Soaking Oats

[Guest guest]

Hello; I was wondering if soaking oats in water and draining the

water off to use in lotion or soap would act the same as hydrolized

oats. Does anyone know the answer? Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Colette

[Guest guest]

Hi and All,

Science and nature don't need to be at odds--they can work together and

sometimes are really one and the same. Herbalists/naturalists/alternative

therapies and modern medicine/science, etc. don't have to be at odds either. I

can

see why one would want to use oats or oat water or boiled oat water or

hydrolyzed oats or oat straw or pretty much any oat derivative in personal care

products. Granted, the preservative issues can present a problem if not handled

properly, but so can almost any other organic material when used in toiletries.

I

know an excellent cosmetic chemist (not on this list) that hates to use any

thing " natural " in his products...and that's ok too. I come from a science

background, but find myself relying more and more on both science and intuition

and sometimes just plain common sense Oats and oat products are " good for

us " . I won't detail it here, but some searching will pull up some info. .

One interesting observation...I just got my newest issue of Cosmetics &

Toiletries magazine and if I hadn't looked at the cover it could have passed for

The Herbalist/Alternative Medicine News ....virtually every ad and many of the

articles are about " new " natural or naturally derived compounds or materials

for toiletries and cosmetics. They had a most interesting article on rosemary

oleoresin as an antioxidant. Seems the big guys are really taking off with

this idea---funny really.

Anyway, just some thoughts during breaktime from gardening, etc. Now back to

the garden

Angie

The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care

Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality

at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com

[Guest guest]

I was wondering if soaking oats in water and draining the

water off to use in lotion or soap would act the same as hydrolized

oats.

Hi. First of all, I apologize for the thought process today---I'm defending my

thesis in a week and have found that everything is making me think these days.

Anyways, AFAIK, hydrolysis reactions refer to chemical reactions where water is

(one) of the products of the reaction. For example, when poly- or oligo-

saccharides are digested by the action of enzymes (such as lysozyme, found

commonly in tears, mucous, and saliva), monosaccharides (such as glucose) and

water are liberated by the reaction. So, I think " oat water " (I like the sound

of that), is not what you are looking for when you want to use hydrolized oats

in a formula. However, cooking the oats in boiling water would break down the

cell wall, effectively liberating the saccharides.......and maybe you could use

that. My question is this........why would you want to use that in a formula?

Not trying to be a pain here at all, by the way, just wondering. I have found

the scientist very strongly at odds with the

naturopath in me of late, and am genuinely interested in both points of view.

Anyone feel free to share on this?

N. Holowaty, BSc

www.melskitchen.com

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[Guest guest]

Colette, I have no idea if it acts the same as hydrolized oats.

Maybe. But chemically, it's probably not the same; soaking oats

would not hydrolize them. I'll leave that answer to the experts.

But here's what I do with oats. I heat oats in milk for awhile, to

make a runny oatmeal. I strain off the oatmeal and use the milk in

CP soap. I find it to be a wonderful-feeling additive. You wouldn't

have to strain the oatmeal out, but in some of my soaps I don't want

any abrasives. I guess you could use it in lotion too, but would

want to be sure it's very well preserved.

Sherry Boester

Wildwood BodyWorks

> Hello; I was wondering if soaking oats in water and draining the

> water off to use in lotion or soap would act the same as hydrolized

> oats.