Guest guest Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 It is true. The only problem is the type of liver you get when it regenerates. It is not known exactly why the hepatocytes come out scarred long after the original damage has stopped. When they discover this, then liver disease will become obsolete. You see, your liver is constantly regenerating. It is made up of lobules which are as big as a BB. One weekend of heavy drinking can actually destroy enough of your liver to cause alcoholic hepatitis, and a lot of people actually die from this. Then on Monday morning, the liver starts to heal, to re grow dead cells, and regenerate. Over time, scar tissue starts to form. When the scar tissue is enough to completely cover the individual lobules, it joins the lobules, and creates a web around each one, and they no longer touch each other. Since the liver is always regenerating, they enlarge, from BB size to pea size, then marble size and then to golf ball size, and that is when there is very little circulation between what used to be connected tissue. It is separated by heavy scar tissue. Some people are very unlucky, and their liver begins to malfunction, and they get very very sick and die right away. Other people have very strong livers, and even a few golf ball sized lobules can do the job of a whole liver, (20% is all you need) but there are still complications from the lobules not connecting together, mainly high blood pressure in the liver and lack of filtering. The high pressure leads to ascites, varicies, and the lack of filtering raises the nitric oxide in the blood stream, causing blood vessels to enlarge, and the spleen,and leads to hepatorenal syndrome and hepatopulmonary syndrome. All the while the liver keeps on regenerating, just not the way we want it too. I believe that science will discover the cure very very shortly. Love, Bobby ________________________________ To: " livercirrhosissupport " <livercirrhosissupport > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:30 PM Subject: Re: Re: new member saying hello  Bev, Fran and Bobby I heard somewhere that our livers will regenerate itself totally in 8 yrs!! So, my great and wonderful mind says to me, just the other day - if that is the case, then damage done by my drinking would be twice gone, since I have stayed sober for so long. I gotta ponder that one over! Gloria ________________________________  fran, i am not an expert but the liver is an organ that can regenerate nif not completely damaged.my brother offered to donate part of his to me when i first got sick but the dr said i have to much damage.also they do not do living liver donor tp here in tx .it is also a very serious procedures.it takes alot of decision making on both parties.. hope this helps.  bev,tx ________________________________ From: f_fwb <no_reply > To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:55 PM Subject: Re: new member saying hello  I'm new to the world of cirrhosis, and I'll prove it with this question. How can a living person donate their liver? Fran > > Hello everyone! > I'm a new member to this group and thought I would introduce myself. I am a single mom (dog mom) with two furkids (maltese), live in the Seattle area and work at Microsoft. That basically sums up my life - work and my dogs. I joined this support group to learn more about liver disease, transplants and of course find support from others who understand the challenges of health issues specifically liver issues. > > My sister has Autoimmune hepatitis and Autoimmune cholangitis. We are getting closer to transplant time based on her scores and general health. She has been diagnosed and ill for a long time; however, we are getting down to the wire, as they say. We hope to move forward with a live liver transplant and have the donor lined up and confirmed. This is my younger sister and the donor is my brother who is a couple of years older than I am. > > As with anyone you love it is challenging to watch someone struggle as you stand by watching helplessly. My sister is single so she is working to make sure she has insurance and take care of herself. My parents are elderly and unable to care for my sister but luckily my elder sister lives nearby. I'm not living in the same state so I'm not much help. > There's a short intro. I'd love to hear from anyone who has the same illness or their loved one is experiencing something similar. > Thank you! > . > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 I should have said that the scar tissue separates, not joins the liver lobules. Bobby  ________________________________ To: " livercirrhosissupport " <livercirrhosissupport > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:48 PM Subject: Re: Re: regenerating nodules  It is true. The only problem is the type of liver you get when it regenerates. It is not known exactly why the hepatocytes come out scarred long after the original damage has stopped. When they discover this, then liver disease will become obsolete. You see, your liver is constantly regenerating. It is made up of lobules which are as big as a BB. One weekend of heavy drinking can actually destroy enough of your liver to cause alcoholic hepatitis, and a lot of people actually die from this. Then on Monday morning, the liver starts to heal, to re grow dead cells, and regenerate. Over time, scar tissue starts to form. When the scar tissue is enough to completely cover the individual lobules, it joins the lobules, and creates a web around each one, and they no longer touch each other. Since the liver is always regenerating, they enlarge, from BB size to pea size, then marble size and then to golf ball size, and that is when there is very little circulation between what used to be connected tissue. It is separated by heavy scar tissue. Some people are very unlucky, and their liver begins to malfunction, and they get very very sick and die right away. Other people have very strong livers, and even a few golf ball sized lobules can do the job of a whole liver, (20% is all you need) but there are still complications from the lobules not connecting together, mainly high blood pressure in the liver and lack of filtering. The high pressure leads to ascites, varicies, and the lack of filtering raises the nitric oxide in the blood stream, causing blood vessels to enlarge, and the spleen,and leads to hepatorenal syndrome and hepatopulmonary syndrome. All the while the liver keeps on regenerating, just not the way we want it too. I believe that science will discover the cure very very shortly. Love, Bobby ________________________________ To: " livercirrhosissupport " <livercirrhosissupport > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:30 PM Subject: Re: Re: new member saying hello  Bev, Fran and Bobby I heard somewhere that our livers will regenerate itself totally in 8 yrs!! So, my great and wonderful mind says to me, just the other day - if that is the case, then damage done by my drinking would be twice gone, since I have stayed sober for so long. I gotta ponder that one over! Gloria ________________________________  fran, i am not an expert but the liver is an organ that can regenerate nif not completely damaged.my brother offered to donate part of his to me when i first got sick but the dr said i have to much damage.also they do not do living liver donor tp here in tx .it is also a very serious procedures.it takes alot of decision making on both parties.. hope this helps.  bev,tx ________________________________ From: f_fwb <no_reply > To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:55 PM Subject: Re: new member saying hello  I'm new to the world of cirrhosis, and I'll prove it with this question. How can a living person donate their liver? Fran > > Hello everyone! > I'm a new member to this group and thought I would introduce myself. I am a single mom (dog mom) with two furkids (maltese), live in the Seattle area and work at Microsoft. That basically sums up my life - work and my dogs. I joined this support group to learn more about liver disease, transplants and of course find support from others who understand the challenges of health issues specifically liver issues. > > My sister has Autoimmune hepatitis and Autoimmune cholangitis. We are getting closer to transplant time based on her scores and general health. She has been diagnosed and ill for a long time; however, we are getting down to the wire, as they say. We hope to move forward with a live liver transplant and have the donor lined up and confirmed. This is my younger sister and the donor is my brother who is a couple of years older than I am. > > As with anyone you love it is challenging to watch someone struggle as you stand by watching helplessly. My sister is single so she is working to make sure she has insurance and take care of herself. My parents are elderly and unable to care for my sister but luckily my elder sister lives nearby. I'm not living in the same state so I'm not much help. > There's a short intro. I'd love to hear from anyone who has the same illness or their loved one is experiencing something similar. > Thank you! > . > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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