Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 It is so sad to hear about the deaths, and my prayers are with the people who are grieving, the survivors. Dave, I pray too that you can conquer this depression. I am sure you now that isolating yourself does not help. I speak from experience of many years. I find it ironic because I am concerned for my daughter who had her baby over two months early. She is depressed because she isn't pregnant anymore. I haven't found out yet if it is because of guilt she feels for not going to the er earlier thinking if she had they could have stopped the labor. I have been told that is a common reaction. But the depression is normal too regardless of the cause. I just haveto talk her into taking the help for couseling the staff has offered her. So far she has turned them down, but a friend who worked in the unit where he was born told me that if she doesn't get help now it could turn into something more permanent. Like what Shields had. The baby is progressing quickly, and the doctor said he is doing so well that they will be able to transfer him to the hospital in their home town within two weeks. . She is really looking forward to that. There are some pictures of him on my facebook page might have to go down a bit to read them.And there should be a Caring Bridge page up now or soon too. Jan > I'm so sorry to hear this. > > Penny > > > >> >> Dear group, I am sorry to have to tell you all that passed away >> last Friday morning, Feb 5, 2011. I was checking my phone messages, and found a >> message from her mom in there. She died from cardiac arrest after a bout with >> pneumonia. first posted on Tue Oct 14, 2008. >> >> >> She contacted me shortly after she joined and we spent many night instant >> messaging. had end stage liver disease secondary to Hep C and alcohol. She >> was quite a character, and is survived by an adult son and daughter, and mother. >> >> Many of you knew , and she was one of my closest friends on here, and I >> will miss her. Love, Bobby >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ >> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >> with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. >> http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Thanks Jan...I think the depression has become permanent..but is getting worse. I've tried so many antidepressants I can't remember all I have tried to tell the doc's..I had kind of accepted it as my reality, and decided to just live with it, but it is does seem to be progressing. Have been getting iron infusions for the last 5 weeks, and get my next today. They will then wait 2 weeks and check my levels. I have more energy from it I think, but don't feel better mentally. I think I was hoping when I felt better physically I'd be better mentally. Since I haven't this is adding to the depression maybe. Kind of like it is a hopeless condition that is only progressing.    Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 11:53:44 PM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace  It is so sad to hear about the deaths, and my prayers are with the people who are grieving, the survivors. Dave, I pray too that you can conquer this depression. I am sure you now that isolating yourself does not help. I speak from experience of many years. I find it ironic because I am concerned for my daughter who had her baby over two months early. She is depressed because she isn't pregnant anymore. I haven't found out yet if it is because of guilt she feels for not going to the er earlier thinking if she had they could have stopped the labor. I have been told that is a common reaction. But the depression is normal too regardless of the cause. I just haveto talk her into taking the help for couseling the staff has offered her. So far she has turned them down, but a friend who worked in the unit where he was born told me that if she doesn't get help now it could turn into something more permanent. Like what Shields had. The baby is progressing quickly, and the doctor said he is doing so well that they will be able to transfer him to the hospital in their home town within two weeks. . She is really looking forward to that. There are some pictures of him on my facebook page might have to go down a bit to read them.And there should be a Caring Bridge page up now or soon too. Jan > I'm so sorry to hear this. > > Penny > > > >> >> Dear group, I am sorry to have to tell you all that passed away >> last Friday morning, Feb 5, 2011. I was checking my phone messages, and found >a >> message from her mom in there. She died from cardiac arrest after a bout with >> pneumonia. first posted on Tue Oct 14, 2008. >> >> >> She contacted me shortly after she joined and we spent many night instant >> messaging. had end stage liver disease secondary to Hep C and alcohol. >>She >> was quite a character, and is survived by an adult son and daughter, and >>mother. >> >> Many of you knew , and she was one of my closest friends on here, and I >> will miss her. Love, Bobby >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >> with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. >> http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Dave I am so osrry to hear about your depression but am getting the information that was meant for you as I am having the same problem. The doctors say anti depressants don't help when it is caused from a physical illness. I to am trying just to get through each day and remember not to cry in front of people they don't like it. So put one foot in front of the other and march on as they say. I think a big part of the problem for me is the not sleeping, how is your sleep? Joan ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 11:25:11 AM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace Thanks Jan...I think the depression has become permanent..but is getting worse. I've tried so many antidepressants I can't remember all I have tried to tell the doc's..I had kind of accepted it as my reality, and decided to just live with it, but it is does seem to be progressing. Have been getting iron infusions for the last 5 weeks, and get my next today. They will then wait 2 weeks and check my levels. I have more energy from it I think, but don't feel better mentally. I think I was hoping when I felt better physically I'd be better mentally. Since I haven't this is adding to the depression maybe. Kind of like it is a hopeless condition that is only progressing. Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 11:53:44 PM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace It is so sad to hear about the deaths, and my prayers are with the people who are grieving, the survivors. Dave, I pray too that you can conquer this depression. I am sure you now that isolating yourself does not help. I speak from experience of many years. I find it ironic because I am concerned for my daughter who had her baby over two months early. She is depressed because she isn't pregnant anymore. I haven't found out yet if it is because of guilt she feels for not going to the er earlier thinking if she had they could have stopped the labor. I have been told that is a common reaction. But the depression is normal too regardless of the cause. I just haveto talk her into taking the help for couseling the staff has offered her. So far she has turned them down, but a friend who worked in the unit where he was born told me that if she doesn't get help now it could turn into something more permanent. Like what Shields had. The baby is progressing quickly, and the doctor said he is doing so well that they will be able to transfer him to the hospital in their home town within two weeks. . She is really looking forward to that. There are some pictures of him on my facebook page might have to go down a bit to read them.And there should be a Caring Bridge page up now or soon too. Jan > I'm so sorry to hear this. > > Penny > > > >> >> Dear group, I am sorry to have to tell you all that passed away >> last Friday morning, Feb 5, 2011. I was checking my phone messages, and found >a >> message from her mom in there. She died from cardiac arrest after a bout with >> pneumonia. first posted on Tue Oct 14, 2008. >> >> >> She contacted me shortly after she joined and we spent many night instant >> messaging. had end stage liver disease secondary to Hep C and alcohol. >>She >> was quite a character, and is survived by an adult son and daughter, and >>mother. >> >> Many of you knew , and she was one of my closest friends on here, and I >> will miss her. Love, Bobby >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >> with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. >> http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011    Joan, I could sleep better, but am grateful for the sleep I do get. I have been taking generic ambien for nearly 3 yrs. now.  They tried taking me off last summer and I can't sleep without it. I haven't been diagnosed with encephalopathy, but have worried about getting somthing like that causing my personality problems. Have had depression off and on since 1995, but my job and activity kept it at bay. Now that I am disabled is when it has gotten progressively worse.  Getting a lot of social anxiety lately. Go somewhere like Walmart and can't bring myself to go inside sometimes.  They say the things you fear the most will come upon you. I use to see unhappy lonely looking people and feel bad for them, and worry I'd be that way someday. And sure enough now I am them.       Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 2:36:16 PM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace  Dave I am so osrry to hear about your depression but am getting the information that was meant for you as I am having the same problem. The doctors say anti depressants don't help when it is caused from a physical illness. I to am trying just to get through each day and remember not to cry in front of people they don't like it. So put one foot in front of the other and march on as they say. I think a big part of the problem for me is the not sleeping, how is your sleep? Joan ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 11:25:11 AM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace Thanks Jan...I think the depression has become permanent..but is getting worse. I've tried so many antidepressants I can't remember all I have tried to tell the doc's..I had kind of accepted it as my reality, and decided to just live with it, but it is does seem to be progressing. Have been getting iron infusions for the last 5 weeks, and get my next today. They will then wait 2 weeks and check my levels. I have more energy from it I think, but don't feel better mentally. I think I was hoping when I felt better physically I'd be better mentally. Since I haven't this is adding to the depression maybe. Kind of like it is a hopeless condition that is only progressing. Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 11:53:44 PM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace It is so sad to hear about the deaths, and my prayers are with the people who are grieving, the survivors. Dave, I pray too that you can conquer this depression. I am sure you now that isolating yourself does not help. I speak from experience of many years. I find it ironic because I am concerned for my daughter who had her baby over two months early. She is depressed because she isn't pregnant anymore. I haven't found out yet if it is because of guilt she feels for not going to the er earlier thinking if she had they could have stopped the labor. I have been told that is a common reaction. But the depression is normal too regardless of the cause. I just haveto talk her into taking the help for couseling the staff has offered her. So far she has turned them down, but a friend who worked in the unit where he was born told me that if she doesn't get help now it could turn into something more permanent. Like what Shields had. The baby is progressing quickly, and the doctor said he is doing so well that they will be able to transfer him to the hospital in their home town within two weeks. . She is really looking forward to that. There are some pictures of him on my facebook page might have to go down a bit to read them.And there should be a Caring Bridge page up now or soon too. Jan > I'm so sorry to hear this. > > Penny > > > >> >> Dear group, I am sorry to have to tell you all that passed away >> last Friday morning, Feb 5, 2011. I was checking my phone messages, and found >a >> message from her mom in there. She died from cardiac arrest after a bout with >> pneumonia. first posted on Tue Oct 14, 2008. >> >> >> She contacted me shortly after she joined and we spent many night instant >> messaging. had end stage liver disease secondary to Hep C and alcohol. >>She >> was quite a character, and is survived by an adult son and daughter, and >>mother. >> >> Many of you knew , and she was one of my closest friends on here, and I >> will miss her. Love, Bobby >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >> with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. >> http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 dave are you taking xifaxfan the gave me that for my mind,also lots od lactolose.they but on abien but it made me like a zombie for acouple and i would walk in my sleep now i am on lunesta and lexapro for depression i feel like i am going crazy sometimes hope this information might help. bev,tx ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 5:17:10 PM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace     Joan, I could sleep better, but am grateful for the sleep I do get. I have been taking generic ambien for nearly 3 yrs. now.  They tried taking me off last summer and I can't sleep without it. I haven't been diagnosed with encephalopathy, but have worried about getting somthing like that causing my personality problems. Have had depression off and on since 1995, but my job and activity kept it at bay. Now that I am disabled is when it has gotten progressively worse.  Getting a lot of social anxiety lately. Go somewhere like Walmart and can't bring myself to go inside sometimes.  They say the things you fear the most will come upon you. I use to see unhappy lonely looking people and feel bad for them, and worry I'd be that way someday. And sure enough now I am them.       Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 2:36:16 PM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace  Dave I am so osrry to hear about your depression but am getting the information that was meant for you as I am having the same problem. The doctors say anti depressants don't help when it is caused from a physical illness. I to am trying just to get through each day and remember not to cry in front of people they don't like it. So put one foot in front of the other and march on as they say. I think a big part of the problem for me is the not sleeping, how is your sleep? Joan ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 11:25:11 AM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace Thanks Jan...I think the depression has become permanent..but is getting worse. I've tried so many antidepressants I can't remember all I have tried to tell the doc's..I had kind of accepted it as my reality, and decided to just live with it, but it is does seem to be progressing. Have been getting iron infusions for the last 5 weeks, and get my next today. They will then wait 2 weeks and check my levels. I have more energy from it I think, but don't feel better mentally. I think I was hoping when I felt better physically I'd be better mentally. Since I haven't this is adding to the depression maybe. Kind of like it is a hopeless condition that is only progressing. Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 11:53:44 PM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace It is so sad to hear about the deaths, and my prayers are with the people who are grieving, the survivors. Dave, I pray too that you can conquer this depression. I am sure you now that isolating yourself does not help. I speak from experience of many years. I find it ironic because I am concerned for my daughter who had her baby over two months early. She is depressed because she isn't pregnant anymore. I haven't found out yet if it is because of guilt she feels for not going to the er earlier thinking if she had they could have stopped the labor. I have been told that is a common reaction. But the depression is normal too regardless of the cause. I just haveto talk her into taking the help for couseling the staff has offered her. So far she has turned them down, but a friend who worked in the unit where he was born told me that if she doesn't get help now it could turn into something more permanent. Like what Shields had. The baby is progressing quickly, and the doctor said he is doing so well that they will be able to transfer him to the hospital in their home town within two weeks. . She is really looking forward to that. There are some pictures of him on my facebook page might have to go down a bit to read them.And there should