Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I read an email of Buttar to a friend posted somewhere on the web criticizing the case of the child's death and indicating that the method of release of EDTA in that case was IV push and not the regular slow release IV method. Just wanted to share that. Haleh Binstock wrote: > > Death of 5-year-old boy linked to controversial chelation therapy > http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06006/633541.stm > > Friday, January 06, 2006 > > By Kane, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette > > A 5-year-old autistic boy who went into cardiac arrest in his > doctor's office died as a result of the controversial chelation > therapy he was receiving as a treatment for his autism. > > The manner of death of Abubakar Tariq Nadama, of Monroeville, has > been listed as accidental while the investigation continues. > > The findings released by the County coroner's office don't > say whether the treatment itself is dangerous or the child died from > the way the treatment was administered. > > In layman's terms, the administration of ethylene diamine > tetra-acetate, commonly known as chelation, resulted in a lack of > oxygen to the brain as well as irreversible heart damage, said > Allegheny County Deputy Coroner Ed Strimlan. > > The Allegheny County morgue conducted the autopsy on the child at > the request of County Coroner Bill Young. > > " We determined there's a direct correlation between the EDTA and the > lack of oxygen to the brain and the heart muscle damage. It's a total > package, based on the autopsy, the histology and > the toxicology , " Mr. Strimlan said. > > The determination is sure to spark debate among parents, many of > whom support chelation as a safe and effective therapy for autism. > Others condemn the treatment as voodoo medicine. > > The autopsy report indicates the manner of death was accidental. The > other categories are natural, suicide and homicide. > > Mr. Young said he said he soon will meet with County District > Attorney Randa and Pennsylvania State Police Cpl. Ray Melder, of > the barracks, to discuss whether a coroner's inquest should be > scheduled. He said the determination that the death was accidental > could change, depending on what additional information is gleaned > from an inquest, if one is held. > > The Nigerian boy was brought to the United States from England last > spring by his mother, Marwa, specifically for chelation therapy. > Chelation is most often used in treatment of lead poisoning. > > During an Aug. 23 procedure in the Portersville, County, > office of Dr. Roy Eugene Kerry, Tariq went into cardiac arrest. > > He had been receiving an intravenous injection of EDTA, a synthetic > amino acid that is approved by the Food and Drug Administration to > treat heavy metal poisoning. EDTA latches onto heavy metals in the > bloodstream so they can be excreted in the urine. > > Within autism advocacy circles, chelation talk has been escalating > as proponents report improvements in autistic children who have > undergone the treatment. Though conventional medicine considers > autism a neurological disorder, others believe it is a treatable > condition linked to intolerable levels of metals in the bloodstream. > * > ** > > The material in this post is distributed without profit to those who have > expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for > research and educational purposes. For more information go to: > http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html > http://oregon.uoregon.edu/~csundt/documents.htm > <http://oregon.uoregon.edu/%7Ecsundt/documents.htm> > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this email for purposes > that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright > owner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 And how many children have died from an adverse reaction to immunizations???? Wonder why they don't report that??? Kathleen Coroner Rules Child's Death Directly Linked to Chelation > > Death of 5-year-old boy linked to controversial chelation therapy > http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06006/633541.stm > > Friday, January 06, 2006 > > By Kane, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette > > A 5-year-old autistic boy who went into cardiac arrest in his > doctor's office died as a result of the controversial chelation > therapy he was receiving as a treatment for his autism. > > The manner of death of Abubakar Tariq Nadama, of Monroeville, has > been listed as accidental while the investigation continues. > > The findings released by the County coroner's office don't > say whether the treatment itself is dangerous or the child died from > the way the treatment was administered. > > In layman's terms, the administration of ethylene diamine > tetra-acetate, commonly known as chelation, resulted in a lack of > oxygen to the brain as well as irreversible heart damage, said > Allegheny County Deputy Coroner Ed Strimlan. > > The Allegheny County morgue conducted the autopsy on the child at > the request of County Coroner Bill Young. > > " We determined there's a direct correlation between the EDTA and the > lack of oxygen to the brain and the heart muscle damage. It's a total > package, based on the autopsy, the histology and > the toxicology , " Mr. Strimlan said. > > The determination is sure to spark debate among parents, many of > whom support chelation as a safe and effective therapy for autism. > Others condemn the treatment as voodoo medicine. > > The autopsy report indicates the manner of death