Re: OT:Sherry here's my values

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thanks Sherry. what's the url for rt3 forum?

Im really tired, but Im also on ativan...trying to taper as I think it is a problem. But have always wondered if thyroid is underlying my nerve, depression energy issues. We do test, then say nothing about it???

Tom

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 11:27:13 AMSubject: Re: OT:Sherry here's my values

Hi, Tom. Yes, the units for both RT3 and FT3 are the same. I *think* your ratio is 10.9, but running it by the RT3 group would be smart. On that group and their site they discuss all the various causes for RT3. Yes it typically is temporary to cope with things like starvation, but apparently for some people, it becomes chronic.Very few doctors get this. One that does and has some excellent information on his website is Holtorf. Thyroid treatment is pretty appalling actually--evidenced by the numbers of people forced to self treat. Treatment has become dictated by TSH labs instead of the patient.There's quite a learning curve to comprehend all the stuff about thyroid but it has been one piece of the puzzle for me. The one caution I have about the forums for lyme patients is to be careful about jumping into adrenal treatment using hydrocortisone.I'm not expert on this stuff, just a patient that has recently been

through it.Sherry>> > > >  Sherry,> Here are my values: >  > TSH           .8        .5-5.0    uIU/ml>  > T3Reverse 339       90-350  pg/ml>  > T3Free      3.1        2.4-4.2  pg/ml>  > T4Free    Â

 1.6        .8-1.6    ng/dl>  > Make any sense? Thanks, Tom> > > > ________________________________> > To: Lyme_and_Rife > Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 10:06:08 PM> Subject: Re: OT: Low FT4 with High T3??? Anyone know what this > could mean?> >  > Hi,> > This is just my opinion but I would hesitate to start with Isocort. Especially > if you have not had saliva cortisol testing done. It isn't wise to make the > assumption that the adrenals are low, start treating and further mess things up. > > > One thing that

you could try that would be beneficial for both adrenal and lyme > is Vitamin C to bowel tolerance.> > Secondly, you could start tracking your temp averages using the type of graph > you will see on Dr. Rind's website. Basically you take the temp three times a > day 3 hours apart and average. If you are really too high on T3 your temps will > be too high.> > T4 a little low and T3 a little high sounds about like the goal for many of us > with hypothyroid LOL. I would be curious, when T3 is high do you get a fast, > pulse, higher blood pressure, anxiety or keyed up feelings or other hyperthyroid > symptoms? > > > If you have RT3 tests that were run at the same time at FT3 or T3 tests you > could check the ratio. If the doc just looked to see if RT3 was in range, he or > she missed the point of the test.> > I would agree to post on

one of the thyroid forums. I've learned a lot there but > would hesitate to give you advice.> > Sherry>

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The RT3_T3 forum is a yahoo group, you have to search for it in yahoo groups and

then send a request to join.

Your description fits. The issue is that blood levels don't necessarily reflect

tissue levels. It has to move across the cell walls into the cells to do any

good. When RT3 occupies the cell wall sites, it keeps active T3 from doing its

thing.

There are a number of things that need to be checked and optimized to help

thyroid work well. For example, iron levels need to be checked including

ferritin which is storage iron. Electrolytes, sex hormones and adrenal function

all need to be optimized. I think other nutrients are also important. I found

Vitamin C to bowel tolerance to be important.

Lyme depresses hormone function, including thyroid. Infection is also a cause

of RT3, so you can see how that fits a lyme patient.

Sherry

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> >

> >

> >

> >  Sherry,

> > Here are my values:

> >  

> > TSH          

 .8         .5-5.0     uIU/ml

> >  

> > T3Reverse  339        90-350   pg/ml

> >  

> > T3Free       3.1        

2.4-4.2   pg/ml

> >  

> > T4Free       1.6        

..8-1.6     ng/dl

> >  

> > Make any sense? Thanks, Tom

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: scdlymie <scdlymie@>

> > To: Lyme_and_Rife

> > Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 10:06:08 PM

> > Subject: Re: OT: Low FT4 with High T3??? Anyone know what

this

>

> > could mean?

> >

> >  

> > Hi,

> >

> > This is just my opinion but I would hesitate to start with Isocort.

Especially

>

> > if you have not had saliva cortisol testing done. It isn't wise to make the

> > assumption that the adrenals are low, start treating and further mess things

> >up.

> >

> >

> >

> > One thing that you could try that would be beneficial for both adrenal and

lyme

> >

> > is Vitamin C to bowel tolerance.

> >

> > Secondly, you could start tracking your temp averages using the type of

graph

> > you will see on Dr. Rind's website. Basically you take the temp three times

a

> > day 3 hours apart and average. If you are really too high on T3 your temps

will

> >

> > be too high.

> >

> > T4 a little low and T3 a little high sounds about like the goal for many of

us

>

> > with hypothyroid LOL. I would be curious, when T3 is high do you get a fast,

> > pulse, higher blood pressure, anxiety or keyed up feelings or other

> >hyperthyroid

> >

> > symptoms?

> >

> >

> > If you have RT3 tests that were run at the same time at FT3 or T3 tests you

> > could check the ratio. If the doc just looked to see if RT3 was in range, he

or

> >

> > she missed the point of the test.

> >

> > I would agree to post on one of the thyroid forums. I've learned a lot there

> >but

> >

> > would hesitate to give you advice.

> >

> > Sherry

> >

>