Re: Re: what are the symptoms

February 11, 2011

I agree with this post. I had always shied away from any kind of pill, and all

medicines. I did not know that if left untreated, pain can become like a leaking

faucet, and become a permanent signal. This is from damage to the dorsal horn,

and basal ganglia in the spinal cord, which is the pathway to our brains for

pain signals. It is very very important for a patient to become informed on this

topic, not only for themselves, but also for thier loved ones. Virtually every

one will need medicare care, and this ball can be dropped, leaving a suffering

family member in pain. My brother had surgery for a torn ACL, and they hooked

him to a pain pump after surgery, and later in the night around 2 am, he was

writhing in pain, drenched with sweat, and the nurse noticed his heart rate

elevated, and him running a fever, and he couldn't stop squirming, she checked

the machine with dispenses the pain medicine, and found that he had not received

one single dose!! The vial was FULL. They gave him a bolus dose of morphine and

got his pain pump working, and he was much much better.

I read the handout for pain management at the hepatologists office today, and

found that our hospital is at least trying to dispel major myths about pain

management. The pamphlet clears up misconceptions about pain medicine, and I

hope that people in this group can find similar reading at their hospitals.

Love, Bobby

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To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 3:43:00 PM

Subject: Re: what are the symptoms

A liver biopsy will determine at what stage the cirrhosis is at. If caught in

time it can be managed better. Follow your doctors advise..... no drinking and

eat lots of fruits and veggies. Lots of water is a must and try to eat vegetable

fats not animal fats because you have a fatty liver already. Regular blood tests

can also determine, although not as accurately, how your liver is functioning.

The liver acts like a filter for our bodies. If this 'filter' is blocked as in

cirrhosis caused by a fatty liver, it causes all sorts of problems over time.

Pain unfortunately is a part of that problem. My mother had terrible pain in her

back, abdomin and side.Multiple trips to the ER never pin pointed exactly why

this pain was happening other than it was related to the liver problems. She had

a fatty liver as well as cirrhosis from being an alcoholic.It was a very

frustrating experience for her and us. The pain would come and go, move up and

down and around her belly, be worse some days than others and then just

disappear. A pain management doctor is a must if you find out in the future that

the cirrhosis has advanced to more than 3/4 of the liver.I wish now that we had

gone to a pain management doctor because the ER doctors and her regular MD did

not manage this properly. That would be my advise to you. Don't know much about

the Pancreas, other than its what regulates our sugar. If you are a diabetic,

normally you have pancreatic problems. Anyhow, hope you get proper care and pain

management and that you have some family to watch over you. Liver disease can be

very complicated.

>

> Hey just wandering

> I was diagnose with (nash) I now have cirrosis I just saw the hepatologist for

>the first time on Monday. He order several blood test

> i have had pain in my abdomin for several weeks...had all kind of scans

> MRI s...ect....all test shows nothing there to cause the discomfort...my liver

>is not inflamed.....so whats causing the pain?

> How do they monitor the cirrosis...can this cause problem with my pancreas?? I

>feel fine other than the discomfort in my side...can anyone laberate on

>this....thanks for your feedback!

>

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February 11, 2011

I ended up in the er one night with bp of 220 over 120 because of what

I had been told was an ear infection. Turns out it was an infected

tooth. But as soon as they dealt with the pain, my bp went down.

Until then they were giving me nitro to protect my heart. The body is

an amazing instrument in how it works together for both good and bad.