was accidental. The > other categories are natural, suicide and homicide. > > Mr. Young said he said he soon will meet with County District > Attorney Randa and Pennsylvania State Police Cpl. Ray Melder, of > the barracks, to discuss whether a coroner's inquest should be > scheduled. He said the determination that the death was accidental > could change, depending on what additional information is gleaned > from an inquest, if one is held. > > The Nigerian boy was brought to the United States from England last > spring by his mother, Marwa, specifically for chelation therapy. > Chelation is most often used in treatment of lead poisoning. > > During an Aug. 23 procedure in the Portersville, County, > office of Dr. Roy Eugene Kerry, Tariq went into cardiac arrest. > > He had been receiving an intravenous injection of EDTA, a synthetic > amino acid that is approved by the Food and Drug Administration to > treat heavy metal poisoning. EDTA latches onto heavy metals in the > bloodstream so they can be excreted in the urine. > > Within autism advocacy circles, chelation talk has been escalating > as proponents report improvements in autistic children who have > undergone the treatment. Though conventional medicine considers > autism a neurological disorder, others believe it is a treatable > condition linked to intolerable levels of metals in the bloodstream. > * > ** > > The material in this post is distributed without profit to those who have > expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for > research and educational purposes. For more information go to: > http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html > http://oregon.uoregon.edu/~csundt/documents.htm > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this email for purposes > that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright > owner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 And how many children have died from an adverse reaction to immunizations???? Wonder why they don't report that??? Kathleen Coroner Rules Child's Death Directly Linked to Chelation > > Death of 5-year-old boy linked to controversial chelation therapy > http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06006/633541.stm > > Friday, January 06, 2006 > > By Kane, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette > > A 5-year-old autistic boy who went into cardiac arrest in his > doctor's office died as a result of the controversial chelation > therapy he was receiving as a treatment for his autism. > > The manner of death of Abubakar Tariq Nadama, of Monroeville, has > been listed as accidental while the investigation continues. > > The findings released by the County coroner's office don't > say whether the treatment itself is dangerous or the child died from > the way the treatment was administered. > > In layman's terms, the administration of ethylene diamine > tetra-acetate, commonly known as chelation, resulted in a lack of > oxygen to the brain as well as irreversible heart damage, said > Allegheny County Deputy Coroner Ed Strimlan. > > The Allegheny County morgue conducted the autopsy on the child at > the request of County Coroner Bill Young. > > " We determined there's a direct correlation between the EDTA and the > lack of oxygen to the brain and the heart muscle damage. It's a total > package, based on the autopsy, the histology and > the toxicology , " Mr. Strimlan said. > > The determination is sure to spark debate among parents, many of > whom support chelation as a safe and effective therapy for autism. > Others condemn the treatment as voodoo medicine. > > The autopsy report indicates the manner of death was accidental. The > other categories are natural, suicide and homicide. > > Mr. Young said he said he soon will meet with County District > Attorney Randa and Pennsylvania State Police Cpl. Ray Melder, of > the barracks, to discuss whether a coroner's inquest should be > scheduled. He said the determination that the death was accidental > could change, depending on what additional information is gleaned > from an inquest, if one is held. > > The Nigerian boy was brought to the United States from England last > spring by his mother, Marwa, specifically for chelation therapy. > Chelation is most often used in treatment of lead poisoning. > > During an Aug. 23 procedure in the Portersville, County, > office of Dr. Roy Eugene Kerry, Tariq went into cardiac arrest. > > He had been receiving an intravenous injection of EDTA, a synthetic > amino acid that is approved by the Food and Drug Administration to > treat heavy metal poisoning. EDTA latches onto heavy metals in the > bloodstream so they can be excreted in the urine. > > Within autism advocacy circles, chelation talk has been escalating > as proponents report improvements in autistic children who have > undergone the treatment. Though conventional medicine considers > autism a neurological disorder, others believe it is a treatable > condition linked to intolerable levels of metals in the bloodstream. > * > ** > > The material in this post is distributed without profit to those who have > expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for > research and educational purposes. For more information go to: > http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html > http://oregon.uoregon.edu/~csundt/documents.htm > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this email for purposes > that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright > owner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Or have died from all the 'lovely' pharmacological junk