Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Jeanie- I've never seen any article that shows evidence of PEG breaking down inside the human body. That said, I searched and searched (a couple years ago, haven't checked again recently) for any research lending proof to the idea that PEG does NOT break down in the body. All I was ever able to find was one short sentence in one medical research article that claimed PEG is not broken down in the human body BUT did NOT cite a reference or show any data to that effect. It was simply stated as if it were fact - but I am always skeptical of statements like this in research articles when they do NOT provide either primary data within the article to support the statement, or reference/citation to other research articles that support such a statement. I don't have time to relocate that article at the moment. I do think I tried to seek out the author of that article and I believe he had since retired from research but left himself quite a legacy - either a department and/or a building was named after him at the institution he had worked at. Which, as a scientist, makes me even more skeptical of his making such a statement without supporting evidence presented - in my experience, researchers who bring in a lot of money are often assumed to be the " best " and often get a lot of leniency when it comes to assumptions that they know what they are talking about. Everyone should be held to the same standards of proof in the research field, but sadly they are not. Anyway - I've posted links to all the abstracts/articles i've found over the years regarding PEG breakdown by bacteria in sewage sludge - and links to articles showing that some of these same strains can be found in the human GI tract. They should all be in the archives - and I recently posted a compilation of links to some of those messages in the archives in response to another inquiry here. No one has, that I know of, tried to perform the research to connect the two (the breakdown of PEG by bacteria in the lab and the fact that some of these strains can in habit the GI tract & to see if there is degradation in the GI tract). In fact, I asked one researcher about this and she expressed no interest in doing so - she was too busy completing medical training and practicing medicine to do more research. (She's an author on the article I linked to the other day on PEG recovery in urine after oral administration) > > Can you find me any information that shows that PEG degrades back into it's original state? I was told by Braintree Labs that PEG cannot be broken down in the body. According to the article my physician gave me, if you have c-diff or ischaemia, you will have complications. I'm sure you've read this article. Let me know if you didn't. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 , what do we do? I never found the articles on peg degenerating in sewer systems but remember it from years ago on here and I never book marked it. Do you have any links or articles about the bacteria you talked about breaking peg down? If they're in the archieves, could you point me in the right direction? You'd think out of the thousands of people that have come across here, someone would have known a scientist? Subject: Re: / peg breaking downTo: miralax Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 2:52 PM Jeanie-I've never seen any article that shows evidence of PEG breaking down inside the human body. That said, I searched and searched (a couple years ago, haven't checked again recently) for any research lending proof to the idea that PEG does NOT break down in the body. All I was ever able to find was one short sentence in one medical research article that claimed PEG is not broken down in the human body BUT did NOT cite a reference or show any data to that effect. It was simply stated as if it were fact - but I am always skeptical of statements like this in research articles when they do NOT provide either primary data within the article to support the statement, or reference/citation to other research articles that support such a statement.I don't have time to relocate that article at the moment. I do think I tried to seek out the author of that article and I believe he had since retired from research but left himself quite a legacy - either a department and/or a building was named after him at the institution he had worked at. Which, as a scientist, makes me even more skeptical of his making such a statement without supporting evidence presented - in my experience, researchers who bring in a lot of money are often assumed to be the "best" and often get a lot of leniency when it comes to assumptions that they know what they are talking about. Everyone should be held to the same standards of proof in the research field, but sadly they are not.Anyway - I've posted links to all the abstracts/articles i've found over the years regarding PEG breakdown by bacteria in sewage sludge - and links to articles showing that some of these same strains can be found in the human GI tract. They should all be in the archives - and I recently posted a compilation of links to some of those messages in the archives in response to another inquiry here. No one has, that I know of, tried to perform the research to connect the two (the breakdown of PEG by bacteria in the lab and the fact that some of these strains can in habit the GI tract & to see if there is degradation in the GI tract). In fact, I asked one researcher about this and she expressed no interest in doing so - she was too busy completing medical training and practicing medicine to do more research. (She's an author on the article I linked to the other day on PEG recovery in urine after oral administration)>> Can you find me any information that shows that PEG degrades back into it's original state? I was told by Braintree Labs that PEG cannot be broken down in the body. According to the article my physician gave me, if you have c-diff or ischaemia, you will have complications. I'm sure you've read this article. Let me know if you didn't.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Here's the post with links. I'm copying the pdf to the files section http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/miralax/message/4730 > >> > Can you find me any information that shows that PEG degrades back into it's original state? I was told by Braintree Labs that PEG cannot be broken down in the body. According to the article my physician gave me, if you have c-diff or ischaemia, you will have complications. I'm sure you've read this article. Let me know if you didn't.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Thanks LeeAnn! Subject: Re: / peg breaking downTo: miralax Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 2:18 AM Here's the post with links. I'm copying the pdf to the files section http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ miralax/message/ 4730 > >> > Can you find me any information that shows that PEG degrades back into it's original state? I was told by Braintree Labs that PEG cannot be broken down in the body. According to the article my physician gave me, if you have c-diff or ischaemia, you will have complications. I'm sure you've read this article. Let me know if you didn't.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 LeeAnn, could you please explain to me how you copy and paste a link like this? Subject: Re: / peg breaking downTo: miralax Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 2:18 AM Here's the post with links. I'm copying the pdf to the files section http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ miralax/message/ 4730 > >> > Can you find me any information that shows that PEG degrades back into it's original state? I was told by Braintree Labs that PEG cannot be broken down in the body. According to the article my physician gave me, if you have c-diff or ischaemia, you will have complications. I'm sure you've read this article. Let me know if you didn't.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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