Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 Probably the same way that when someone is breaking into their home or beating the hell out of them they call a family member who in turn calls 9-1-1???? Jen s Abilene PD/Abilene TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 In a message dated 2/6/2001 11:11:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, stniko@... writes: << Anybody here ever wonder how a 12-unit apartment complex in the middle of town, next to several other apartment complexes, can get to the point where it is 3/4 engulfed in flames before anybody notices and calls us? >> Having spent a good portion of my career riding those big red trucks as well as in communications, very few things cease to amaze me. We arrived at a fully involved medical lab fire one evening. It was located on a state highway. Several people passed it in the previous hours and thought someone was burning construction debris (apparently cleverly disguised as a building.) Another time we pulled up at a house around 5-30 AM. It looked like a movie set. Flames were coming out of every window. I figured it was either vacant or everybody was dead - that's how bad the fire was. We found the family intact at the neighbors. This is a synopsis of the events: 1. Wife hears noise - wakes up husband 2. Husband assumes clumsy dog is banging into stuff downstairs. (Actually things breaking from the heat - BTW - no smoke detectors.) 3. Wife sees orange glow on window - assumes neighbors house on fire. 4. Husband determines orange glow to be inside of window - downstairs kitchen in their house is on fire. 5. Wife, dog, and husband leave house. 6. Husband returns to call FD. Phone is in kitchen that is on fire. 7. Kitchen too smoky. Husband goes outside to catch breath. 8. Repeat steps 6 & 7. 9. Repeat step 8. 10. Go to neighbor's house. 11. Bang on Door. 12. Repeat step 11. 13. Wake up neighbor to call FD. 14. While waiting for FD to arrive remember watching firefighters on TV. 15. Remember they break windows to let out heat and smoke. 16. Forget they do not do this at random. 17. Forget that they have large hoses ready when they do this. 18. Run around the exterior of your house and throw your lawn furniture through every window you can reach. 19. Wait for FD. 20. Break out marshmallows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 > > 14. While waiting for FD to arrive remember watching firefighters on TV. > 15. Remember they break windows to let out heat and smoke. > 16. Forget they do not do this at random. > 17. Forget that they have large hoses ready when they do this. > 18. Run around the exterior of your house and throw your lawn furniture > through every > window you can reach. > 19. Wait for FD. > 20. Break out marshmallows. Seeing as we just had a fire department lose a Mcs Restaurant under " similar " circumstances, I thought this was rather humorous, in fact, it took me a few minutes to catch my breath from laughing. J. Fred in Salem NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 In a message dated 2/6/01 11:11:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, stniko@... writes: > Anybody here ever wonder how a 12-unit apartment complex in the middle of > town, next to several other apartment complexes, can get to the point where > it is 3/4 engulfed in flames before anybody notices and calls us? > > Or everybody thought someone else called it in. The fire is so big somebody must have called it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 >To: " The Console " <911console > > >Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:08:35 -0600 >Reply-To: 911console >Subject: 911:: question > >Anybody here ever wonder how a 12-unit apartment complex in the middle of >town, next to several other apartment complexes, can get to the point where >it is 3/4 engulfed in flames before anybody notices and calls us? > It does happen. One night about 4am the 100 volunteer members of our fire department, including myself, were called out for a fully engulfed tractor trailer burning in a parking lot. Upon arrival we found a patrol car parked right next to the inferno with the other on duty officer banging on it and trying to unlock the door with the lockout tool. Seems that the one cop had gone to a favorite hiding spot rather than drive around falling asleep. It took another 5 minutes to arouse him but he was ok. Rich Rich Dean, NJ USA .. secondary email addresses are rldean@..., deanr@... .. HS Class of 1970, Vol Firefighter since 1973, Telecommunciator/Dispatch since 1975, Railfan since birth in 1952.. Founder of Egroups.com groups for NJArea, Fire-Police, NJ_Area_Railpics, NorthAmericanParades and NorthJerseyVolFire.. Member of many more online groups such as nysw@..., nyswegroups, tiersightings@egroups, Fire-L@topica, Firepics@egroups, 911dispatcher@egroups ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 >To: 911console >From: BarryFurey@... >Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:50:14 EST > >Having spent a good portion of my career riding those big red trucks as well >as in communications, very few things cease to amaze me. We arrived at a >fully involved medical lab fire one evening. It was located on a state >highway. Several people passed it in the previous hours and thought someone >was burning construction debris (apparently cleverly disguised as a building.) > Where is burning of constructin debris permitted? In New Jersey all open burning was outlawed 30 years ago, with very few exceptions that require permits (agricultural, campfires, training). This was done for environmental reasons. Of course it always amazes me that friends and relatives in nearby PA & NY are still allowed to dispose of household papers by burning them in a barrel and they can burn their fallen leaves as they desire. If we receive a report of something burning that is contained, we will still call out at least one fire company unless the permit from the local Fire Official is on file with us. Rich Dean, NJ USA .. secondary email addresses are rldean@..., deanr@... .. HS Class of 1970, Vol Firefighter since 1973, Telecommunciator/Dispatch since 1975, Railfan since birth in 1952.. Founder of Egroups.com groups for NJArea, Fire-Police, NJ_Area_Railpics, NorthAmericanParades and NorthJerseyVolFire.. Member of many more online groups such as nysw@..., nyswegroups, tiersightings@egroups, Fire-L@topica, Firepics@egroups, 911dispatcher@egroups ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 >To: <911console > > >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:58:31 -0600 >Reply-To: 911console >Subject: Re: 911:: question > >burning of what ever you want is allowed here... your serious??? outlawed >for 30 years??? wowww not sure about in the bigger cities of our state but >in most counties around here in the county part you can burn what ever you >want you own the land. ... I mean ya cant just burn a house down but leaves >old buildings... generally you call the volunteer fire dept and they send >out people on the one day a week they train and watch it for you but other >than that people even in the cities (not sure about permits there) but they >burn leaves what ever unless there is a ban on during the dry season. > It was only in the past several years that the practice of using old buildings for live burn drills was again permitted, but only by permit and only after the construction official signed off on it that the building was safe. In the 1970's the chief and other officers of a nearby volunteer fire company were charged with arson by the prosecutor's office of that county and indicted by the grand jury. Many times I've not only blown out the FD's but also responded as a member of one for leaves burning only to find out that a new state resident was doing some clean up. I guess that's why the cost for disposal of household trash, yard waste and recycling is quite high here. For example it's something like half a million dollars annually for our town of 8,000 people. Rich Dean, NJ USA .. secondary email addresses are rldean@..., deanr@... .. HS Class of 1970, Vol Firefighter since 1973, Telecommunciator/Dispatch since 1975, Railfan since birth in 1952.. Founder of Egroups.com groups for NJArea, Fire-Police, NJ_Area_Railpics, NorthAmericanParades and NorthJerseyVolFire.. Member of many more online groups such as nysw@..., nyswegroups, tiersightings@egroups, Fire-L@topica, Firepics@egroups, 911dispatcher@egroups ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 so were you dancing around seductively... or what? At 06:23 02/07/2001 -0800, Dean wrote: > It took another 5 minutes to arouse him but he was ok. > > Rich Garmon Communications http://www.fau.edu/police thoughts are mine and mine alone.. apologies to those without a sense of humor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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