Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 why would you use an RN?? unless to give allergy shots, chemo etc? MAs would do fine as long as you are obsessive in training them. i know i cant afford one. grace > > what is the hr rate for a recent rn graduate and an experienced rn in an office setting > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 we have not had good luck with MAs. We don't necessarily want an RN, we actually want an LPN but all our aps have been RN. Subject: Re: RN PAY SCALETo: Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:05 AM why would you use an RN??unless to give allergy shots, chemo etc?MAs would do fine as long as you are obsessive in training them.i know i cant afford one.grace>> what is the hr rate for a recent rn graduate and an experienced rn in an office setting> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011  what you need is the right person. Not necessarily a degree/certificate. You can teach just about anything to anyone. What you need is loyalty, good personality, decent brain, motivation, and perhaps a few more attributes, almost nothing to do with specific skills but rather basic skills. Typing skill more important than any medical skill. It's easier to learn how to do a blood pressure than to learn typing and everything is typing now a days. You should be able to pick up on whether a person is workable within the first 30 seconds of the interview, just about without even talking. It's amazing how many fluzies will show up for an interview thinking they're the answer to the work force and they don't even realize boobs hanging out doesn't cut it, and variations of that. Re: RN PAY SCALETo: Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:05 AM why would you use an RN??unless to give allergy shots, chemo etc?MAs would do fine as long as you are obsessive in training them.i know i cant afford one.grace>> what is the hr rate for a recent rn graduate and an experienced rn in an office setting>=======Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found.(Email Guard: 7.0.0.26, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17960)http://www.pctools.com======= =======Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found.(Email Guard: 7.0.0.26, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17960)http://www.pctools.com======= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Definitely agree on this one!  Our current nurse, who is unfortunately leaving us at the end of the month for a Nursing Director position in a SNF, started with us 4.5 years ago.  She came with a 4 year degree and some basic nursing courses during college.  While with us, she went to school part time and got her LVN license, and in January of this year, she started taking an online BN course and will graduate from that program in about a year.  Her goal is to work in an acute care facility.  We are now in the process of training a new receptionist and MA.  In steve's  entire career (now just over 13 years since he got out of residency), he has had exactly 2 nurses.  Pretty good track record, I think!! Pratt   what you need is the right person.  Not necessarily a degree/certificate.   You can teach just about anything to anyone.   What you need is loyalty, good personality, decent brain, motivation, and perhaps a few more attributes, almost nothing to do with specific skills but rather basic skills.   Typing skill more important than any medical skill.   It's easier to learn how to do a blood pressure than to learn typing and everything is typing now a days.   You should be able to pick up on whether a person is workable within the first 30 seconds of the interview, just about without even talking.   It's amazing how many fluzies will show up for an interview thinking they're the answer to the work force and they don't even realize boobs hanging out doesn't cut it, and variations of that.       Re: RN PAY SCALETo: Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:05 AM  why would you use an RN??unless to give allergy shots, chemo etc?MAs would do fine as long as you are obsessive in training them.i know i cant afford one.grace>> what is the hr rate for a recent rn graduate and an experienced rn in an office setting>=======Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found.(Email Guard: 7.0.0.26, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17960)http://www.pctools.com======= =======Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found.