Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 I have read your posts in the past surrounding this issues and each time have kept relatively silent but your outspoken and attacking nature towards animal owners is repulsive to me. Your choice of words and the mannerism in which you take is poor to say the least. I am at a loss as to why you continually choose to attack animal owners again and again on this forum. I also do not see how what you are saying has any benefit to the group as a whole when all you appear to be doing is expressing your hatred towards animal owners and the pets themselves. Repeatedly.Why can't you attack less with your animal posts. Fine you don't like pet owners, I get that, but stop with the misplaced loved and guilt trip rubbish. Its pointless, tactless and aggravating. Maybe you should consider putting in the same amount of energy into reducing your negativity as you do harboring on it. You might have an easier life, and dare I say it, less reaction to your hated pets, owners and the 4s triggers that come with it.I have written to you privately asking you to be a little more tactful in a polite way, for the sake of other pet owners and myself, but your continued persistence with needless aggression has managed to really aggravate me.Was this your intention? Do you not read your posts before you send them? Do you not think of the effects your words will have on others? Or do you just not care.If its the latter, I'll be setting up a automatic rule on outlook to send all of your emails to the trash bin because I've had it with your pointless outspoken attacks and I sure as hell don't need any more negativity in my life. This bloodly condition is our problem, not anyone else's, let alone animals which don't understand our anguish. The sooner we take control of our lives and realise that, the sooner we can rule our lives, not have 4s rule us. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on 3Sender: Soundsensitivity Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:00:51 -0400To: <Soundsensitivity >ReplyTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Re: In response to Sky's remark about gettingrid of my cat. I LOVE animals---which is why going on African Safari is something that I will treasure for the rest of my life. But, to be in nature, in wild animals' own turf, is so much different that " baby-sitting " a pet for the rest of your life, taking care of their excrement, having to leave your friends alone because you have to get back to your pet before they make a mess on your floor, etc.Luckily, it is only the few folks on the planet who have a lot of disposable income and who have a misguided notion of where to put their love and attention that take care of these proliferating animals. The rest of us want to make sure there a less babies out there found in garbage bags in the dumpster and that our friends are not suffering from lack of attention. Loving wild animals and loving animals that are bred to reproduce and be sold " for someone to have something to do and something to love " is in my opinion very sick indeed. And, since my worst trigger is dogs barking (and I do hear many all around me almost all the time that I sit in my closed house or work in my yard), you can perhaps understand why it does not make sense to me to have people take in " pets " that bother their own species: ie. other humans like myself and the next neighbor. So many people out there hate hearing what I am forced to hear but are not outspoken about it, choosing to hide their discomfort for the sake of " not rocking the boat " . You sound like my husband when you say your life is richer for having them. He was never close to an animal until he met me. I saw him cry for the first time when our dear Zoe died. She was more human than cat. That was 3 years ago and we still cry over her loss. She blessed our lives and made us better for knowing her. > >> > I'm sure others are wondering why I would keep a cat that causes me such pain. Here's the answer:> > > > 1. She has a sister. How can I separate them?> > 2. She cries because she wants outside. She was an outdoor cat at one time. It's nature calling out to her. Not her fault.> > 3. They have been with us since 2004. It's only in the last few years that I became super-sensitive to her voice. > > 4. Her sister is my husbands favorite cat.> > > > I do take her outside on a harness and 25 foot leash and sit with her in the backyard every chance I get. I cannot let her stay out by herself. There are large dogs in my neighborhood. One night they tore a cat to pieces next door.> > > > In the last week I have been using a spray bottle with water to discourage her cries. I hate to do it. It seems to be working and she still loves me.> > > > I would appreciate not being criticized for my life decisions. I will return the courtesy.