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In a message dated 8/10/01 7:08:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, far2left@...

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> I am

> getting increasingly concerned about what my next HbA1C test will

> show.

>

>

Hi and welcome to the group. You will get a lot of good advice from this

group of people.

I do have a formula for calculating your HbA1C. It would not be 100%, but it

would give you an idea of what it will be based on your testing. Let me know

if you would like for me to send this to you.

I know a lot of people rely on natural remedies, vitamins, etc. However, you

may want to ask your pharmacist or doctor if any of these

remedies/vitamins/minerals can cause an interaction with your other

medications. I would suggest that you keep a journal from now until your

doctor's visit of everything you eat, the amount and your BG reading 2 hrs

after each meal.

Please let us know what the doctor recommends. I am interested.

Eunice

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I have had success in lowering my bsl by drinking pure carrot juice.

Doesn't taste all that great but it lowers it quickly and safely.

I also try to take flaxseed oil table and ginsing -- have been

negligent in this lately and no change so it must not be doing

much overall.

Ann

> Hello all--

>

> As a new subscriber, I've been reading the recent archives and

thank

> you for all the helpful information and caring support that is

evident

> throughout.

>

> My Dx diabetes2 was Christmas eve 1998 but I had been " glucose

> intolerant " for many years prior and had been given the same basic

> diet advice but no BG testing. I did great for about 15 months on

> diet alone. Then the need for medication for other illnesses seems

to

> have caused a dramatic change in my body's response to my BG.

>

> Last summer my doc added Glucophage when I told him I was doing all

> that I could on my own. I didn't get along well with that med, so

he

> switched me to Amaryl. Over the past year I have had to build up

to 2

> mg. twice a day, lunchtime and bedtime. Even with this, my BG is

over

> 200 much of the time, particularly early morning. I've recently

spent

> time with people who have witnessed my food intake over 3-4 day

> periods and they cannot believe it. My diet it very good almost

all

> the time.

>

> I can't drop the other meds I'm taking, at least not now, but I am

> getting increasingly concerned about what my next HbA1C test will

> show.

>

> Does anyone have advice about other diabetes meds that might be

added.

> I am already a walking pharmacy kit and try to rely on natural

> remedies, vitamins and minerals whenever I can, so I hate to take

more

> drugs, but I will do whatever needs doing. I have a month to

collect

> my data before my next doc appt. I welcome inpu

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I have had success in lowering my bsl by drinking pure carrot juice.

Doesn't taste all that great but it lowers it quickly and safely.

I also try to take flaxseed oil table and ginsing -- have been

negligent in this lately and no change so it must not be doing

much overall.

Ann

> Hello all--

>

> As a new subscriber, I've been reading the recent archives and

thank

> you for all the helpful information and caring support that is

evident

> throughout.

>

> My Dx diabetes2 was Christmas eve 1998 but I had been " glucose

> intolerant " for many years prior and had been given the same basic

> diet advice but no BG testing. I did great for about 15 months on

> diet alone. Then the need for medication for other illnesses seems

to

> have caused a dramatic change in my body's response to my BG.

>

> Last summer my doc added Glucophage when I told him I was doing all

> that I could on my own. I didn't get along well with that med, so

he

> switched me to Amaryl. Over the past year I have had to build up

to 2

> mg. twice a day, lunchtime and bedtime. Even with this, my BG is

over

> 200 much of the time, particularly early morning. I've recently

spent

> time with people who have witnessed my food intake over 3-4 day

> periods and they cannot believe it. My diet it very good almost

all

> the time.

>

> I can't drop the other meds I'm taking, at least not now, but I am

> getting increasingly concerned about what my next HbA1C test will

> show.

>

> Does anyone have advice about other diabetes meds that might be

added.

> I am already a walking pharmacy kit and try to rely on natural

> remedies, vitamins and minerals whenever I can, so I hate to take

more

> drugs, but I will do whatever needs doing. I have a month to

collect

> my data before my next doc appt. I welcome inpu

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Just a suggestion, but I was taking Avandia along with Glucophage. My BG came

under control, way under control, I was getting real low readings like 50-

100. But this took quite awhile. I had to be taken off of it, but now my BG

for the last three months was 109. One theory is that it jump started my

liver into using my insulin correctly. It did have one side effect...I

swelled something terrible. It was never related to the drug. Only when I

came off did my swelling come down. Now this is a side effect, not one that

happens to EVERYONE. Check with your doc and see what he has to say.

Twofeetofpain <Carol>

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Just a suggestion, but I was taking Avandia along with Glucophage. My BG came

under control, way under control, I was getting real low readings like 50-

100. But this took quite awhile. I had to be taken off of it, but now my BG

for the last three months was 109. One theory is that it jump started my

liver into using my insulin correctly. It did have one side effect...I

swelled something terrible. It was never related to the drug. Only when I

came off did my swelling come down. Now this is a side effect, not one that

happens to EVERYONE. Check with your doc and see what he has to say.

Twofeetofpain <Carol>

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I too was drinking carrot juice, but I thought is tasted pretty good. I used

organic only and this really made a big difference in the taste, quite yummy

actually. The regular carrots taste so watery. One more thing, be careful,

carrots are complex carbohydrates, and have a very high sugar content. This

did not bother my BG, but everyone's system is different.