that traditional medicine likes to pur out kids on to 'control their behaviors'? You don't hear that reported either... It's all in how you spin it. > > And how many children have died from an adverse reaction to > immunizations???? Wonder why they don't report that??? > Kathleen > Coroner Rules Child's Death Directly Linked to > Chelation > > > > > > Death of 5-year-old boy linked to controversial chelation therapy > > http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06006/633541.stm > > > > Friday, January 06, 2006 > > > > By Kane, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette > > > > A 5-year-old autistic boy who went into cardiac arrest in his > > doctor's office died as a result of the controversial chelation > > therapy he was receiving as a treatment for his autism. > > > > The manner of death of Abubakar Tariq Nadama, of Monroeville, has > > been listed as accidental while the investigation continues. > > > > The findings released by the County coroner's office don't > > say whether the treatment itself is dangerous or the child died from > > the way the treatment was administered. > > > > In layman's terms, the administration of ethylene diamine > > tetra-acetate, commonly known as chelation, resulted in a lack of > > oxygen to the brain as well as irreversible heart damage, said > > Allegheny County Deputy Coroner Ed Strimlan. > > > > The Allegheny County morgue conducted the autopsy on the child at > > the request of County Coroner Bill Young. > > > > " We determined there's a direct correlation between the EDTA and the > > lack of oxygen to the brain and the heart muscle damage. It's a total > > package, based on the autopsy, the histology and > > the toxicology , " Mr. Strimlan said. > > > > The determination is sure to spark debate among parents, many of > > whom support chelation as a safe and effective therapy for autism. > > Others condemn the treatment as voodoo medicine. > > > > The autopsy report indicates the manner of death was accidental. The > > other categories are natural, suicide and homicide. > > > > Mr. Young said he said he soon will meet with County District > > Attorney Randa and Pennsylvania State Police Cpl. Ray Melder, of > > the barracks, to discuss whether a coroner's inquest should be > > scheduled. He said the determination that the death was accidental > > could change, depending on what additional information is gleaned > > from an inquest, if one is held. > > > > The Nigerian boy was brought to the United States from England last > > spring by his mother, Marwa, specifically for chelation therapy. > > Chelation is most often used in treatment of lead poisoning. > > > > During an Aug. 23 procedure in the Portersville, County, > > office of Dr. Roy Eugene Kerry, Tariq went into cardiac arrest. > > > > He had been receiving an intravenous injection of EDTA, a synthetic > > amino acid that is approved by the Food and Drug Administration to > > treat heavy metal poisoning. EDTA latches onto heavy metals in the > > bloodstream so they can be excreted in the urine. > > > > Within autism advocacy circles, chelation talk has been escalating > > as proponents report improvements in autistic children who have > > undergone the treatment. Though conventional medicine considers > > autism a neurological disorder, others believe it is a treatable > > condition linked to intolerable levels of metals in the bloodstream. > > * > > ** > > > > The material in this post is distributed without profit to those who have > > expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for > > research and educational purposes. For more information go to: > > http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html > > http://oregon.uoregon.edu/~csundt/documents.htm > > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this email for purposes > > that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright > > owner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Does anyone know if it was Calcium EDTA or the older form of EDTA. This fact makes all the difference. Re: Coroner Rules Child's Death Directly Linked to Chelation Or have died from all the 'lovely' pharmacological junk that traditional medicine likes to pur out kids on to 'control their behaviors'? You don't hear that reported either... It's all in how you spin it. > > And how many children have died from an adverse reaction to > immunizations???? Wonder why they don't report that??? > Kathleen > Coroner Rules Child's Death Directly Linked to > Chelation > > > > > > Death of 5-year-old boy linked to controversial chelation therapy > > http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06006/633541.stm > > > > Friday, January 06, 2006 > > > > By Kane, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette > > > > A 5-year-old autistic boy who went into cardiac arrest in his > > doctor's office died as a result of the controversial chelation > > therapy he was receiving as a treatment for his autism. > > > > The manner of death of Abubakar Tariq Nadama, of Monroeville, has > > been listed as accidental while the investigation continues. > > > > The findings released by the County coroner's office don't > > say whether the treatment itself is dangerous or the child died from > > the way the treatment was administered. > > > > In layman's terms, the administration of ethylene diamine > > tetra-acetate, commonly known as chelation, resulted in a lack of > > oxygen to the brain as well as irreversible heart damage, said > > Allegheny County Deputy Coroner Ed Strimlan. > > > > The Allegheny County morgue conducted the