for

bathroom trips. I found these paticularly helpful when taking steroids

and experiencing the no sleep and high emotion roller coaster ride

sterooids can cause.

The other way I was able to sleep while on Percocet was crazy but it

worked. I had to take Alprazolam, Benadryl, Flexeril, Ampitryptaline

(spelling),, and Percocet. I'm not saying this gave me restful sleep,

but it certainly beat not sleeping at all. I can no longer afford all

the meds so I don't get much sleep, but maybe this will help.

Still a newbie~Charlotte

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Rick

I went to see a new pcp and he was great. He is going to send me to a doctor in

Charlotte that does the surgery and does not have weight limit.

Plus he gave me klonopin for my restless legs and something for my incontinence.

This is the first day I have not had to shower and change clothes a couple of

times... Woo Hoo!!

All I have to do now is wait on the blood work to get back and if all looks ok,

I got my new surgeon.

Carol

Rick wrote:

I would look for a differnt opinion if possible. Something does not sound right.

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I just take the occasional 10mg Oxycontin at night (since I'm

nursing, and the little one sleeps through the night). Ambien knocks

me out right quick, but without fail, I get up between 2 and 4 am,

wide awake, but then get real tired at 5-6am. Unfortunately,

narcotics keep some people up and give some of us a touch of ADD.

Which is fine for me for a bit, since I get the banking and cleaning

done, but then I can't sleep! Maybe try some melatonin?

Cheers,

Sara

>Does anyone else taking Oxycontin have trouble falling/staying asleep

>even with Ambien?

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Hi Carol That is Great!

I have never heard of that. Some places do have

weight concerens but you would have to be well

extreamly obese as in the 600 lb area.

Klonopin is alos good for most any nerve condtion. It

IS a Benzodaizepine but is much more potent than

valuim.

It is used for Restless leg syndrome

and It also has mild ant depreasnt activities as does

Xanax. It is not generally known or has not been

made well known .

Good luck with your surgerey

Rick

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Thanks for the input on this issue. I moved up the Oxycontin to around

6:00 instead of 9:00 and this seems to be helping some. I'm going to

talk to my doctor next month and see what can be done to help me get

some quality sleep.

Thanks again,

Georgia

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Hello,

I take Ambien also. I have to make sure to take my pain meds and muscle relaxer

by 7:00 at the latest and my Ambien and Clonazapam at 9:15 in order to fall

asleep. Hubby and I lay on couch until about 10:15, then I stagger off to the

bedroom. If I take the pain meds any later--the Ambien doesn't seem to work very

well. Hope this helps.

Tonya in SC

Georgia wrote:

Does anyone else taking Oxycontin have trouble falling/staying asleep

even with Ambien?

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