Re: USANA and Juice+

[Guest guest]

Well stated -- thank you. When someone has an economic interest in what they

are recommending, they are no longer impartial. I believe that this applies to

a great % of medical field too!

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> Hello, I don't want to seem confrontational so please forgive the bluntness of

this message but as the website states we are not to be marketing

pharmeceuticals. It is fine to mention what you are taking, how it is helping

you personally and where we can get the information but please refrain from

marketing or defending products. Supplements and vitamins tend(I do not want to

get in to a debate about how your company does it's studies) to have limited

unbiased studies. I think it is also important to note that the studies

involving children with these products is even less of a concrete science. I

believe the latest post in regards to Juice Plus and USANA have crossed the

line. Please note the pasted paragragh below written on the home page.

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> " Please, no advertising for pharmacy websites or pharmacy services, or

websites related to general pharmaceuticals. All Files and Links and Messages

perceived as advertising or promoting will be deleted. Listmates can, however,

mention books/products/supplements that they use by name/brand name, and ask for

feedback about pharmaceutical prescriptions by name. That type of sharing is not

considered advertising or promoting. Sharing of personal experiences is what

helps us all learn more about solving the puzzle of our own/our child's

constipation issues. "

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Yang, I totally understand what you are saying. Right now I'm thinking Fruit-eze is wonderful and gushing about it to friends and family. If you know something works and is natural, you want to share it. I appreciate your input.

I have a question for everybody. A previous post asking about giving prunes every day led me to do a search about it on the net. While prunes are praised for their laxative and nutritious affects, more than one site does say not to overdo them and/ or take them daily. Reasons include: they have a stimulant effect and can cause problems going after you stop eating them, they can damage the colon, and they can cause increased oxalates. We're giving a good bit of fruit-eze every day to my grandson (2-3 tbs. a day). Even with that, he has had no loose BMs and goes well once a day. The fruiteze site says its ok to take daily and for long periods. Does anyone have knowledge about this?

To: miralax Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 10:34:42 PMSubject: USANA and Juice+I agree this is not a site to advertise for products, I normally would not have mentioned USANA, in fact, my son is doing so well, I don't even regularly check the e-mails anymore. I realize that people might feel like I was promoting the product because I wanted to benefit financially, but that is not the intend. I decided to represent the company because I have seen how it could help people and I wanted to make it available to others since most people have no one to educate them about nutrition nor do they have much time or reason to devote themselves in this area, unless they have a

need. Having been through so much with my son and made all the scarifies, and now seeing all the e-mails and frustrations from the people on this network, I thought perhaps other might benefit from knowing about some healthy and safe options out there, it just might help them and make their lives better, rather than pulling their hair out every day trying to figure outwhat else to do, like I was. I felt like my whole live was being controlled by constipation, a good day for me was when he had a big poop.I trust everyone is intelligent enough to make their own decisions. It is like miralax, no one said you must take it, it is your choice. I am glad it is available because for some families it is “saving†their lives like it did for us. You do your own research and decided what is the best for you. Just because something worked for you, it does not mean it will work for others, or vice versa. I don't

think it is a good idea for parents to let the kids suffer from constipation because they fear miralax, nor do I think it is a good idea to keep taking laxative all the time regardless which one. Nothing is a guarantee, but what if there is something that is safe and healthy with no harmful side effects, and could possibly help solve the problem or lessen it, wouldn't you want to at least know about it? In fact, I felt bad not to share what had worked for us and why I thought this product was different sinc I spent a lot of time researching it.Anyway, I was just trying to offer some suggestions from a parent who has won the battle against laxative that nearly destroyed our lives. If I offended anyone, I apologize. Best regards,Yang ------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Yang, I'm not the moderator but I think what you presented didn't cross any boundaries. If it did, would have let you know. Thank you for sharing. That's what we're here for, to offer suggestions.

Subject: USANA and Juice+To: miralax Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 9:34 PM

I agree this is not a site to advertise for products, I normally would not have mentioned USANA, in fact, my son is doing so well, I don't even regularly check the e-mails anymore. I realize that people might feel like I was promoting the product because I wanted to benefit financially, but that is not the intend. I decided to represent the company because I have seen how it could help people and I wanted to make it available to others since most people have no one to educate them about nutrition nor do they have much time or reason to devote themselves in this area, unless they have a need. Having been through so much with my son and made all the scarifies, and now seeing all the e-mails and frustrations from the people on this network, I thought perhaps other might benefit from knowing about some healthy and safe options out there, it just might help them and make their lives better, rather than pulling their hair out every day trying to figure

outwhat else to do, like I was. I felt like my whole live was being controlled by constipation, a good day for me was when he had a big poop.I trust everyone is intelligent enough to make their own decisions. It is like miralax, no one said you must take it, it is your choice. I am glad it is available because for some families it is “saving†their lives like it did for us. You do your own research and decided what is the best for you. Just because something worked for you, it does not mean it will work for others, or vice versa. I don't think it is a good idea for parents to let the kids suffer from constipation because they fear miralax, nor do I think it is a good idea to keep taking laxative all the time regardless which one. Nothing is a guarantee, but what if there is something that is safe and healthy with no harmful side effects, and could possibly help solve the problem or lessen it, wouldn't you want to at least know about it?