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Well said and thank you . I have read your posts in the past surrounding this issues and each time have kept relatively silent but your outspoken and attacking nature towards animal owners is repulsive to me. Your choice of words and the mannerism in which you take is poor to say the least. I am at a loss as to why you continually choose to attack animal owners again and again on this forum. I also do not see how what you are saying has any benefit to the group as a whole when all you appear to be doing is expressing your hatred towards animal owners and the pets themselves. Repeatedly. Why can't you attack less with your animal posts. Fine you don't like pet owners, I get that, but stop with the misplaced loved and guilt trip rubbish. Its pointless, tactless and aggravating. Maybe you should consider putting in the same amount of energy into reducing your negativity as you do harboring on it. You might have an easier life, and dare I say it, less reaction to your hated pets, owners and the 4s triggers that come with it. I have written to you privately asking you to be a little more tactful in a polite way, for the sake of other pet owners and myself, but your continued persistence with needless aggression has managed to really aggravate me. Was this your intention? Do you not read your posts before you send them? Do you not think of the effects your words will have on others? Or do you just not care.If its the latter, I'll be setting up a automatic rule on outlook to send all of your emails to the trash bin because I've had it with your pointless outspoken attacks and I sure as hell don't need any more negativity in my life. This bloodly condition is our problem, not anyone else's, let alone animals which don't understand our anguish. The sooner we take control of our lives and realise that, the sooner we can rule our lives, not have 4s rule us. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on 3 Sender: Soundsensitivity Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:00:51 -0400To: <Soundsensitivity >ReplyTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Re: In response to Sky's remark about getting rid of my cat. I LOVE animals---which is why going on African Safari is something that I will treasure for the rest of my life. But, to be in nature, in wild animals' own turf, is so much different that " baby-sitting " a pet for the rest of your life, taking care of their excrement, having to leave your friends alone because you have to get back to your pet before they make a mess on your floor, etc. Luckily, it is only the few folks on the planet who have a lot of disposable income and who have a misguided notion of where to put their love and attention that take care of these proliferating animals. The rest of us want to make sure there a less babies out there found in garbage bags in the dumpster and that our friends are not suffering from lack of attention. Loving wild animals and loving animals that are bred to reproduce and be sold " for someone to have something to do and something to love " is in my opinion very sick indeed. And, since my worst trigger is dogs barking (and I do hear many all around me almost all the time that I sit in my closed house or work in my yard), you can perhaps understand why it does not make sense to me to have people take in " pets " that bother their own species: ie. other humans like myself and the next neighbor. So many people out there hate hearing what I am forced to hear but are not outspoken about it, choosing to hide their discomfort for the sake of " not rocking the boat " . You sound like my husband when you say your life is richer for having them. He was never close to an animal until he met me. I saw him cry for the first time when our dear Zoe died. She was more human than cat. That was 3 years ago and we still cry over her loss. She blessed our lives and made us better for knowing her. > > > > I'm sure others are wondering why I would keep a cat that causes me such pain. Here's the answer: > > > > 1. She has a sister. How can I separate them? > > 2. She cries because she wants outside. She was an outdoor cat at one time. It's nature calling out to her. Not her fault. > > 3. They have been with us since 2004. It's only in the last few years that I became super-sensitive to her voice. > > 4. Her sister is my husbands favorite cat. > > > > I do take her outside on a harness and 25 foot leash and sit with her in the backyard every chance I get. I cannot let her stay out by herself. There are large dogs in my neighborhood. One night they tore a cat to pieces next door. > > > > In the last week I have been using a spray bottle with water to discourage her cries. I hate to do it. It seems to be working and she still loves me. > > > > I would appreciate not being criticized for my life decisions. I will return the courtesy. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Amen--I agree.And to imply that those of us with pets don't care about the babies being thrown away our or friends goes way beyond being ignorant... do you really think that people who have pets don't care about others? I'm beginning to think that you must have grown up in a house full of pets and gotten no love from your parents... otherwise I do not understand where your messed up point of view comes from. But I'm with --pretty soon all your e-mails will be going straight to the trash. It isn't helping anyone. --------------------------------------------------------- ♥ " Hope is more than a word; it's a state of being. It's a firm belief God will come through. Life brings rain... hope turns every drop into the power to bloom like never before. " -Holley