Re: Transplant & ObamaCare-welcome to my iceburg

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The really sad thing is that so many people were duped into believing this

was the 'cure all' for the healthcare woes in this country. What a farse!

I do not have words to express my disdain for this Congress or this

President and the idiocy they have now imposed upon the people of this

country. Heck, we'll be lucky if transplants are even OFFERED here in

another 5-10 years. All I know is, I hope all the people who supported this

crap are happy campers now, cause they won't be for much longer. Sorry if I

sound ugly, but I FEEL ugly about this whole mess!

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Bob Aragon wrote:

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> Just to clarify, I believe that now that obamacare is law, it is no longer

> a political topic. It is fair game here. If any other moderator disagrees

> with me, please let me know. This is now federal law, and will affect us

> all. How to the positive and how to the negative, I do not know. I do have

> an opinion. My wife and I are going to be very very poor if the cuts to

> medicare advantage go through. Right now we have an extra insurance through

> her pension called medicare advantage. It costs around $300.00 a month,

> which is taken out of her pension payments. She is not on it yet, as she

> does not go on medicare until July. Medicare advantage basically eliminates

> the donut hole, and turns medicare in to coverage like an hmo with a small

> co payment for doctors visits and prescriptions.

> I pay $300 a month, but then a CT scan only costs me $30.00, and not the

> regular $400.00 plus that it would with only medicare. Medicare is an 80-20

> plan, with the gubment paying 80% and the patient paying 20%

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> A liver transplant with medicare advantage would cost me today $200.00 out

> of pocket. In 2011 after this cut becomes permanant, and unless it can be

> repealed or stricken down by the supreme court, a liver transplant would

> cost me between $62,000.00 and $100,000.00, (20% of the going costs

> according to the American liver foundation).

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> I am not saying that this is what you would pay, but we have pretty good

> insurance, with this medicare advantage. That's why it's called advantage...

> it gives you an advantage.

> H. R. 3590 cuts the program in 2011.

>

> Without it, I will be forced on to the government medicare, and have to buy

> medicare part D for prescriptions. The bill was sold as ending the doughnut

> hole , but if you read the thing, it only reduces it by 25% in the year

> 2035...

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>

http://www.scribd.com/doc/29006463/Timeline-of-Major-Provisions-in-the-Democrats\

%E2%80%99-Health-Care-Package

> So we are starting to prepare now for this coming armageddon to our

> finances.

> I am not a happy camper about being lied to. I will NOT get to keep my

> coverage, and the one they will force me to have , I cannot afford. We

> bought a breadmaker, and we will invest in a 100 lb bag of flour. I hope

> they let me keep my flour. Love, Bobby

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> ________________________________

> From: millwrightswife <millwrightswife@...<millwrightswife%40yahoo.com>

> >

> To:

livercirrhosissupport <livercirrhosissupport%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 8:28:17 AM

> Subject: Re: Transplant & ObamaCare

>

> Trouble is they dont care if we complain all day. They arent listening.

> Even tho we were promised no healthcare tax hike from the Feds, they have

> put so much on the States, that we will all get taxed. Where do they think

> the States get their money. Of course We will all pick up the Cornhusker

> Kickback too..

>

> It will not get better, because it cant get better. The IRS will take over

> the job of making sure everyone has insurance, and this insurance is NOT

> FREE, no matter where we get it. If you dont have insurance you will pay a

> tax or as they call it a fee.. and if you dont they will come after you thru

> the IRS and the fees and penalties will accumulate just like back taxes. It

> is set up to hire 16000 new IRS agents and they dont come cheap. The cost of

> bureaucracy of this bill has not even been calculated yet. YELL TO The top

> your lungs...

>

> The feds are offering a tax credit to help those who cant buy insurance.

> What they are offering is enough to cover about two and half months of my

> insurance costs and the rest is on me and you. Insurance for me alone runs

> almost 500 a month thru hubbys job. I am now in the process of getting a

> much cheaper plan thru my State, but dont know if we qualify yet. No one can

> count on Medicare being there in the future. They are raping that acct. Dont

> mean to sound alarming here, but those who are really sick need healthcare

> guaranteed and it wont be thru this bill. All us Boomers will soon double

> the Medicare rolls.. Its really scary out there. Pray for this country.

> Debra

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> > > > It has occured to me with the reduction in medicare and the

> > > > government making health decisions that our chances of receiving a

> > > > tranplant may be worse. Just my opinion. Let's see, transplant for

> > > > aging hippie or 29 year old with a lot of tax years ahead.

> > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm m

> > > > What do you think?

> > > > RocketRon

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