In fact, I felt bad not to share what had worked for us and why I thought this product was different sinc I spent a lot of time researching it.Anyway, I was just trying to offer some suggestions from a parent who has won the battle against laxative that nearly destroyed our lives. If I offended anyone, I apologize. Best regards,Yang

[Guest guest]

, it would be most helpful if you posted the link you found

Subject: Re: USANA and Juice+To: miralax Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 5:09 AM

Yang, I totally understand what you are saying. Right now I'm thinking Fruit-eze is wonderful and gushing about it to friends and family. If you know something works and is natural, you want to share it. I appreciate your input.

I have a question for everybody. A previous post asking about giving prunes every day led me to do a search about it on the net. While prunes are praised for their laxative and nutritious affects, more than one site does say not to overdo them and/ or take them daily. Reasons include: they have a stimulant effect and can cause problems going after you stop eating them, they can damage the colon, and they can cause increased oxalates. We're giving a good bit of fruit-eze every day to my grandson (2-3 tbs. a day). Even with that, he has had no loose BMs and goes well once a day. The fruiteze site says its ok to take daily and for long periods. Does anyone have knowledge about this?

From: Yang Lin <lin67226yahoo (DOT) com>To: miralax@yahoogroups .comSent: Thu, January 14, 2010 10:34:42 PMSubject: USANA and Juice+I agree this is not a site to advertise for products, I normally would not have mentioned USANA, in fact, my son is doing so well, I don't even regularly check the e-mails anymore. I realize that people might feel like I was promoting the product because I wanted to benefit financially, but that is not the intend. I decided to represent the company because I have seen how it could help people and I wanted to make it available to others since most people have no one to educate them about nutrition nor do they have much time or reason to devote themselves in this area, unless they have a

need. Having been through so much with my son and made all the scarifies, and now seeing all the e-mails and frustrations from the people on this network, I thought perhaps other might benefit from knowing about some healthy and safe options out there, it just might help them and make their lives better, rather than pulling their hair out every day trying to figure outwhat else to do, like I was. I felt like my whole live was being controlled by constipation, a good day for me was when he had a big poop.I trust everyone is intelligent enough to make their own decisions. It is like miralax, no one said you must take it, it is your choice. I am glad it is available because for some families it is “saving†their lives like it did for us. You do your own research and decided what is the best for you. Just because something worked for you, it does not mean it will work for others, or vice versa. I don't

think it is a good idea for parents to let the kids suffer from constipation because they fear miralax, nor do I think it is a good idea to keep taking laxative all the time regardless which one. Nothing is a guarantee, but what if there is something that is safe and healthy with no harmful side effects, and could possibly help solve the problem or lessen it, wouldn't you want to at least know about it? In fact, I felt bad not to share what had worked for us and why I thought this product was different sinc I spent a lot of time researching it.Anyway, I was just trying to offer some suggestions from a parent who has won the battle against laxative that nearly destroyed our lives. If I offended anyone, I apologize. Best regards,Yang ------------ --------- --------- ------

[Guest guest]

It is ok to eat prunes regularly for most(much safer than synthetics). As far

as being a stimulant it is so very mild. Apples also are mild stimulant etc. The

fruiteze has prunes in it. Prunes are so healthy and also feed the good

bacteria's. This is needed for gi healing. I could see if someone was eating

prunes all day every day then that may be a problem but a couple a day even more

is good. The good movements and health benefits from prunes out weights this

issue I believe. If someone has issues with the oxalates than this would be one

they may avoid(someone with oxalate knowledge please inform me here). Oxalates

are naturally occurring in humans.

This is quoted from medicineNet.com.... " Prunes and prune juice have been used

for many years to treat mild constipation. There is no evidence that the mild

stimulant effects of prunes or prune juice damage the colon "

Jennie<><

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> Yang, I totally understand what you are saying.  Right now I'm thinking

Fruit-eze is wonderful and gushing about it to friends and family.  If you know

something works and is natural, you want to share it.  I appreciate your input.