Gerth ♥ http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/sarahmae  I have read your posts in the past surrounding this issues and each time have kept relatively silent but your outspoken and attacking nature towards animal owners is repulsive to me. Your choice of words and the mannerism in which you take is poor to say the least. I am at a loss as to why you continually choose to attack animal owners again and again on this forum. I also do not see how what you are saying has any benefit to the group as a whole when all you appear to be doing is expressing your hatred towards animal owners and the pets themselves. Repeatedly. Why can't you attack less with your animal posts. Fine you don't like pet owners, I get that, but stop with the misplaced loved and guilt trip rubbish. Its pointless, tactless and aggravating. Maybe you should consider putting in the same amount of energy into reducing your negativity as you do harboring on it. You might have an easier life, and dare I say it, less reaction to your hated pets, owners and the 4s triggers that come with it. I have written to you privately asking you to be a little more tactful in a polite way, for the sake of other pet owners and myself, but your continued persistence with needless aggression has managed to really aggravate me. Was this your intention? Do you not read your posts before you send them? Do you not think of the effects your words will have on others? Or do you just not care.If its the latter, I'll be setting up a automatic rule on outlook to send all of your emails to the trash bin because I've had it with your pointless outspoken attacks and I sure as hell don't need any more negativity in my life. This bloodly condition is our problem, not anyone else's, let alone animals which don't understand our anguish. The sooner we take control of our lives and realise that, the sooner we can rule our lives, not have 4s rule us. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on 3 Sender: Soundsensitivity Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:00:51 -0400To: <Soundsensitivity >ReplyTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Re: In response to Sky's remark about getting rid of my cat.  I LOVE animals---which is why going on African Safari is something that I will treasure for the rest of my life.  But, to be in nature, in wild animals' own turf, is so much different that " baby-sitting " a pet for the rest of your life, taking care of their excrement, having to leave your friends alone because you have to get back to your pet before they make a mess on your floor, etc. Luckily, it is only the few folks on the planet who have a lot of disposable income and who have a misguided notion of where to put their love and attention that take care of these proliferating animals.  The rest of us want to make sure there a less babies out there found in garbage bags in the dumpster and that our friends are not suffering from lack of attention.  Loving wild animals and loving animals that are bred to reproduce and be sold " for someone to have something to do and something to love " is in my opinion very sick indeed.  And, since my worst trigger is dogs barking (and I do hear many all around me almost all the time that  I sit in my closed house or work in my yard), you can perhaps understand why it does not make sense to me to have people take in " pets " that bother their own species:  ie. other humans like myself and the next neighbor.  So many people out there hate hearing what I am forced to hear but are not outspoken about it, choosing to hide their discomfort for the sake of " not rocking the boat " .   You sound like my husband when you say your life is richer for having them. He was never close to an animal until he met me. I saw him cry for the first time when our dear Zoe died. She was more human than cat. That was 3 years ago and we still cry over her loss. She blessed our lives and made us better for knowing her. > > > > I'm sure others are wondering why I would keep a cat that causes me such pain. Here's the answer: > > > > 1. She has a sister. How can I separate them? > > 2. She cries because she wants outside. She was an outdoor cat at one time. It's nature calling out to her. Not her fault. > > 3. They have been with us since 2004. It's only in the last few years that I became super-sensitive to her voice. > > 4. Her sister is my husbands favorite cat. > > > > I do take her outside on a harness and 25 foot leash and sit with her in the backyard every chance I get. I cannot let her stay out by herself. There are large dogs in my neighborhood. One night they tore a cat to pieces next door. > > > > In the last week I have been using a spray bottle with water to discourage her cries. I hate to do it. It seems to be working and she still loves me. > > > > I would appreciate not being criticized for my life decisions. I will return the courtesy. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I also want to thank you ! I normally don't post very much but I have to say that I find these recent posts of Skye's really rude and unfeeling. My 15 year old son suffers from soundsensitivity and when it all gets to be too much for him, he can get the comfort, love, solace and acceptance that he needs from his animals. I am proud that my son is a loving, caring human being who shows kindness and compassion animals and people. I can not find any fault in someone who is willing to sacrifice of themselves for the well being of another creature, be it pet or human. If the sound of a baby crying was a trigger for Skye would she have the same ignorant attitude towards parents? I for one would appreciate not having to deal with her posts any longer. To: Soundsensitivity From: stacy.c.anderson@...Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 02:10:18 +0100Subject: Re: Re: In response to Sky's remark about gettingrid of my cat. Well said and thank you . I have read your posts in the past surrounding this issues and each time have kept relatively silent but your outspoken and attacking nature towards animal owners is repulsive to me. Your choice of words and the mannerism in which you take is poor to say the least. I am at a loss as to why you continually choose to attack animal owners again and again on this forum. I also do not see how what you are saying has any benefit to the group as a whole when all you appear to be doing is expressing your hatred towards animal owners and the pets themselves. Repeatedly.Why can't you attack less with your animal posts. Fine you don't like pet owners, I get that, but stop with the misplaced loved and guilt trip rubbish. Its pointless, tactless and aggravating. Maybe you should consider putting in the same amount of energy into reducing your negativity as you do harboring on it. You might have an easier life, and dare I say it, less reaction to your hated pets, owners and the 4s triggers that come with it.I have written to you privately asking you to be a little more tactful in a polite way, for the sake of other pet owners and myself, but your continued persistence with needless aggression has managed to really aggravate me.Was this your intention? Do you not read your posts before you send them? Do you not think of the effects your words will have on others? Or do you just not care.If its the latter, I'll be setting up a automatic rule on outlook to send all of your emails to the trash bin because I've had it with your pointless outspoken attacks and I sure as hell don't need any more negativity in my life. This bloodly condition is our problem, not anyone else's, let alone animals which don't understand our anguish. The sooner we take control of our lives and realise that, the sooner we can rule our lives, not have 4s rule us. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on 3 Sender: Soundsensitivity Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:00:51 -0400 To: <Soundsensitivity > ReplyTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Re: In response to Sky's remark about getting rid of my cat. I LOVE animals---which is why going on African Safari is something that I will treasure for the rest of my life. But, to be in nature, in wild animals' own turf, is so much different that "baby-sitting" a pet for the rest of your life, taking care of their excrement, having to leave your friends alone because you have to get back to your pet before they make a mess on your floor, etc. Luckily, it is only the few folks on the planet who have a lot of disposable income and who have a misguided notion of where to put their love and attention that take care of these proliferating animals. The rest of us want to make sure there a less babies out there found in garbage bags in the dumpster and that our friends are not suffering from lack of attention. Loving wild animals and loving animals that are bred to reproduce and be sold "for someone to have something to do and something to love" is in my opinion very sick indeed. And, since my worst trigger is dogs barking (and I do hear many all around me almost all the time that I sit in my closed house or work in my yard), you can perhaps understand why it does not make sense to me to have people take in "pets" that bother their own species: ie. other humans like myself and the next neighbor. So many people out there hate hearing what I am forced to hear but are not outspoken about it, choosing to hide their discomfort for the sake of "not rocking the boat". You sound like my husband when you say your life is richer for having them. He was never close to an animal until he met me. I saw him cry for the first time when our dear Zoe died. She was more human than cat. That was 3 years ago and we still cry over her loss. She blessed our lives and made us better for knowing her. > >> > I'm sure others are wondering why I would keep a cat that causes me such pain. Here's the answer:> > > > 1. She has a sister. How can I separate them?> > 2. She cries because she wants outside. She was an outdoor cat at one time. It's nature calling out to her. Not her fault.> > 3. They have been with us since 2004. It's only in the last few years that I became super-sensitive to her voice. > > 4. Her sister is my husbands favorite cat.> > > > I do take her outside on a harness and 25 foot leash and sit with her in the backyard every chance I get. I cannot let her stay out by herself. There are large dogs in my neighborhood. One night they tore a cat to pieces next door.> > > > In the last week I have been using a spray bottle with water to discourage her cries. I hate to do it. It seems to be working and she still loves me.