Guest guest Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 I was wondering myself about alzheimers drugs because I thought I had read somewhere that cholinergic drugs might be helpful with sensory gating. Not sure I am up to trying Alzheimers medications yet, Could always try something natural from the vitamin store..To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:43:46 PMSubject: Aricept Is anyone on this board taking Aricept (alzheimers drug) ? I search and didn't get any hits but I could have done the search wrong. Here's my thinking: ADHD children are sometimes given ritalin which is actually a stimulant because the stimulant helps them to focus. Counter intuitive. Aricept helps when you are losing brain functioning. Helps your neural pathways to function correctly. My personal theory is that 4S is similiar to synesthesia in that there is a lack of neural pruning going on. However, would it be possible that on Aricept, the increase in correct neural functioning would help circumvent the incorrect neural firings going on with the 4s ? Just a thought. Also probably not many people on this board take Aricept so it has probably not been ruled out as helpful in treating 4s. Just a thought ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Is there anything natural that seems to work to aleviate symptoms. ML Subject: Re: AriceptTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 8:22 PM I was wondering myself about alzheimers drugs because I thought I had read somewhere that cholinergic drugs might be helpful with sensory gating. Not sure I am up to trying Alzheimers medications yet, Could always try something natural from the vitamin store.. To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:43:46 PMSubject: Aricept Is anyone on this board taking Aricept (alzheimers drug) ?I search and didn't get any hits but I could have done the search wrong.Here's my thinking:ADHD children are sometimes given ritalin which is actually a stimulant because the stimulant helps them to focus. Counter intuitive.Aricept helps when you are losing brain functioning. Helps your neural pathways to function correctly.My personal theory is that 4S is similiar to synesthesia in that there is a lack of neural pruning going on. However, would it be possible that on Aricept, the increase in correct neural functioning would help circumvent the incorrect neural firings going on with the 4s ?Just a thought. Also probably not many people on this board take Aricept so it has probably not been ruled out as helpful in treating 4s.Just a thought ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Interesting...that is a really good question. From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of v_m_fenSent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:44 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Aricept Is anyone on this board taking Aricept (alzheimers drug) ?I search and didn't get any hits but I could have done the search wrong.Here's my thinking:ADHD children are sometimes given ritalin which is actually a stimulant because the stimulant helps them to focus. Counter intuitive.Aricept helps when you are losing brain functioning. Helps your neural pathways to function correctly.My personal theory is that 4S is similiar to synesthesia in that there is a lack of neural pruning going on. However, would it be possible that on Aricept, the increase in correct neural functioning would help circumvent the incorrect neural firings going on with the 4s ?Just a thought. Also probably not many people on this board take Aricept so it has probably not been ruled out as helpful in treating 4s.Just a thought ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Hi Maikaefer, I picked up on your reference to "sensory gating" and decided to google it. I found a really interesting article on auditory sensory gating that, although it mostly refers to Schizophrenia, it does mention other disorders later in the article. It's rather technical, but if you can read over some of those details and terms to get to the main information, it talks about using MEGs (Magnetoencephalography) instead of or with EEGs to get more accurate information on the results of studies and testing (using clicking sounds) on different parts of the brain. It also mentions that "novel" antipsychotic medications (versus "conventional" antipsychotic medications) "may reduce the audio gating deficit". It does not mention the specific "novel" antipsychotic medications, but maybe this is an area to explore (again, although the studies were about audio gating deficit in schizophrenia, it does mention other disorders that may be involved). It's a long and complex article, but also quite fascinating. Here's the link . . . http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/160/9/1595 From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of maikaeferSent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:22 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Aricept I was wondering myself about alzheimers drugs because I thought I had read somewhere that cholinergic drugs might be helpful with sensory gating. Not sure I am up to trying Alzheimers medications yet, Could always try something natural from the vitamin store.. To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:43:46 PMSubject: Aricept Is anyone on this board taking Aricept (alzheimers drug) ?I search and didn't get any hits but I