autopsy on the child at > > the request of County Coroner Bill Young. > > > > " We determined there's a direct correlation between the EDTA and the > > lack of oxygen to the brain and the heart muscle damage. It's a total > > package, based on the autopsy, the histology and > > the toxicology , " Mr. Strimlan said. > > > > The determination is sure to spark debate among parents, many of > > whom support chelation as a safe and effective therapy for autism. > > Others condemn the treatment as voodoo medicine. > > > > The autopsy report indicates the manner of death was accidental. The > > other categories are natural, suicide and homicide. > > > > Mr. Young said he said he soon will meet with County District > > Attorney Randa and Pennsylvania State Police Cpl. Ray Melder, of > > the barracks, to discuss whether a coroner's inquest should be > > scheduled. He said the determination that the death was accidental > > could change, depending on what additional information is gleaned > > from an inquest, if one is held. > > > > The Nigerian boy was brought to the United States from England last > > spring by his mother, Marwa, specifically for chelation therapy. > > Chelation is most often used in treatment of lead poisoning. > > > > During an Aug. 23 procedure in the Portersville, County, > > office of Dr. Roy Eugene Kerry, Tariq went into cardiac arrest. > > > > He had been receiving an intravenous injection of EDTA, a synthetic > > amino acid that is approved by the Food and Drug Administration to > > treat heavy metal poisoning. EDTA latches onto heavy metals in the > > bloodstream so they can be excreted in the urine. > > > > Within autism advocacy circles, chelation talk has been escalating > > as proponents report improvements in autistic children who have > > undergone the treatment. Though conventional medicine considers > > autism a neurological disorder, others believe it is a treatable > > condition linked to intolerable levels of metals in the bloodstream. > > * > > ** > > > > The material in this post is distributed without profit to those who have > > expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for > > research and educational purposes. For more information go to: > > http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html > > http://oregon.uoregon.edu/~csundt/documents.htm > > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this email for purposes > > that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright > > owner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Per Dr. Neubrander's and others responses, the suspicion is that chelation was performed in this particular case using IV push of disodium EDTA. Not sure if this has been confirmed or ruled out. > > Does anyone know if it was Calcium EDTA or the older form of EDTA. This > fact makes all the difference. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 My understanding is that is was the disodium EDTA, which can be used for a drip, but not for a push. There are many docs who do use the push, but it is apparently calcium EDTA, not disodium EDTA. And, you're right - it apparently makes all the difference as it is known that using disodium EDTA through a push will overwhelm the heart. Ruth pzns98 wrote: Per Dr. Neubrander's and others responses, the suspicion is that chelation was performed in this particular case using IV push of disodium EDTA. Not sure if this has been confirmed or ruled out. > > Does anyone know if it was Calcium EDTA or the older form of EDTA. This > fact makes all the difference. > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 We did IV Pushes of Calcium EDTA for over a year for our son. About 6 months in to it during the middle of a push my son complained of chest pain and not being able to breath. We immediately stopped the push. Now after this death I think I would only do a drip and only of calcium edta. ly, we got better results with the td dmps that we did afterwards. Re: Re: Coroner Rules Child's Death Directly Linked to Chelation My understanding is that is was the disodium EDTA, which can be used for a drip, but not for a push. There are many docs who do use the push, but it is apparently calcium EDTA, not disodium EDTA. And, you're right - it apparently makes all the difference as it is known that using disodium EDTA through a push will overwhelm the heart. Ruth pzns98 wrote: Per Dr. Neubrander's and others responses, the suspicion is that chelation was performed in this particular case using IV push of disodium EDTA. Not sure if this has been confirmed or ruled out. > > Does anyone know if it was Calcium EDTA or the older form of EDTA. This > fact makes all the difference. > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Dr. Gordon wrote a letter to autism groups right after the event occured. He speculated that it was the wrong form of EDTA used (magnesium EDTA was used instead of calcium EDTA). Calcium EDTA is fine for pushes, magnesium EDTA can cause cardiac failure if given as a push...but is fine if given as a drip. Do a search on CK2, ABMD, etc. I know the letter was posted to a few sites. -- In csb-autism-rx , " pzns98 " <petra_smit_2003@h...> wrote: > > Per Dr. Neubrander's and others responses, the suspicion is that > chelation was performed in this particular case using IV push of > disodium EDTA. Not sure if this has been confirmed or ruled out. > > > > > > Does anyone know if it was Calcium EDTA or the older form of EDTA. > This > > fact makes all the difference. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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