> > > > I would appreciate not being criticized for my life decisions. I will return the courtesy.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Well said!Sent from my iPad I have read your posts in the past surrounding this issues and each time have kept relatively silent but your outspoken and attacking nature towards animal owners is repulsive to me. Your choice of words and the mannerism in which you take is poor to say the least. I am at a loss as to why you continually choose to attack animal owners again and again on this forum. I also do not see how what you are saying has any benefit to the group as a whole when all you appear to be doing is expressing your hatred towards animal owners and the pets themselves. Repeatedly.Why can't you attack less with your animal posts. Fine you don't like pet owners, I get that, but stop with the misplaced loved and guilt trip rubbish. Its pointless, tactless and aggravating. Maybe you should consider putting in the same amount of energy into reducing your negativity as you do harboring on it. You might have an easier life, and dare I say it, less reaction to your hated pets, owners and the 4s triggers that come with it.I have written to you privately asking you to be a little more tactful in a polite way, for the sake of other pet owners and myself, but your continued persistence with needless aggression has managed to really aggravate me.Was this your intention? Do you not read your posts before you send them? Do you not think of the effects your words will have on others? Or do you just not care.If its the latter, I'll be setting up a automatic rule on outlook to send all of your emails to the trash bin because I've had it with your pointless outspoken attacks and I sure as hell don't need any more negativity in my life. This bloodly condition is our problem, not anyone else's, let alone animals which don't understand our anguish. The sooner we take control of our lives and realise that, the sooner we can rule our lives, not have 4s rule us. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on 3 Sender: Soundsensitivity Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:00:51 -0400To: <Soundsensitivity >ReplyTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Re: In response to Sky's remark about getting rid of my cat. I LOVE animals---which is why going on African Safari is something that I will treasure for the rest of my life. But, to be in nature, in wild animals' own turf, is so much different that "baby-sitting" a pet for the rest of your life, taking care of their excrement, having to leave your friends alone because you have to get back to your pet before they make a mess on your floor, etc. Luckily, it is only the few folks on the planet who have a lot of disposable income and who have a misguided notion of where to put their love and attention that take care of these proliferating animals. The rest of us want to make sure there a less babies out there found in garbage bags in the dumpster and that our friends are not suffering from lack of attention. Loving wild animals and loving animals that are bred to reproduce and be sold "for someone to have something to do and something to love" is in my opinion very sick indeed. And, since my worst trigger is dogs barking (and I do hear many all around me almost all the time that I sit in my closed house or work in my yard), you can perhaps understand why it does not make sense to me to have people take in "pets" that bother their own species: ie. other humans like myself and the next neighbor. So many people out there hate hearing what I am forced to hear but are not outspoken about it, choosing to hide their discomfort for the sake of "not rocking the boat". You sound like my husband when you say your life is richer for having them. He was never close to an animal until he met me. I saw him cry for the first time when our dear Zoe died. She was more human than cat. That was 3 years ago and we still cry over her loss. She blessed our lives and made us better for knowing her. > > > > I'm sure others are wondering why I would keep a cat that causes me such pain. Here's the answer: > > > > 1. She has a sister. How can I separate them? > > 2. She cries because she wants outside. She was an outdoor cat at one time. It's nature calling out to her. Not her fault. > > 3. They have been with us since 2004. It's only in the last few years that I became super-sensitive to her voice. > > 4. Her sister is my husbands favorite cat. > > > > I do take her outside on a harness and 25 foot leash and sit with her in the backyard every chance I get. I cannot let her stay out by herself. There are large dogs in my neighborhood. One night they tore a cat to pieces next door. > > > > In the last week I have been using a spray bottle with water to discourage her cries. I hate to do it. It seems to be working and she still loves me. > > > > I would appreciate not being criticized for my life decisions. I will return the courtesy. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 I feel very lucky to know that hearing animals whine does not bother me. The only noise is my dad smacking her lips and licking her paws. And my cat cleaning her self. When these things happen i leave or tell them to leave. It does not bother them and they still love me. I personally love the noises of babies crying dogs barking and cats meowing and purring. It makes me feel comfortable and safe. To: "Soundsensitivity " <Soundsensitivity >Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 5:08:18 PMSubject: Re: Re: In response to Sky's remark about gettingrid of my cat. Well said!Sent from my iPad I have read your posts in the past surrounding this issues and each time have kept relatively silent but your outspoken and attacking nature towards animal owners is repulsive to me. Your choice of words and the mannerism in which you take is poor to say the least. I am at a loss as to why you continually choose to attack animal owners again and again on this forum. I also do not see how what you are saying has any benefit to the group as a whole when all you appear to be doing is expressing your hatred towards animal owners and the pets themselves. Repeatedly.Why can't you attack less with your animal posts. Fine you don't like pet owners, I get that, but stop with the misplaced loved and guilt trip rubbish. Its pointless, tactless and aggravating. Maybe you should consider putting in the same amount of energy into reducing your negativity as you do harboring on it. You might have an easier life, and dare I say it, less reaction to your hated pets, owners and the 4s triggers that come with it.I have written to you privately asking you to be a little more tactful in a polite way, for the sake of other pet owners and myself, but your continued persistence with needless aggression has managed to really aggravate me.Was this your intention? Do you not read your posts before you send them? Do you not think of the effects your words will have on others? Or do you just not care.If its the latter, I'll be setting up a automatic rule on outlook to send all of your emails to the trash bin because I've had it with your pointless outspoken attacks and I sure as hell don't need any more negativity in my life. This bloodly condition is our problem, not anyone else's, let alone animals which don't understand our anguish. The sooner we take control of our lives and realise that, the sooner we can rule our lives, not have 4s rule us. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on 3 Sender: Soundsensitivity Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:00:51 -0400 To: <Soundsensitivity > ReplyTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Re: In response to Sky's remark about getting rid of my cat. I LOVE animals---which is why going on African Safari is something that I will treasure for the rest of my life. But, to be in nature, in wild animals' own turf, is so much different that "baby-sitting" a pet for the rest of your life, taking care of their excrement, having to leave your friends alone because you have to get back to your pet before they make a mess on your floor, etc. Luckily, it is only the few folks on the planet who have a lot of disposable income and who have a misguided notion of where to put their love and attention that take care of these proliferating animals. The rest of us want to make sure there a less babies out there found in garbage bags in the dumpster and that our friends are not suffering from lack of attention. Loving wild animals and loving animals that are bred to reproduce and be sold "for someone to have something to do and something to love" is in my opinion very sick indeed. And, since my worst trigger is dogs barking (and I do hear many all around me almost all the time that I sit in my closed house or work in my yard), you can perhaps understand why it does not make sense to me to have people take in "pets" that bother their own species: ie. other humans like myself and the next neighbor. So many people out there hate hearing what I am forced to hear but are not outspoken about it, choosing to hide their discomfort for the sake of "not rocking the boat". You sound like my husband when you say your life is richer for having them. He was never close to an animal until he met me. I saw him cry for the first time when our dear Zoe died. She was more human than cat. That was 3 years ago and we still cry over her loss. She blessed our lives and made us better for knowing her. > >> > I'm sure others are wondering why I would keep a cat that causes me such pain. Here's the answer:> > > > 1. She has a sister. How can I separate them?> > 2. She cries because she wants outside. She was an outdoor cat at one time. It's nature calling out to her. Not her fault.> > 3. They have been with us since 2004. It's only in the last few years that I became super-sensitive to her voice. > > 4. Her sister is my husbands favorite cat.> > > > I do take her outside on a harness and 25 foot leash and sit with her in the backyard every chance I get. I cannot let her stay out by herself. There are large dogs in my neighborhood. One night they tore a cat to pieces next door.> > > > In the last week I have been using a spray bottle with water to discourage her cries. I hate to do it. It seems to be working and she still loves me.> > > > I would appreciate not being criticized for my life decisions. I will return the courtesy.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.