Guest guest Posted March 12, 2000 Report Share Posted March 12, 2000 Candace, I've forwarded your last post to a gyn at UCLA. I may not get a response until Monday, however, and am extremely concerned about you in the meanwhile. I think the level of detail on surgical technique and materials you are asking about contains highly individualized preferences among gyn surgeons and is going to be terribly difficult for you to discern appropriately on your own or with the advice of any of the women on this list group. Any one person's commentary to you about their own myomectomy surgery would be purely " anecdotal " and probably not completely relevant to your own situation. (Any gyns on the list group care to speak up here????) I would say that you posted many things about your discussion with your gyn that would give me reason to think that she is truly interested in a positive outcome that is suitable to your desires to retain your uterus. The 1% statements are wonderful. This is the minimum requirement for informed consent -- she can't very well guarantee you of retaining your uterus -- there are always unknown risk factors that could occur. But just by saying this tells me that she has no intention of performing a hysterectomy. I am a little concerned about the consent form you signed, however. Does it contain a statement indicating that hysterectomy will only be performed in the case of life-threatening emergency? If not, it should. Even if you have to hand write it in. I am also concerned about the fact that your gyn has only done 2 supra cervical hysts and that she balked over this type of hyst. Verbal agreements mean nothing, BTW. (Sorry, I prescribe to the " trust no one " side of medicine.) Signature on a document means a lot. Words spoken aloud and not documented are soon forgotten and mean nothing during surgery -- or a court of law. You have a right to specify retention of your cervix. If she doesn't want to do it, that's her problem and something that, I would think, might give her a reason to refer you to another gyn who will do as you wish in this regard and do so competently with confidence. Provided that it's even necessary, that is. Hopefully it won't be. Even so, you should place your cards with the player who's going to follow your desires from square A to square Z. Not with one who is going to Rambo through the surgery with what is best for THEM and not YOU. Did you ask your gyn specifically how many myos she has performed in the last year? The last month? vs. how many hysterectomies? Did you ask how many myos she's performed that have turned into hysterectomies? Critical questions that can give you strength and confidence going into this surgery -- or make you cancel and start looking for another gyn immediately. You might want to call on Monday and ask. When you do, you might also want to ask about how to void the previous consent form you signed and how to go about signing a new one with any items you want to add or change. Just a thought. A conservative approach to the ovaries is reasonable. You should ask her about any potential change in her game plan should she find something unusual with the ovaries. I think by leaving the ovaries alone, they do often " bounce back. " However, dealing with them can sometimes present a new host of problems. It's a catch-22 on the risk factors here and much depends on what the doc sees when she does the surgery. The tummy tuck is unusual. But not unheard of. It also happens to be another line item that your gyn can bill separately for when they submit your insurance claim -- and since it's cosmetic it can be rejected by your insurance. You should check on this. If you don't want it, say so to your doctor and write it in on the consent form. BTW, in cases of emergency bleeding, an interventional radiologist can use gelfoam to stop the bleeding through embolization. This is uterine artery embolization -- but with a temporary embolic agent that is absorbed by the body after several weeks. It's been used for over 20 years for uncontrollable post-partum bleeding. I know you already donated your blood for possible transfusion, but it still doesn't hurt to ask your gyn if she knows about embolotherapy and if there will be an IR on call in the hospital the day of your procedure. At least open the door of discussion regarding extensive bleeding and how it will be managed. Hang in there. As for other people telling you what to do or not do.... it's so hard on us when the people who are near and dear to us don't understand the dilemma of our decision-making with surgery. Just remember one thing -- THEY don't have to live in your body after the surgery, YOU do. Ask them what they will do should this surgery turn out bad and you end up without your uterus and with a whole host of new problems. It happens. Ask them how they will support you and help you if it happens to you. Confidence in your surgeon and the choice you are making is critical. Would they want any less for themselves if they were looking at surgery? Go with your gut instincts Candace. If you feel you have all the information you need to make a decision and are still uncomfortable with the decision you are making, then I would be highly concerned about going forward and doing something that you are not ready for just yet. But only you know your body and what you can and cannot handle physically, mentally, and emotionally with your uterine fibroids. Uterine fibroids aren't generally life threatening and any surgery is considered elective. It's hard when fibroids are destroying us a little bit each day and consuming so much of our lives, but sometimes taking the necessary time to get additional surgical opinions can be a source of confidence building in making a decision. Best wishes to you, Carla Dionne mailto:cdionne@... http://www.uterinefibroids.com /list/uterinefibroids " Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world. Indeed it's the only thing that ever has. " Margaret Mead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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