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Carol,

Instead of thinking about comfort or professionalism, think about marketing.

What would a corporation do? Your image is part of what you're selling.

Look at Disney. The clothes match the image or the theme the customer is

expecting. What is your facilities " theme " and who are your customers (don't

forget those who refer as customers).

For instance, if your facility caters to young, athletic outpatients, then

the look could be shorts and golf shirts with the logo. But if you serve

older customers at say a religious hospital then shorts may very well offend

them. Would a patient in a critical unit think a therapist in shorts is

taking their situation seriously enough?

In my opinion, how we dress is more about what sells than history.

Just my thoughts.

Lundy,MS PT PCS

Ponte Vedra Florida

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In a message dated 6/15/99 11:53:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

djette@... writes:

> Three years ago my husband and I were in a serious auto accident in

> Hawaii. My husband spent 4 weeks as an inpatient. The staff often

> dressed casually...aloha attire. We never thought of them as anything

> but professional. They were some of the most caring, open and friendly

> health care professionals that I have ever met. The care was

> excellent. Being a New Englander, I realized that we are terribly

> " buttoned-down " both in dress and demeanor. The dress matters little,

> the science and caring count.

> --

> Diane U. Jette

> Graduate Program in Physical Therapy

> Graduate School for Health Studies

> COllege

> 300 The Fenway

> Boston, MA 02115-5898

> phone fax

>

Well said! Lets focus on what REALLY matters.......

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My 2 cents on the issue: a uniform of khaki or navy pants with logo shirts is

fine. does your organization have corporate colors? those colors may be

choices for the shirts so that there may be a white shirt with the corporate

logo and a colored shirt. As for shorts in a hospital setting: Not appropriate

however Culotte skirts for women which are at least knee length may work. I

have worn them myself when in a pediatrs facility. The only place shorts may

appropriate in a facility with AC is a pediatric outpatient or early

intervention facility and then in a uniform manner. As far as home health, the

comments from the gentleman from Ohio made sense.

And as for scrubs: they can be professional. All scrubs are not the OR type.

We wear the kind that look like sport pants with polo shirts or hospital

t-shirts and lab coats. Pick a color scheme for scrubs and one or two patterns

for lab coats that every one can where and It will identify your department.

What we do requires ease of movement and comfort, as well as durability and

safety. These can be met in a variety of ways as long as there is consistency.

The not alloweds are jeans, tank tops , t-shirts that are offensive or dobvious

advertising for commercial products or groups other than the company. Shoes are

closed toe, leather or mostly white tennis shoes ( can't say all white these

days immpossible to find) or other solid color full shoe in plain colors. I

actually prefer no clogs as I can not see how they can be safe when transfering

patients etc.

Pat

Pat Corrigan Jobes, PT

Director of Therapy

Methodist Healthcare-North Hospital

3960 New Covington Pike

Memphis, Tn 38128

Phone: (901)384-5320

Fax: (901)384-5099

E-Mail: jobesm@...

>>> " Carol Rehder " 06/14/99 05:02PM >>>

Staff are asking about going to khaki or navy slacks and sport shirt tops with

medical center logo. One of our therapists asked about wearing khaki / navy

shorts with shirts in the warmer months. She asked me to pose the question to

our ptmanager group to find out how many hospitals out there have allowed this

change in dress code. (We are a 500 bed acute care hospital, no outpt. services

in our cost center. Have large Rehab, Skilled, and Ortho units. Thanks ahead

of time for your thoughts and comments.

>>> 06/14 1:20 PM >>>

What setting do you work in? What type of population?

Sherman,MA,PT,OCS

Coconut Creek, FL

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Thank you everyone for your quick response! I told staff I would probably have

5 responses by this morning. (I had 10!) I will be sharing your information

with them at our noon hour department meeting...... Thanks again!!!

>>> 06/15 8:56 AM >>>

Carol,

Instead of thinking about comfort or professionalism, think about marketing.