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> I have a question for everybody.  A previous post asking about giving prunes

every day led me to do a search about it on the net.  While prunes are praised

for their laxative and nutritious affects, more than one site does say not to

overdo them and/ or take them daily.  Reasons include:  they have a stimulant

effect and can cause problems going after you stop eating them, they can damage

the colon, and they can cause increased oxalates.  We're giving a good bit of

fruit-eze every day to my grandson (2-3 tbs. a day).  Even with that, he has

had no loose BMs and goes well once a day.  The fruiteze site says its ok to

take daily and for long periods.  Does anyone have knowledge about this?

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> To: miralax

> Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 10:34:42 PM

> Subject: USANA and Juice+

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> I agree this is not a site to advertise for products, I normally would not

have mentioned USANA, in fact, my son is doing so well, I don't even regularly

check the e-mails anymore.  I realize that people might feel like I was

promoting the product because I wanted to benefit financially, but that is not

the intend.  I decided to represent the company because I have seen how it

could help people and I wanted to make it available to others since most people

have no one to educate them about nutrition nor do they have much time or reason

to devote themselves in this area, unless they have a need.  Having been

through so much with my son and made all the scarifies, and now seeing all the

e-mails and frustrations from the people on this network, I thought perhaps

other might benefit from knowing about some healthy and safe options out there,

it just might help them and make their lives better, rather than pulling their

hair out every day trying to figure

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> what else to do, like I was.  I felt like my whole live was being controlled

by constipation, a good day for me was when he had a big poop.

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> I trust everyone is intelligent enough to make their own decisions.  It is

like miralax, no one said you must take it, it is your choice. I am glad it is

available because for some families it is “saving†their lives like it did

for us.  You do your own research and decided what is the best for you.  Just

because something worked for you, it does not mean it will work for others, or

vice versa.  I don't think it is a good idea for parents to let the kids suffer

from constipation because they fear miralax, nor do I think it is a good idea to

keep taking laxative all the time regardless which one.  Nothing is a

guarantee, but what if there is something that is safe and healthy with no

harmful side effects, and could possibly help solve the problem or lessen it,

wouldn't you want to at least know about it?  In fact, I felt bad not to share

what had worked for us and why I thought this product was different sinc I spent

a lot of time researching it.

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> Anyway, I was just trying to offer some suggestions from a parent who has won

the battle against laxative that nearly destroyed our lives.  If I offended

anyone, I apologize. 

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> Best regards,

> Yang

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[Guest guest]

Here is one link and the part that concerned me There were a few others that I didn't save since they basically said the same thing. I know my grandson needs to be taking something. Even with all the fruiteze, his movements aren't frequent or loose. But I don't want to give him so much of it if it's not good to do so every day.

http://www.colon-cleanse-constipation.com/stewed-prunes.html

Concerns About Using Stewed Prunes as a Laxative

As with any stimulant, abusing prunes for their laxative effect can cause constipation whenever you’re not eating them. Stimulant laxatives can cause damage to the colon as well. Since stewed prunes work in much the same manner, eating too many could theoretically lead to the same problems. Therefore, you should not regularly use prunes to stimulate bowel movements.

This is not to say it’s unsafe to eat prunes. In fact, they provide a number of vitamins and can help lower cholesterol. Therefore, it’s a good idea to save them a place on your menu. Just avoid eating prunes in excess (just as you wouldn’t eat 50 eggs to win a bet) and you should be alright.

Prunes also contain oxalates, which occur naturally in plants and animals. If oxalates become too concentrated in body fluids, they can crystallize and cause health problems. Therefore, if you are suffering from an untreated gallbladder or kidney problem, avoid eating large amounts of stewed prunes because the oxalates interfere with normal calcium absorption.

To: miralax Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 8:36:47 AMSubject: Re: USANA and Juice+

, it would be most helpful if you posted the link you found

Subject: Re: USANA and Juice+To: miralax Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 5:09 AM

Yang, I totally understand what you are saying. Right now I'm thinking Fruit-eze is wonderful and gushing about it to friends and family. If you know something works and is natural, you want to share it. I appreciate your input.

I have a question for everybody. A previous post asking about giving prunes every day led me to do a search about it on the net. While prunes are praised for their laxative and nutritious affects, more than one site does say not to overdo them and/ or take them daily. Reasons include: they have a stimulant effect and can cause problems going after you stop eating them, they can damage the colon, and they can cause increased oxalates. We're giving a good bit of fruit-eze every day to my grandson (2-3 tbs. a day). Even with that, he has had no loose BMs and goes well once a day. The fruiteze site says its ok to take daily and for long periods. Does anyone have knowledge about this?