could have done the search wrong.Here's my thinking:ADHD children are sometimes given ritalin which is actually a stimulant because the stimulant helps them to focus. Counter intuitive.Aricept helps when you are losing brain functioning. Helps your neural pathways to function correctly.My personal theory is that 4S is similiar to synesthesia in that there is a lack of neural pruning going on. However, would it be possible that on Aricept, the increase in correct neural functioning would help circumvent the incorrect neural firings going on with the 4s ?Just a thought. Also probably not many people on this board take Aricept so it has probably not been ruled out as helpful in treating 4s.Just a thought ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I have been wondering about Dr. Amen's (of Change your mind fame) SPECT scans for misophonia. I called his California clinic about a year ago to ask if he had done any work with the issue, and they said no.Does anyone think it would be useful to contact him further?I do not suffer from the condition, so would not be a good subject.Ideas? Tara Economakis, Dip.AdvHyp,(N-SHAP),MCRAH,UKCP Telephone 01488-685151/ 686881 info@... www.lastingchanges.co.uk To: Soundsensitivity From: ccummin1@...Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:36:09 -0800Subject: RE: Aricept Hi Maikaefer, I picked up on your reference to "sensory gating" and decided to google it. I found a really interesting article on auditory sensory gating that, although it mostly refers to Schizophrenia, it does mention other disorders later in the article. It's rather technical, but if you can read over some of those details and terms to get to the main information, it talks about using MEGs (Magnetoencephalography) instead of or with EEGs to get more accurate information on the results of studies and testing (using clicking sounds) on different parts of the brain. It also mentions that "novel" antipsychotic medications (versus "conventional" antipsychotic medications) "may reduce the audio gating deficit". It does not mention the specific "novel" antipsychotic medications, but maybe this is an area to explore (again, although the studies were about audio gating deficit in schizophrenia, it does mention other disorders that may be involved). It's a long and complex article, but also quite fascinating. Here's the link . . . http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/160/9/1595 From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of maikaeferSent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:22 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Aricept I was wondering myself about alzheimers drugs because I thought I had read somewhere that cholinergic drugs might be helpful with sensory gating. Not sure I am up to trying Alzheimers medications yet, Could always try something natural from the vitamin store.. To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:43:46 PMSubject: Aricept Is anyone on this board taking Aricept (alzheimers drug) ?I search and didn't get any hits but I could have done the search wrong.Here's my thinking:ADHD children are sometimes given ritalin which is actually a stimulant because the stimulant helps them to focus. Counter intuitive.Aricept helps when you are losing brain functioning. Helps your neural pathways to function correctly.My personal theory is that 4S is similiar to synesthesia in that there is a lack of neural pruning going on. However, would it be possible that on Aricept, the increase in correct neural functioning would help circumvent the incorrect neural firings going on with the 4s ?Just a thought. Also probably not many people on this board take Aricept so it has probably not been ruled out as helpful in treating 4s.Just a thought ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Hi Thanks for the link. It is all mumbo jumbo to me, but my psychiatrist is okay with me bringing up ideas to him, its really kind of a guessing game anyway with the psych meds. I have tried a couple anti-psychotics, not sure whether they were conventional or not. It didn't seem to really help, course I don't know that I was ever on a high enough dosage, side effects and cost were a problem for me. I can't remember where I read that about cholingeric drugs for sensory gating (possibly), but I am preety sure that it wasn't an actual study I read about, just someone's idea for research.To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 2:36:09 PMSubject: RE: Aricept Hi Maikaefer, I picked up on your reference to "sensory gating" and decided to google it. I found a really interesting article on auditory sensory gating that, although it mostly refers to Schizophrenia, it does mention other disorders later in the article. It's rather technical, but if you can read over some of those details and terms to get to the main information, it talks about using MEGs (Magnetoencephalography) instead of or with EEGs to get more accurate information on the results of studies and testing (using clicking sounds) on different parts of the brain. It also mentions that "novel" antipsychotic medications (versus "conventional" antipsychotic medications) "may reduce the audio gating deficit". It does not mention the specific "novel" antipsychotic medications, but maybe this is an area to explore (again, although the studies were about audio gating deficit in schizophrenia, it does mention other disorders that