Re: Paying for productive time

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Can I offer a distinction that has helped me in the past? The term

" productivity " makes clinicians feel bad. I invented a word that worked

with my staff. What we are really talking about it " charge-ability " . My

employees work very hard and are " productive " all day long. But not

" chargeable " all day long. As I have said to my folks, let's face it, were

are here to be both productive and " chargeable " . I would like to know about

creative ways that have been devised to compensate clinicians based on

" chargeability " ...

This distinction has helped frame the discussion with clinical staff,

helping them with their feelings, and focusing them on what we need to

accomplish.

Maureen Windmoeller, PT

MacNeal Health Network

Berwyn, IL

Paying for productive time

I have heard that some facilities are paying therapist based soley

on

productive time I was wondering how this worked.

If you have some info on this area please let me know

Thanks,

Craig

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In a message dated 5/27/99 9:00:51 AM Central Daylight Time,

mwindmoe@... writes:

<< Can I offer a distinction that has helped me in the past? The term

" productivity " makes clinicians feel bad. I invented a word that worked

with my staff. What we are really talking about it " charge-ability " . >>

Maureen;

If you are going to soften/refine the language, you might want to go one step

further. Charge-ability has no place in healthcare. Perhaps collect-ability

would be more appropriate.

Just my 2c

Jim Hall, CPA

Rehab Management Services, LLC

222 3rd Street SE, Suite 525

Cedar Rapids, IA 52401

319/365-6384

Here we grow again! Another client is slated to start on 7/1

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[Guest guest]

I like that even better! Thanks.

Re: Paying for productive time

In a message dated 5/27/99 9:00:51 AM Central Daylight Time,

mwindmoe@... writes:

<< Can I offer a distinction that has helped me in the past? The

term

" productivity " makes clinicians feel bad. I invented a word that

worked

with my staff. What we are really talking about it

" charge-ability " . >>

Maureen;

If you are going to soften/refine the language, you might want to go

one step

further. Charge-ability has no place in healthcare. Perhaps

collect-ability

would be more appropriate.

Just my 2c

Jim Hall, CPA

Rehab Management Services, LLC

222 3rd Street SE, Suite 525

Cedar Rapids, IA 52401

319/365-6384

Here we grow again! Another client is slated to start on 7/1

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[Guest guest]

My company began paying therapists based on billable patient care minutes in

March. There are a few exceptions, but basically their rate of pay is based on

the minutes of therapy they provide in a day. We only had 1 therapist (out of

75) quit because of the new payment methodology. Incidentally, if they are able

to see 2 or more patients in a group setting (following the 25% rule), they are

able to earn more money than they would have under the old way (because they are

paid for all patient care minutes). As a manager, it has made my life easier,

and most of the therapists feel like they have more control over their

earnings/schedule.

Meyer, PT

TeamRehab, St. Louis, MO

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> I have heard that some facilities are paying therapist based soley on

> productive time I was wondering how this worked.

> If you have some info on this area please let me know

>

> Thanks,

> Craig

>

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[Guest guest]

I was wondering if you could share one example how this works. If you wish

you can email me directly at CBUTTURFF@... Thanks.

Craig Butturff

St 's Rehab, Little Falls, MN

Re: Paying for productive time

My company began paying therapists based on billable patient care minutes in

March. There are a few exceptions, but basically their rate of pay is based

on the minutes of therapy they provide in a day. We only had 1 therapist

(out of 75) quit because of the new payment methodology. Incidentally, if

they are able to see 2 or more patients in a group setting (following the

25% rule), they are able to earn more money than they would have under the

old way (because they are paid for all patient care minutes). As a manager,

it has made my life easier, and most of the therapists feel like they have

more control over their earnings/schedule.

Meyer, PT

TeamRehab, St. Louis, MO

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rg> wrote:

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> I have heard that some facilities are paying therapist based soley on

> productive time I was wondering how this worked.

> If you have some info on this area please let me know

>

> Thanks,

> Craig

>

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