Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011  I would def. be in favor of children first.  Dave ________________________________ From: vickij777 <no_reply > To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 9:54:58 PM Subject: new transplant laws  I've been watching for any comments about the new proposed laws concerning transplants that I heard on the evening news about a week ago. It hasn't been passed yet but they said there was little doubt that it would pass. The law proposes that age be figured in for those that receive a transplant. Basically, children would be higher on the list than an older person. I can understand their reasonings and just wonder what the group thinks. They were talking about kidney transplants but indicated that it would also affect hearts, livers, lungs, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Age at least on the upper end has been a consideration in some if not most states. I don't qualify here because I am over 65 even without the other disqualifying medical conditions. My father wasn't considered for a kidney transplant in Minnesota in 1990 because he was over 70. Some states might transplant me now, Florida is more lenient about age, Minnesota is/was, And I believe California transplants older people too from what I was told by a doctor at the Mayo Clinic Evaluation center. But, even if they would transplant me, I couldn't take a live donor organ from one of my kids or grandchildren, they have the rest of their life to live, and there is probably someone else out there who could use a cadaver liver a lot longer than I could. I haven't heard anything lately, but a few months ago when they were talking about Obamacare, something was said about not transplanting those who have alcoholic cirrhosis regardless if they had stopped drinking or not. That doesn't seem fair to me if they have stopped. I am not an alcoholic, recovering ot not, but if I had been and got cirrhosis, they would have put it down to the drinking because I have the same fatty tissue type that alcoholics get. Some alcoholics get it, some don't. Some of those who do get it may be the same as me, they got it from some other cause such as family tendancy to liver problems, overdosing on certain medications, lack of treatment or undertreatment of thyroid conditions or any of the suspected or not even thought of reasons why some of us get cirrhosis. To me, it seems those who have had the strenght to quit drinking while living with the stress of a possible terminal illness without a transplant should be equal to the rest of us. Jan On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 8:54 PM, vickij777 <no_reply > wrote: > I've been watching for any comments about the new proposed laws concerning transplants that I heard on the evening news about a week ago. It hasn't been passed yet but they said there was little doubt that it would pass. The law proposes that age be figured in for those that receive a transplant. Basically, children would be higher on the list than an older person. I can understand their reasonings and just wonder what the group thinks. They were talking about kidney transplants but indicated that it would also affect hearts, livers, lungs, etc. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Group Email: livercirrhosissupport > web address: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/livercirrhosissupport/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I agree, but they also have to take into consideration the size of the organ they are transplanting.. I doubt if they could put an adult's heart into a very young child or baby. And that same child probably wouldn't have the chest space to transplant the lungs of an adult either. I would be very upset if they took a child's organ and transplanted into an adult of any age when there are children out there dying. Jan > I would def. be in favor of children first. > Dave > > > > > ________________________________ > From: vickij777 <no_reply > > To: livercirrhosissupport > Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 9:54:58 PM > Subject: new transplant laws > > > I've been watching for any comments about the new proposed laws concerning > transplants that I heard on the evening news about a week ago. It hasn't been > passed yet but they said there was little doubt that it would pass. The law > proposes that age be figured in for those that receive a transplant. Basically, > children would be higher on the list than an older person. I can understand > their reasonings and just wonder what the group thinks. They were talking about > kidney transplants but indicated that it would also affect hearts, livers, > lungs, etc. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I just don't know.... How would I feel if my husband were really, really sick...perhaps dying without a transp[lant and they gave it to a child who was not as sick? Hmmmm... hard question?  How can healthy people ,who are not affected by organ failure, make this huge  decisions as to who gets the organ first?                                                                            Love,Jill  We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ From: vickij777 <no_reply > To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 10:54:58 PM Subject: new transplant laws  I've been watching for any comments about the new proposed laws concerning transplants that I heard on the evening news about a week ago. It hasn't been passed yet but they said there was little doubt that it would pass. The law proposes that age be figured in for those that receive a transplant. Basically, children would be higher on the list than an older person. I can understand their reasonings and just wonder what the group thinks. They were talking about kidney transplants but indicated that it would also affect hearts, livers, lungs, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I agree,Jan..it seems that haven't factored in the logistics of it all.                                                                            Love,Jill  We don't remember days, we remember moments. Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our breath away. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 11:33:03 PM Subject: Re: new transplant laws  I agree, but they also have to take into consideration the size of the organ they are transplanting.. I doubt if they could put an adult's heart into a very young child or baby. And that same child probably wouldn't have the chest space to transplant the lungs of an adult either. I would be very upset if they took a child's organ and transplanted into an adult of any age when there are children out there dying. Jan >  I would def. be in favor of children first. >  Dave > > > > > ________________________________ > From: vickij777 <no_reply > > To: livercirrhosissupport > Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 9:54:58 PM > Subject: new transplant laws > > > I've been watching for any comments about the new proposed laws concerning > transplants that I heard on the evening news about a week ago. It hasn't been > passed yet but they said there was little doubt that it would pass. The law > proposes that age be figured in for those that receive a transplant. Basically, > children would be higher on the list than an older person. I can understand > their reasonings and just wonder what the group thinks. They were talking about > kidney transplants but indicated that it would also affect hearts, livers, > lungs, etc. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I made a misstatement in the post I made yesterday. It is not unos, the government in general who is not going to consider transplanting recovering alcoholics with cirrhosis, it is my state insurance which isn't going to cover it. Sorry about that. Jan > I just don't know.... How would I feel if my husband were really, really > sick...perhaps dying without a transp[lant and they gave it to a child who was > not as sick? Hmmmm... hard question? How can healthy people ,who are not > affected by organ failure, make this huge decisions as to who gets the organ > first? > > > > Love,Jill > > We don't remember days, we remember moments. > Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our > breath away. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: vickij777 <no_reply > > To: livercirrhosissupport > Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 10:54:58 PM > Subject: new transplant laws > > > I've been watching for any comments about the new proposed laws concerning > transplants that I heard on the evening news about a week ago. It hasn't been > passed yet but they said there was little doubt that it would pass. The law > proposes that age be figured in for those that receive a transplant. Basically, > children would be higher on the list than an older person. I can understand > their reasonings and just wonder what the group thinks. They were talking about > kidney transplants but indicated that it would also affect hearts, livers, > lungs, etc. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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