may be involved). It's a long and complex article, but also quite fascinating. Here's the link . . . http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/160/9/1595 From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of maikaeferSent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:22 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Aricept I was wondering myself about alzheimers drugs because I thought I had read somewhere that cholinergic drugs might be helpful with sensory gating. Not sure I am up to trying Alzheimers medications yet, Could always try something natural from the vitamin store.. To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:43:46 PMSubject: Aricept Is anyone on this board taking Aricept (alzheimers drug) ?I search and didn't get any hits but I could have done the search wrong.Here's my thinking:ADHD children are sometimes given ritalin which is actually a stimulant because the stimulant helps them to focus. Counter intuitive.Aricept helps when you are losing brain functioning. Helps your neural pathways to function correctly.My personal theory is that 4S is similiar to synesthesia in that there is a lack of neural pruning going on. However, would it be possible that on Aricept, the increase in correct neural functioning would help circumvent the incorrect neural firings going on with the 4s ?Just a thought. Also probably not many people on this board take Aricept so it has probably not been ruled out as helpful in treating 4s.Just a thought ! Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Not that I have found. But I haven't done whole a lot of experimenting, too pricey right now. To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 11:02:33 PMSubject: Re: Aricept Is there anything natural that seems to work to aleviate symptoms. ML Subject: Re: AriceptTo: Soundsensitivity Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 8:22 PM I was wondering myself about alzheimers drugs because I thought I had read somewhere that cholinergic drugs might be helpful with sensory gating. Not sure I am up to trying Alzheimers medications yet, Could always try something natural from the vitamin store.. To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:43:46 PMSubject: Aricept Is anyone on this board taking Aricept (alzheimers drug) ?I search and didn't get any hits but I could have done the search wrong.Here's my thinking:ADHD children are sometimes given ritalin which is actually a stimulant because the stimulant helps them to focus. Counter intuitive.Aricept helps when you are losing brain functioning. Helps your neural pathways to function correctly.My personal theory is that 4S is similiar to synesthesia in that there is a lack of neural pruning going on. However, would it be possible that on Aricept, the increase in correct neural functioning would help circumvent the incorrect neural firings going on with the 4s ?Just a thought. Also probably not many people on this board take Aricept so it has probably not been ruled out as helpful in treating 4s.Just a thought ! We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love(and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I am familiar with Dr Amen and spoke to him on several occasions. I think it would be worth investigating. I am not sure what he might recommend, but I think it would be great if someone can go there and investigate. Marsha ... > > > > > > I have been wondering about Dr. Amen's (of Change your mind fame) SPECT scans for misophonia. I called his California clinic about a year ago to ask if he had done any work with the issue, and they said no. > Does anyone think it would be useful to contact him further? > I do not suffer from the condition, so would not be a good subject. > Ideas? > > > Tara Economakis, Dip.AdvHyp,(N-SHAP),MCRAH,UKCP > > > Telephone 01488-685151/ 686881 > > > info@... > > > www.lastingchanges.co.uk > > > > > > > > To: Soundsensitivity > From: ccummin1@... > Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:36:09 -0800 > Subject: RE: Aricept > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > Maikaefer, > > I picked > up on your reference to " sensory gating " and decided to google it. I found > a really interesting article on auditory sensory gating that, although > it mostly refers to Schizophrenia, it does mention other disorders later in the > article. It's rather technical, but if you can read over some of those > details and terms to get to the main information, it talks about using > MEGs (Magnetoencephalography) instead of or > with EEGs to get more accurate information on the results of studies and testing > (using clicking sounds) on different parts of the brain. It also > mentions that " novel " antipsychotic medications (versus " conventional " > antipsychotic medications) " may reduce the audio gating deficit " . It does > not mention the specific " novel " antipsychotic medications, but maybe this is an > area to explore (again, although the studies were about audio gating > deficit in schizophrenia, it does mention other disorders that may be > involved). It's a long and complex article, but also quite > fascinating. Here's the link . . . > > http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/160/9/1595 > > > > From: Soundsensitivity > [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of > maikaefer > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:22 PM > To: > Soundsensitivity > Subject: Re: > Aricept > > > > > > > > I was > wondering myself about alzheimers drugs because I thought I had read somewhere > that cholinergic drugs might be helpful with sensory gating. Not sure I am up to > trying Alzheimers medications yet, Could always try something natural from the > vitamin store.. > > > > > From: v_m_fen > > To: > Soundsensitivity > Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:43:46 > PM > Subject: > Aricept > > > > Is anyone on this board taking Aricept (alzheimers drug) ? > > I search > and didn't get any hits but I could have done the search wrong. > > Here's my > thinking: > > ADHD children are sometimes given ritalin which is actually a > stimulant because the stimulant helps them to focus. Counter > intuitive. > > Aricept helps when you are losing brain functioning. Helps > your neural pathways to function correctly. > > My personal theory is that 4S > is similiar to synesthesia in that there is a lack of neural pruning going on. > > > However, would it be possible that on Aricept, the increase in correct > neural functioning would help circumvent the incorrect neural firings going on > with the 4s ? > > Just a thought. Also probably not many people on this board > take Aricept so it has probably not been ruled out as helpful in treating > 4s. > > Just a thought ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 It is costly, but if someone was willing to connect with Dr. Amen, perhaps we could raise some money to help pay for the consultation and scan?Even better, would insurance cover it? Tara Economakis, Dip.AdvHyp,(N-SHAP),MCRAH,UKCP Telephone 01488-685151/ 686881 info@... www.lastingchanges.co.uk To: Soundsensitivity From: Oregon7@...Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:32:05 +0000Subject: Re: Aricept I am familiar with Dr Amen and spoke to him on several occasions. I think it would be worth investigating. I am not sure what he might recommend, but I think it would be great if someone can go there and investigate. Marsha ... > > > > > > I have been wondering about Dr. Amen's (of Change your mind fame) SPECT scans for misophonia. I called his California clinic about a year ago to ask if he had done any work with the issue, and they said no. > Does anyone think it would be useful to contact him further? > I do not suffer from the condition, so would not be a good subject. > Ideas? > > > Tara Economakis, Dip.AdvHyp,(N-SHAP),MCRAH,UKCP > > > Telephone 01488-685151/ 686881 > > > info@... > > > www.lastingchanges.co.uk > > > > > > > > To: Soundsensitivity > From: ccummin1@... > Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:36:09 -0800 > Subject: RE: Aricept > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > Maikaefer, > > I picked > up on your reference to "sensory gating" and decided to google it. I found > a really interesting article on auditory sensory gating that, although > it mostly refers to Schizophrenia, it does mention other disorders later in the > article. It's rather technical, but if you can read over some of those > details and terms to get to the main information, it talks about using > MEGs (Magnetoencephalography) instead of or > with EEGs to get more accurate information on the results of studies and testing > (using clicking sounds) on different parts of the brain. It also > mentions that "novel" antipsychotic medications (versus "conventional" > antipsychotic medications) "may reduce the audio gating deficit". It does > not mention the specific "novel" antipsychotic medications, but maybe this is an > area to explore (again, although the studies were about audio gating > deficit in schizophrenia, it does mention other disorders that may be > involved). It's a long and complex article, but also quite > fascinating. Here's the link . . . > > http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/160/9/1595 > > > > From: Soundsensitivity > [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of > maikaefer > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 8:22 PM > To: > Soundsensitivity > Subject: Re: > Aricept > > > > > > > > I was > wondering myself about alzheimers drugs because I thought I had read somewhere > that cholinergic drugs might be helpful with sensory gating. Not sure I am up to > trying Alzheimers medications yet, Could always try something natural from the > vitamin store.. > > > > > From: v_m_fen > > To: > Soundsensitivity > Sent: Mon, February 7, 2011 8:43:46 > PM > Subject: > Aricept > > > > Is anyone on this board taking Aricept (alzheimers drug) ? > > I search > and didn't get any hits but I could have done the search wrong. > > Here's my > thinking: > > ADHD children are sometimes given ritalin which is actually a > stimulant because the stimulant helps them to focus. Counter > intuitive. > > Aricept helps when you are losing brain functioning. Helps > your neural pathways to function correctly. > > My personal theory is that 4S > is similiar to synesthesia in that there is a lack of neural pruning going on. > > > However, would it be possible that on Aricept, the increase in correct > neural functioning would help circumvent the incorrect neural firings going on > with the 4s ? > > Just a thought. Also probably not many people on this board > take Aricept so it has probably not been ruled out as helpful in treating > 4s. > > Just a thought ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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