I don't think I have mentioned here that I have my 14th grandson, a

boy, , born Tuesday 9 1/2 weeks early. My daughter was

scared, I was scared. They tried to stop the labor, but couldn't. He

was born at 4 lbs 3 oz and 18 in long. He is off the ventilator, but

still having trouble with the feeding tube, or maybe it is his

digestive system since eating through it makes him constipated. So,

at 3 days old, he got his first suppository. What a way to start

life. lol. All vitals have been normal even though he was born with

the cord wrapped around his neck twice. Must not have been tight. If

you are on facebook, you can see a picture of him as of last night

being held by his daddy who said he was bawling all the time he was

holding him. My daughter couldn't talk last night because she had

beed crying all day too. At least they are crying together. Wish I

could fly up there and give him a hug. Jan

> I agree with this post. I had always shied away from any kind of pill, and all

> medicines. I did not know that if left untreated, pain can become like a

leaking

> faucet, and become a permanent signal. This is from damage to the dorsal horn,

> and basal ganglia in the spinal cord, which is the pathway to our brains for

> pain signals. It is very very important for a patient to become informed on

this

> topic, not only for themselves, but also for thier loved ones. Virtually every

> one will need medicare care, and this ball can be dropped, leaving a suffering

> family member in pain. My brother had surgery for a torn ACL, and they hooked

> him to a pain pump after surgery, and later in the night around 2 am, he was

> writhing in pain, drenched with sweat, and the nurse noticed his heart rate

> elevated, and him running a fever, and he couldn't stop squirming, she checked

> the machine with dispenses the pain medicine, and found that he had not

received

> one single dose!! The vial was FULL. They gave him a bolus dose of morphine

and

> got his pain pump working, and he was much much better.

> I read the handout for pain management at the hepatologists office today, and

> found that our hospital is at least trying to dispel major myths about pain

> management. The pamphlet clears up misconceptions about pain medicine, and I

> hope that people in this group can find similar reading at their hospitals.

> Love, Bobby

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: livercirrhosissupport

> Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 3:43:00 PM

> Subject: Re: what are the symptoms

>

> A liver biopsy will determine at what stage the cirrhosis is at. If caught in

> time it can be managed better. Follow your doctors advise..... no drinking and

> eat lots of fruits and veggies. Lots of water is a must and try to eat

vegetable

> fats not animal fats because you have a fatty liver already. Regular blood

tests

> can also determine, although not as accurately, how your liver is functioning.

> The liver acts like a filter for our bodies. If this 'filter' is blocked as in

> cirrhosis caused by a fatty liver, it causes all sorts of problems over time.

> Pain unfortunately is a part of that problem. My mother had terrible pain in

her

> back, abdomin and side.Multiple trips to the ER never pin pointed exactly why

> this pain was happening other than it was related to the liver problems. She

had

> a fatty liver as well as cirrhosis from being an alcoholic.It was a very

> frustrating experience for her and us. The pain would come and go, move up and

> down and around her belly, be worse some days than others and then just

> disappear. A pain management doctor is a must if you find out in the future

that

> the cirrhosis has advanced to more than 3/4 of the liver.I wish now that we

had

> gone to a pain management doctor because the ER doctors and her regular MD did

> not manage this properly. That would be my advise to you. Don't know much

about

> the Pancreas, other than its what regulates our sugar. If you are a diabetic,

> normally you have pancreatic problems. Anyhow, hope you get proper care and

pain

> management and that you have some family to watch over you. Liver disease can

be

> very complicated.

>

>>

>> Hey just wandering

>> I was diagnose with (nash) I now have cirrosis I just saw the hepatologist

for

>>the first time on Monday. He order several blood test

>> i have had pain in my abdomin for several weeks...had all kind of scans

>> MRI s...ect....all test shows nothing there to cause the discomfort...my

liver

>>is not inflamed.....so whats causing the pain?

>> How do they monitor the cirrosis...can this cause problem with my pancreas??

I

>>feel fine other than the discomfort in my side...can anyone laberate on

>>this....thanks for your feedback!

>>

>

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> Don't pick lemons.

> See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.

> http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html

>

February 11, 2011

Jan

Congradulations......My little precious granddaughter, Hally, weighed 2 lbs 3

oz. She is prefect and will be two years old in June.

My granddaughter, Delanie, who is 10 years old has been really

sick......attoimune hepititus....and we will find out at the end of March if she

needs a liver transplant.

Lyncia

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To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 6:38:33 PM

Subject: Re: Re: what are the symptoms