(Email Guard: 7.0.0.26, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17960)http://www.pctools.com ======= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 We just hired a new MA. I decided on a new grad who hadn't learned any bad habits. Her pay is less but it is going to take a lot of training to bring her up to speed. I feel that training is a great investment because staff often stay with you for years. My LPN who retiring soon has been with me for 25 years and my other MA has been with me for 10 years. I think that it will take about 1 year for my new MA to be pretty well trained. That is why I hired her 1 year before my LPN retires. Larry Lindeman MDRoscoe Village Family Medicine2255 W. RoscoeChicago, Illinois 60618www.roscoevillagefamilymedicine.com Definitely agree on this one! Our current nurse, who is unfortunately leaving us at the end of the month for a Nursing Director position in a SNF, started with us 4.5 years ago. She came with a 4 year degree and some basic nursing courses during college. While with us, she went to school part time and got her LVN license, and in January of this year, she started taking an online BN course and will graduate from that program in about a year. Her goal is to work in an acute care facility. We are now in the process of training a new receptionist and MA. In steve's entire career (now just over 13 years since he got out of residency), he has had exactly 2 nurses. Pretty good track record, I think!! Pratt  what you need is the right person. Not necessarily a degree/certificate. You can teach just about anything to anyone. What you need is loyalty, good personality, decent brain, motivation, and perhaps a few more attributes, almost nothing to do with specific skills but rather basic skills. Typing skill more important than any medical skill. It's easier to learn how to do a blood pressure than to learn typing and everything is typing now a days. You should be able to pick up on whether a person is workable within the first 30 seconds of the interview, just about without even talking. It's amazing how many fluzies will show up for an interview thinking they're the answer to the work force and they don't even realize boobs hanging out doesn't cut it, and variations of that. Re: RN PAY SCALETo: Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:05 AM why would you use an RN??unless to give allergy shots, chemo etc?MAs would do fine as long as you are obsessive in training them.i know i cant afford one.grace>> what is the hr rate for a recent rn graduate and an experienced rn in an office setting>=======Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found.(Email Guard: 7.0.0.26, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17960)http://www.pctools.com======= =======Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found.(Email Guard: 7.0.0.26, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17960)http://www.pctools.com ======= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 You could never get an RN to work here (Southern California) for $22-24/hr. Would be lucky to get an LPN for that. SharonSharon McCoy MDRenaissance Family Medicine10 McClintock Court; Irvine, CA 92617 PH: (949)387-5504 Fax: (949)281-2197 Toll free phone/fax: www.SharonMD.com Here is a resource that may help you:http://www.registerednursern.com/registered-nurse-rn-salary-pay-wages-and-income-of-registered-nurses/ Pay scale will be more in a hospital setting than in an office setting. The region you are in matters too. Will you be giving any benefits? I don’t just mean medical coverage, but PTO, reimbursement for licensing or Cont. Ed? If so, consider that in the total package? If you want her CPR certified then you should offer to pay for the class and include this in the total compensation. In 1997, RNs were making about $14/hr. in a hospital (In upstate NY). In 2005, I worked in a private practice where the owner paid on the lower end, he paid his head RN $14/hr. I would consider what responsibilities you are expecting. If the nurse is basically taking a history and vitals and an occasional throat culture that is pretty basic and I would pay a fair wage but less than if you want the nurse to triage your patients’ calls, assist with procedures and function in a more technical role. I would not consider going below $16/hr., it would not be unreasonable to pay $20 and if the nurse if very experienced and is required to do more than basic nursing (as previously mentioned) I would consider a bit more like $22-24. Nurses in hospitals get uppers $20-30. When I graduated from NP school, I had peers who couldn’t afford to quit their RN jobs b/c they made more as a RN than a NP (w/ the nsg. shortage a per diem or F/T nurse with longevity at her job could easily make more). Talk about backwards! Things to think about…..if she(or he) stays awhile you have to have room to increase her wages, so don’t offer the top salary unless you are willing to go above that eventually. If you are not paying other benefits, I would pay a little more per hour as she will have her own expenses to pay for. If you go online to see what local agencies are offering, you can expect the pay will be a bit higher b/c they are not providing benefits so it is like working per diem….they often pay more per hour. If you cannot afford to pay much to keep your overhead low, promote the weekday hours, patient-centered practice (where the nurse can spend more time with patients and will have to rush less), nice environment, free parking, holidays off, one provider to assist rather than multi-provider practice. Just some ideas and my first thoughts. You can also ask what the nurse was making at her last job to get an idea what she will expect. Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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