From: Yang Lin <lin67226yahoo (DOT) com>To: miralax@yahoogroups .comSent: Thu, January 14, 2010 10:34:42 PMSubject: USANA and Juice+I agree this is not a site to advertise for products, I normally would not have mentioned USANA, in fact, my son is doing so well, I don't even regularly check the e-mails anymore. I realize that people might feel like I was promoting the product because I wanted to benefit financially, but that is not the intend. I decided to represent the company because I have seen how it could help people and I wanted to make it available to others since most people have no one to educate them about nutrition nor do they have much time or reason to devote themselves in this area, unless they have a

need. Having been through so much with my son and made all the scarifies, and now seeing all the e-mails and frustrations from the people on this network, I thought perhaps other might benefit from knowing about some healthy and safe options out there, it just might help them and make their lives better, rather than pulling their hair out every day trying to figure outwhat else to do, like I was. I felt like my whole live was being controlled by constipation, a good day for me was when he had a big poop.I trust everyone is intelligent enough to make their own decisions. It is like miralax, no one said you must take it, it is your choice. I am glad it is available because for some families it is “saving†their lives like it did for us. You do your own research and decided what is the best for you. Just because something worked for you, it does not mean it will work for others, or vice versa. I don't

think it is a good idea for parents to let the kids suffer from constipation because they fear miralax, nor do I think it is a good idea to keep taking laxative all the time regardless which one. Nothing is a guarantee, but what if there is something that is safe and healthy with no harmful side effects, and could possibly help solve the problem or lessen it, wouldn't you want to at least know about it? In fact, I felt bad not to share what had worked for us and why I thought this product was different sinc I spent a lot of time researching it.Anyway, I was just trying to offer some suggestions from a parent who has won the battle against laxative that nearly destroyed our lives. If I offended anyone, I apologize. Best regards,Yang ------------ --------- --------- ------

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We dont use the same things daily! We alternate. Have you tried vitamin C? You are a good loving grandma and it is wonderful you always do your research. Do you mind me asking if he drinks tap water? Tap/chlorine is very drying to the intestines and kills the good needed bacteria's. We noticed a difference once our son was off this, especially with his reflux. We try to keep stocked on the natural spring waters(how truely natural, I dont know but did notice differences). Jennie<><

From: Barnett <dkbar711yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: USANA and Juice+To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Friday, January 15, 2010, 5:09 AM

Yang, I totally understand what you are saying. Right now I'm thinking Fruit-eze is wonderful and gushing about it to friends and family. If you know something works and is natural, you want to share it.. I appreciate your input.

I have a question for everybody. A previous post asking about giving prunes every day led me to do a search about it on the net. While prunes are praised for their laxative and nutritious affects, more than one site does say not to overdo them and/ or take them daily. Reasons include: they have a stimulant effect and can cause problems going after you stop eating them, they can damage the colon, and they can cause increased oxalates. We're giving a good bit of fruit-eze every day to my grandson (2-3 tbs. a day). Even with that, he has had no loose BMs and goes well once a day. The fruiteze site says its ok to take daily and for long periods. Does anyone have knowledge about this?

From: Yang Lin <lin67226yahoo (DOT) com>To: miralax@yahoogroups .comSent: Thu, January 14, 2010 10:34:42 PMSubject: USANA and Juice+I agree this is not a site to advertise for products, I normally would not have mentioned USANA, in fact, my son is doing so well, I don't even regularly check the e-mails anymore. I realize that people might feel like I was promoting the product because I wanted to benefit financially, but that is not the intend. I decided to represent the company because I have seen how it could help people and I wanted to make it available to others since most people have no one to educate them about nutrition nor do they have much time or reason to devote themselves in this area, unless they have a

need. Having been through so much with my son and made all the scarifies, and now seeing all the e-mails and frustrations from the people on this network, I thought perhaps other might benefit from knowing about some healthy and safe options out there, it just might help them and make their lives better, rather than pulling their hair out every day trying to figure outwhat else to do, like I was. I felt like my whole live was being controlled by constipation, a good day for me was when he had a big poop.I trust everyone is intelligent enough to make their own decisions. It is like miralax, no one said you must take it, it is your choice. I am glad it is available because for some families it is “saving†their lives like it did for us. You do your own research and decided what is the best for you. Just because something worked for you, it does not mean it will work for others, or vice versa. I don't

think it is a good idea for parents to let the kids suffer from constipation because they fear miralax, nor do I think it is a good idea to keep taking laxative all the time regardless which one. Nothing is a guarantee, but what if there is something that is safe and healthy with no harmful side effects, and could possibly help solve the problem or lessen it, wouldn't you want to at least know about it? In fact, I felt bad not to share what had worked for us and why I thought this product was different sinc I spent a lot of time researching it.Anyway, I was just trying to offer some suggestions from a parent who has won the battle against laxative that nearly destroyed our lives. If I offended anyone, I apologize. Best regards,Yang ------------ --------- --------- ------