Re: Need help with basic shampoo formulation

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I haven't used sodium lauryl sulfoacetate as the sole surfactant in a shampoo

formula. I think it works best when used as secondary surfactant as a foam

booster. But, I suspect the Crothix (used at 5%) is the culprit. I normally

used it at 1-2%.

http://www.ctmw.com/articles/Stepan/5.htm Stepan, the manufacture says this

about Sodium Lauryl Sulfoacetate in shampoos: " Shampoos ~ Sodium lauryl

sulfoacetate is used as an ingredient in liquid, cream and paste shampoos to

produce a rich lather and copious amounts of foam. The sulfoacetate can be used

as a primary or a secondary surfactant. When used as a secondary surfactant,

sodium lauryl sulfoacetate boosts foam volume tremendously. "

Here's an example of a shampoo formula from Stephan:

Product Category: SHAMPOO

Formulation Name: Clear Gel Shampoo (#728)

Company: Stepan Company

Description: Mild gel shampoo with good tactie properties.

PhaseINCI (CTFA) Name/Chemical NameTrade Name/Supplier Name* %

1Sodium Laureth Sulfate STEOL® CS-330

15.0

Sodium Lauryl Sulfoacetate LATHANOL® LAL Powder

12.0

Cocamidopropyl BetaineAMPHOSOL® CA

4.0

D.I. Water

q.s. 100.0

2Cocamide MEANINOL® CMP

1.5

Hydrolyzed Collagen

1.0

3Sodium Chloride

q.s.

Citric Acid (50%)

q.s.

Fragrance, Dye & Preservative

q.s.

* STEPAN Company

Procedure: Prepare Phase 1 by adding the first three ingredients to water and

mixing well. Heat to 50°C with continuous mixing until solution clears. Add the

Phase 2 Cocamide MEA and continue to mix as you let the solution come to room

temperature. Blend in the hydrolyzed collagen. Begin Phase 3 by adjusting the pH

to 6.0-6.5 with the citric acid. Add fragrance, dye and preservative, if

desired. Add sodium chloride to adjust viscosity.

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I'm not sure why you are using so much emollient/fats in the formula? I wouldn't

think this would create much foam, with so much oil in the formula. I would

suggest decreasing your oils to a maximum of 1-2% of the total formula, and

leave out the cetearyl alcohol, and most of the Polysorbate 80. Ceteryl alcohol

is something that one would more commonly see in a conditioner, not a shampoo.

HTH,

Pam

> HI all,

> I'm having trouble with a shampoo formulation I've got. It's come out way

too thick but I'm unsure of whether or not I need to reduce the poly 8 or the

crothix. It came out like a thick creme instead of a liquid shampoo. Has anyone

got any suggestions? I want to be able to use this as base recipe so that I can

switch out the herbs for different purposes. Here is the formulation. I am a

beginner when it comes to shampoos so excuse me if this recipe looks weird. If

anyone has another recipe that would work better please feel free to let me

know! Thanks!

> Blessings

>

Stone

>

> Glycerin 2.0%

> Lathonal 15.0%

> Herbal water 65.0%

> Jojoba Oil 2.0%

> Wheatgerm Oil 1.5%

> Polysorbate 80 3.0%

> Cetearyl Alcohol 5.0%

> Crothix 5.0%

> Germall 0.3%

> Essential Oil 1.0%

>

>

> jennamoondancer@...

[Guest guest]

Thanks my understanding of shampoo creation is rather limited since I've mostly

specialized in herbs, and skin treatments. I've just lately started trying out

shampoos and conditioners. I had trouble finding any info on it outside of

adding your herbals to a Castile base which defeated the point of crafting your

own shampoo. Thanks again!

jennamoondancer@...

----- Original Message -----

From: Pam Ingle

Hi ,

I haven't used sodium lauryl sulfoacetate as the sole surfactant in a shampoo

formula. I think it works best when used as secondary surfactant as a foam

booster. But, I suspect the Crothix (used at 5%) is the culprit. I normally

used it at 1-2%.