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Hi Karina,

The wording in German is quite poor, since aufschließen is inappropriate

hier. On the other hand, this cannot be a typo for *ausschließen* according

to the inclusion criteria mentioned in

www.nice.org.uk/.../55_Paclitaxel_ovarianreview_Assessment_report.pdf and

http://journals.lww.com/ijgc/Abstract/2003/11001/Long_term_follow_up_confirm

s_a_survival_advantage.3.aspx

(…. the first results of a prospective randomized clinical trial (GOG-111).

In this trial,…..in women with newly diagnosed and suboptimally debulked

FIGO stage III or IV epithelial ovarian cancer ……….

.....The European-Canadian Intergroup study, referred to as OV-10, differed

from the GOG-111 study by including broader criteria for patient selection

**and recruiting women with optimally debulked** stage III or IV disease

....).

What is puzzling for me is that the literature I’ve found thus far and I

don't have time for any further searching appears to suggest that in the

European-Canadian trial patients with BOTH suboptimally AND optimally

debulked stage III or IV disease were included. (Your text says “NUR

suboptimalen Operationsergebnis). For this reason, the meaning of “included”

also appears somewhat questionable. Some explanation might be that the

source the author of your text is referring to only describes the results

for patients with suboptimally debulked cancer and in this case

" aufschließen” may have been used for “aufschlüsseln”.

I would strongly suggest that you contact the client, since the meaning

definitely is not clear and using a translation based on speculation just

isn't good enough.

Kind regards,

Astrid

________________________________________

Von: medical_translation

[mailto:medical_translation ] Im Auftrag von karina clement

Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Dezember 2010 09:34

An: groupe medical

Betreff: URGENT aufschliessen oder ausschliessen G/F

 

Bonjour

Dans un texte traitant sur le traitement du cancer ovarien se trouve la

phrase

suivante ; « Die oben aufgeführten Studien (GOG 111, GOG 111,

European-Canadian

Intergroup Trial) schlossen nur Patientinnen mit suboptimalen

Operationsergebnis

im Stadium III oder IV auf [McGuire et al. 1996, Piccart et al. 2000] »

Je ne sais pas si l’auteur a fait une erreur et qu’il parle du verbe

« ausschliessen » (exclure) ou s’il s’agit en fait du verbe aufschliessen.

Voici plus de contexte ;

Die oben aufgeführten Studien (GOG 111, GOG 111, European-Canadian

Intergroup

Trial) schlossen nur Patientinnen mit suboptimalen Operationsergebnis im

Stadium

III oder IV auf [McGuire et al. 1996, Piccart et al. 2000].

Ein direkter Vergleich dieser Studienergebnisse ist somit nur eingeschränkt

möglich. Daher wundert umso mehr die geringe Rate an makroskopisch tumorfrei

operierten Patientinnen von nur 30 %. Verschiedene Studien zeigen, dass

durch

Anwendung von multiviszeralen Operationstechniken ca. 35-65 % der

Patientinnen

selbst mit fortgeschrittenen Tumorstadien (FIGO III/IV) tumorfrei operiert

werden können [Lichtenegger et al. 1998, Eisenkop et al. 2001].

Qu'en pensez-vous?

Merci de votre aide.

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