Email me if you like, I extend to invitation to all.

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I too was drinking carrot juice, but I thought is tasted pretty good. I used

organic only and this really made a big difference in the taste, quite yummy

actually. The regular carrots taste so watery. One more thing, be careful,

carrots are complex carbohydrates, and have a very high sugar content. This

did not bother my BG, but everyone's system is different.

Email me if you like, I extend to invitation to all.

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I myself bought a juicer, expensive but well worth the investment. Don't but

buy one of those cheap ones, such as Jr. juice. It will burn out after about

6 months. I paid approx. $200.00 for mine, but it is well worth it. I went

on the Internet and typed in juicers. Gave me pages of different brands and

prices and what to look for.

GOOD LUCK!

Twofeetofpain <Carol>

Oh, one more thing, they do sell the canned variety of carrot juice, but ugh,

the taste has something to be desired. Of course everyone's taste is

different.

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I myself bought a juicer, expensive but well worth the investment. Don't but

buy one of those cheap ones, such as Jr. juice. It will burn out after about

6 months. I paid approx. $200.00 for mine, but it is well worth it. I went

on the Internet and typed in juicers. Gave me pages of different brands and

prices and what to look for.

GOOD LUCK!

Twofeetofpain <Carol>

Oh, one more thing, they do sell the canned variety of carrot juice, but ugh,

the taste has something to be desired. Of course everyone's taste is

different.

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<<<<I have had success in lowering my bsl by drinking pure carrot juice.>>>>>

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Wow! If I did that my BG level would go through the roof. Carrot juice is

practically pure sugar. I would think it would be excellent for someone who's

lvels were too low and needed a quick fix, sort of like OJ.

in Seattle...T2

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In a message dated 8/10/01 5:49:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ty2diab@...

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> If I did that my BG level would go through the roof. Carrot juice is

>

It still amazes me what some people can eat and others cannot. I guess this

is the reason that doctors/educators have a hard time explaining what needs

to be done to control diabetes. They can make suggestions/recommendations

but since each individual is different, each person has to learn by trial and

error.

Eunice

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In a message dated 8/10/01 5:49:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ty2diab@...

writes:

> If I did that my BG level would go through the roof. Carrot juice is

>

It still amazes me what some people can eat and others cannot. I guess this

is the reason that doctors/educators have a hard time explaining what needs

to be done to control diabetes. They can make suggestions/recommendations

but since each individual is different, each person has to learn by trial and

error.

Eunice

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In a message dated 8/11/01 7:10:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, far2left@...

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> Eunice, I was about to ask you for your forumula when I saw you posted

> it shortly after this.

Hi Rennie,

Since I started using this formula, I'll find myself doing it on a weekly

basis. I've even done in on a daily basis when my BG's have been a little

high. I find it very interesting.

Wish we would get some rain. It is very hot and muggy here in Central

Virginia. Rain is predicted for today. I'm praying that it will happen, but

not serious storms.

Eunice

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In a message dated 8/11/01 7:10:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, far2left@...

writes:

> Eunice, I was about to ask you for your forumula when I saw you posted

> it shortly after this.

Hi Rennie,

Since I started using this formula, I'll find myself doing it on a weekly

basis. I've even done in on a daily basis when my BG's have been a little

high. I find it very interesting.

Wish we would get some rain. It is very hot and muggy here in Central

Virginia. Rain is predicted for today. I'm praying that it will happen, but

not serious storms.

Eunice

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In a message dated 8/11/01 9:12:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

vmmasell@... writes:

> In any grocery store.

Thanks Ann. Don't think I have seen it in the grocery store, but

haven't looked. Now I will. I was thinking it was a juice you would get

from a health food store.

I'll try it just to see what it does to my BG's. That is the only way we

learn what we can and cannot eat or drink.

Eunice

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In any grocery store. We have Thriftway here (a Winn-Dixie owned

enterprise) and Kroger.

Ann

> In a message dated 8/10/01 10:32:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> vmmasell@c... writes:

>

>

> >

>

> Hi Ann,

>

> Where do you buy the carrot juice?

>

> Thanks

> Eunice

>

>

>

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In any grocery store. We have Thriftway here (a Winn-Dixie owned

enterprise) and Kroger.

Ann

> In a message dated 8/10/01 10:32:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> vmmasell@c... writes:

>

>

> >

>

> Hi Ann,

>

> Where do you buy the carrot juice?

>

> Thanks

> Eunice

>

>

>

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I think it is in how much you eat as well. I only drink about 3 oz

of it at a time and it dramatically lowers mine -- usually 20 points

or more. I found out about this when doing an internet search on

" lowering blood sugar " it was recommended by a Eastern Doctor.

Ann

> In a message dated 8/10/01 5:49:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

ty2diab@a...

> writes:

>

>

> > If I did that my BG level would go through the roof. Carrot juice

is

> >

>

> It still amazes me what some people can eat and others cannot. I

guess this

> is the reason that doctors/educators have a hard time explaining

what needs

> to be done to control diabetes. They can make

suggestions/recommendations

> but since each individual is different, each person has to learn by

trial and

> error.

>

> Eunice

>

>

>

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