What would a corporation do? Your image is part of what you're selling.

Look at Disney. The clothes match the image or the theme the customer is

expecting. What is your facilities " theme " and who are your customers (don't

forget those who refer as customers).

For instance, if your facility caters to young, athletic outpatients, then

the look could be shorts and golf shirts with the logo. But if you serve

older customers at say a religious hospital then shorts may very well offend

them. Would a patient in a critical unit think a therapist in shorts is

taking their situation seriously enough?

In my opinion, how we dress is more about what sells than history.

Just my thoughts.

Lundy,MS PT PCS

Ponte Vedra Florida

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Madeleine Sawyer wrote:

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> Shorts are unacceptable in this facility according to hospital and dept

policy. It was felt that shorts do not convey a professional image.

> Madeleine Sawyer

> Pitt County Memorial Hosp

> Greenville , NC

>

> >>> " Carol Rehder " 06/14 6:02 PM >>>

> Staff are asking about going to khaki or navy slacks and sport shirt tops with

medical center logo. One of our therapists asked about wearing khaki / navy

shorts with shirts in the warmer months. She asked me to pose the question to

our ptmanager group to find out how many hospitals out there have allowed this

change in dress code. (We are a 500 bed acute care hospital, no outpt. services

in our cost center. Have large Rehab, Skilled, and Ortho units. Thanks ahead

of time for your thoughts

>

> >>> 06/14 1:20 PM >>>

> What setting do you work in? What type of population?

>

> Sherman,MA,PT,OCS

> Coconut Creek, FL

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Three years ago my husband and I were in a serious auto accident in

Hawaii. My husband spent 4 weeks as an inpatient. The staff often

dressed casually...aloha attire. We never thought of them as anything

but professional. They were some of the most caring, open and friendly

health care professionals that I have ever met. The care was

excellent. Being a New Englander, I realized that we are terribly

" buttoned-down " both in dress and demeanor. The dress matters little,

the science and caring count.

--

Diane U. Jette

Graduate Program in Physical Therapy

Graduate School for Health Studies

COllege

300 The Fenway

Boston, MA 02115-5898

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I'm old enough to remember culottes, skirts, and nurses with caps, so

almost anything's better than that! Still, I'd vote for scrubs rather than

shorts. Being an acute care, another important factor to be considered is

infection control. Scrubs allow for another barrier between contamination

or scratches of the skin of the therapists; shorts leave the skin exposed.

Also, in the event of major contamination or spills, you could probably get

'a loaner' set from your OR. Scrubs also can usually be

sanitized/disinfected more thoroughly than dressy style shorts, and if the

therapist buy their own, still can count as a uniform for tax purposes.

Reisa Fedorchuck, MS PT, Director

Physical Therapist Assistant Program

Housatonic Community Technical College

900 Lafayette Blvd.

Bridgeport, CT 06604

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Perhaps we are old fashioned but my wife and partner [also a PT] and I still

require our staff to dress as the professionals they are. White coats on the

females and ties on the males. Slacks and comfortable dress shoes. We have

several dress down days during the year for special occasions [PT Week

clothes] and Halloween. We had provided a uniform allowance per month up

until last year so we felt it appropriate to " suggest " dress to reflect our

professional status. As an outpatient facility [3] we felt our atmosphere

should at least equal that of the referring physicians.

My .02.

Pete

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I agree with the comments made in the preceding message. At our office,

(home care), the therapists are allowed to wear shorts as long as they are no

more than 2 inches above the knee. I have sent a few home in the past, but

generally we don't have a problem. Incidentally, we have 2 employees who

have MS and can't get " overheated. " They were allowed to wear shorts. That

lead to the rest of the employees asking to do so (using examples similar to

the ones in the messages before). We too, are in a HOT and humid environment

and see many patient who have no AC. We have had this policy for 5 years and

have had only one complaint.

Greg Hartley, MSPT, GCS

Director of Clinical Services

Rehab Concepts

Birmingham, AL

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