be a Caring Bridge page up now or soon too. Jan > I'm so sorry to hear this. > > Penny > > > >> >> Dear group, I am sorry to have to tell you all that passed away >> last Friday morning, Feb 5, 2011. I was checking my phone messages, and found >a >> message from her mom in there. She died from cardiac arrest after a bout with >> pneumonia. first posted on Tue Oct 14, 2008. >> >> >> She contacted me shortly after she joined and we spent many night instant >> messaging. had end stage liver disease secondary to Hep C and alcohol. >>She >> was quite a character, and is survived by an adult son and daughter, and >>mother. >> >> Many of you knew , and she was one of my closest friends on here, and I >> will miss her. Love, Bobby >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >> with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. >> http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Dave, I have tried lorazapam which I think is about the same thing as ambien and it did not help at all. They tested me and said I do not have encephalopthy but I don't know if they are right. I cannot sleep, I cannot think, I am so irritable it is horrible or I am crying. I still work 2 part time jobs, the doctors want me to go off on disability but I am afraid that if I do the sleep, mood swings, irritability and all the rest of it will only get worst so I am trying to keep going. I have not told either of my employers about my illness and I know they see the difference in me personally because comments have been made. But also in my performance on the job as the memory goes so does my ability to do a good job. So they may force me onto disability without realizing they are even doing it. Joan ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 8:17:10 PM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace Joan, I could sleep better, but am grateful for the sleep I do get. I have been taking generic ambien for nearly 3 yrs. now. They tried taking me off last summer and I can't sleep without it. I haven't been diagnosed with encephalopathy, but have worried about getting somthing like that causing my personality problems. Have had depression off and on since 1995, but my job and activity kept it at bay. Now that I am disabled is when it has gotten progressively worse. Getting a lot of social anxiety lately. Go somewhere like Walmart and can't bring myself to go inside sometimes. They say the things you fear the most will come upon you. I use to see unhappy lonely looking people and feel bad for them, and worry I'd be that way someday. And sure enough now I am them. Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 2:36:16 PM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace Dave I am so osrry to hear about your depression but am getting the information that was meant for you as I am having the same problem. The doctors say anti depressants don't help when it is caused from a physical illness. I to am trying just to get through each day and remember not to cry in front of people they don't like it. So put one foot in front of the other and march on as they say. I think a big part of the problem for me is the not sleeping, how is your sleep? Joan ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 11:25:11 AM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace Thanks Jan...I think the depression has become permanent..but is getting worse. I've tried so many antidepressants I can't remember all I have tried to tell the doc's..I had kind of accepted it as my reality, and decided to just live with it, but it is does seem to be progressing. Have been getting iron infusions for the last 5 weeks, and get my next today. They will then wait 2 weeks and check my levels. I have more energy from it I think, but don't feel better mentally. I think I was hoping when I felt better physically I'd be better mentally. Since I haven't this is adding to the depression maybe. Kind of like it is a hopeless condition that is only progressing. Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 11:53:44 PM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace It is so sad to hear about the deaths, and my prayers are with the people who are grieving, the survivors. Dave, I pray too that you can conquer this depression. I am sure you now that isolating yourself does not help. I speak from experience of many years. I find it ironic because I am concerned for my daughter who had her baby over two months early. She is depressed because she isn't pregnant anymore. I haven't found out yet if it is because of guilt she feels for not going to the er earlier thinking if she had they could have stopped the labor. I have been told that is a common reaction. But the depression is normal too regardless of the cause. I just haveto talk her into taking the help for couseling the staff has offered her. So far she has turned them down, but a friend who worked in the unit where he was born told me that if she doesn't get help now it could turn into something more permanent. Like what Shields had. The baby is progressing quickly, and the doctor said he is doing so well that they will be able to transfer him to the hospital in their home town within two weeks. . She is really looking forward to that. There are some pictures of him on my facebook page might have to go down a bit to read them.And there should be a Caring Bridge page up now or soon too. Jan > I'm so sorry to hear this. > > Penny > > > >> >> Dear group, I am sorry to have to tell you all that passed away >> last Friday morning, Feb 5, 2011. I was checking my phone messages, and found >a >> message from her mom in there. She died from cardiac arrest after a bout with >> pneumonia. first posted on Tue Oct 14, 2008. >> >> >> She contacted me shortly after she joined and we spent many night instant >> messaging. had end stage liver disease secondary to Hep C and alcohol. >>She >> was quite a character, and is survived by an adult son and daughter, and >>mother. >> >> Many of you knew , and she was one of my closest friends on here, and I >> will miss her. Love, Bobby >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >> with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. >> http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Beverly, I tried lexapro but it made me feel hyper as have all I've tried...haven't been diagnosed with encephalopathy yet so not taking the other two meds.  Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 11:32:21 PM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace  dave are you taking xifaxfan the gave me that for my mind,also lots od lactolose.they but on abien but it made me like a zombie for acouple and i would walk in my sleep now i am on lunesta and lexapro for depression i feel like i am going crazy sometimes hope this information might help. bev,tx ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 5:17:10 PM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace     Joan, I could sleep better, but am grateful for the sleep I do get. I have been taking generic ambien for nearly 3 yrs. now.  They tried taking me off last summer and I can't sleep without it. I haven't been diagnosed with encephalopathy, but have worried about getting somthing like that causing my personality problems. Have had depression off and on since 1995, but my job and activity kept it at bay. Now that I am disabled is when it has gotten progressively worse.  Getting a lot of social anxiety lately. Go somewhere like Walmart and can't bring myself to go inside sometimes.  They say the things you fear the most will come upon you. I use to see unhappy lonely looking people and feel bad for them, and worry I'd be that way someday. And sure enough now I am them.       Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 2:36:16 PM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace  Dave I am so osrry to hear about your depression but am getting the information that was meant for you as I am having the same problem. The doctors say anti depressants don't help when it is caused from a physical illness. I to am trying just to get through each day and remember not to cry in front of people they don't like it. So put one foot in front of the other and march on as they say. I think a big part of the problem for me is the not sleeping, how is your sleep? Joan ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 11:25:11 AM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace Thanks Jan...I think the depression has become permanent..but is getting worse. I've tried so many antidepressants I can't remember all I have tried to tell the doc's..I had kind of accepted it as my reality, and decided to just live with it, but it is does seem to be progressing. Have been getting iron infusions for the last 5 weeks, and get my next today. They will then wait 2 weeks and check my levels. I have more energy from it I think, but don't feel better mentally. I think I was hoping when I felt better physically I'd be better mentally. Since I haven't this is adding to the depression maybe. Kind of like it is a hopeless condition that is only progressing. Dave ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 11:53:44 PM Subject: Re: Re: , rest in peace It is so sad to hear about the deaths, and my prayers are with the people who are grieving, the survivors. Dave, I pray too that you can conquer this depression. I am sure you now that isolating yourself does not help. I speak from experience of many years. I find it ironic because I am concerned for my daughter who had her baby over two months early. She is depressed because she isn't pregnant anymore. I haven't found out yet if it is because of guilt she feels for not going to the er earlier thinking if she had they could have stopped the labor. I have been told that is a common reaction. But the depression is normal too regardless of the cause. I just haveto talk her into taking the help for couseling the staff has offered her. So far she has turned them down, but a friend who worked in the unit where he was born told me that if she doesn't get help now it could turn into something more permanent. Like what Shields had. The baby is progressing quickly, and the doctor said he is doing so well that they will be able to transfer him to the hospital in their home town within two weeks. . She is really looking forward to that. There are some pictures of him on my facebook page might have to go down a bit to read them.And there should be a Caring Bridge page up now or soon too. Jan > I'm so sorry to hear this. > > Penny > > > >> >> Dear group, I am sorry to have to tell you all that passed away >> last Friday morning, Feb 5, 2011. I was checking my phone messages, and found >a >> message from her mom in there. She died from cardiac arrest after a bout with >> pneumonia. first posted on Tue Oct 14, 2008. >> >> >> She contacted me shortly after she joined and we spent many night instant >> messaging. had end stage liver disease secondary to Hep C and alcohol. >>She >> was quite a character, and is survived by an adult son and daughter, and >>mother. >> >> Many of you knew , and she was one of my closest friends on here, and I >> will miss her. Love, Bobby >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >> with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. >> http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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