Re: no vaccination waivers?

[Guest guest]

Yikes- this thread is appalling! Before Brett's diagnosis, I was a

postpartum/newborn nurse in a major hospital, and I would have NEVER snuck in to

do

anything outside of parents' wishes. I made sure to triple check with them

before I did anything more invasive than taking a temperature! (Sadly, I did

inject quite a few newborns with Hep B before any of us knew better...)

~Sue

[Guest guest]

You don't need a waiver for the hospital. It's illegal for them to

give your baby a vaccination without your permission (you have to sign

for it). Just be careful about what you sign and make it clear to

everyone involved in your child's care that he will not be receiving

the Hep B.

>

> I'm having my 2nd son early and he's small, so he is most likely going

> to be born in a hospital. I DON'T want HepB, but with Jake, I didn't

> even know he got it until well after the fact (he was a NICU baby and

> it must have been given in the brief moments I was gone). I've heard

> of waivers, but do you go IN with one, just constantly refuse it, or

> what?

>

> We're in MA, if that makes any difference.

>

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Even a waiver isn't good enough! These people will do anything to get to

your baby and give this shot. It doesn't matter what you sign or who you

tell-your baby will probably get it anyway. My brother signed a waiver and

did everything he could to insure his baby did not get this shot. Well as

soon as he and his wife dozed off in their room with their baby right there

with them, a nurse snuck in and they woke up to her injecting their child

with the HEP B, his wife began screaming! Of course she said she had not

read the chart so she didn't know. That is a crock of crap because if that

was true, then how did she know that the shot had not already been given???

Be afraid, very afraid, they will do anything to give this shot! Good luck,

you'll need it.

no vaccination waivers?

I'm having my 2nd son early and he's small, so he is most likely going

to be born in a hospital. I DON'T want HepB, but with Jake, I didn't

even know he got it until well after the fact (he was a NICU baby and

it must have been given in the brief moments I was gone). I've heard

of waivers, but do you go IN with one, just constantly refuse it, or

what?

We're in MA, if that makes any difference.

Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

I have heard that they can get around this also. They have you sign

something that you think is for something else, but hidden in the paperwork

is permission to vaccinate your child. They are quite tricky, so be careful

what you sign!

Re: no vaccination waivers?

You don't need a waiver for the hospital. It's illegal for them to

give your baby a vaccination without your permission (you have to sign

for it). Just be careful about what you sign and make it clear to

everyone involved in your child's care that he will not be receiving

the Hep B.

>

> I'm having my 2nd son early and he's small, so he is most likely going

> to be born in a hospital. I DON'T want HepB, but with Jake, I didn't

> even know he got it until well after the fact (he was a NICU baby and

> it must have been given in the brief moments I was gone). I've heard

> of waivers, but do you go IN with one, just constantly refuse it, or

> what?

>

> We're in MA, if that makes any difference.

>

> Thanks!

>

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[Guest guest]

I would let them know that your child is to receive NO IMMUNIZATIONS and

that your child is not to receive ANY shots without your prior approval or

you WILL BE taking them to court. Sometimes that is the only way they hear

you. I'd have it in writting and ask them to put it in your chart too.

Kathleen

Re: no vaccination waivers?

> You don't need a waiver for the hospital. It's illegal for them to

> give your baby a vaccination without your permission (you have to sign

> for it). Just be careful about what you sign and make it clear to

> everyone involved in your child's care that he will not be receiving

> the Hep B.

>

>

>

>

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>> I'm having my 2nd son early and he's small, so he is most likely going

>> to be born in a hospital. I DON'T want HepB, but with Jake, I didn't

>> even know he got it until well after the fact (he was a NICU baby and

>> it must have been given in the brief moments I was gone). I've heard

>> of waivers, but do you go IN with one, just constantly refuse it, or

>> what?

>>

>> We're in MA, if that makes any difference.

>>

>> Thanks!

>>

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> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

> <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

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[Guest guest]

That just makes me so sick and sad at the same time. Disgusting.

no vaccination waivers?

>

> I'm having my 2nd son early and he's small, so he is most likely going

> to be born in a hospital. I DON'T want HepB, but with Jake, I didn't

> even know he got it until well after the fact (he was a NICU baby and

> it must have been given in the brief moments I was gone). I've heard

> of waivers, but do you go IN with one, just constantly refuse it, or

> what?

>

> We're in MA, if that makes any difference.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

> <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I thought the schedule of Hep B is moved to 2 weeks of age.

That was true for my son who was born in 2002. If you fear that they may

inject your child without permission, do take a waiver and above all

before you give birth make sure every one knows that you will sue the

hospital for administering anything without your permission (be very

direct and yet measured). Find a lawyer to write this for you and give a

copy of it to the supervisors and all the nursing staff. Threat of law

suit does wonders for these people. Above all, don't be nice to anyone

who is not being cooperative. Feel free to take out all your

post-birthing discomfort on anyone who is acting stupid. Be nice to the

ones who are sympathetic, you do need some people to look out for you.

Have family members and friends come and be on the look out as well.

I did have a really good experience delivering in a hospital. They did

nothing without notifying me and my husband.

Congratulations on your baby and best wishes to both of you.

Haleh

carie vercelli wrote:

> Even a waiver isn't good enough! These people will do anything to get to

> your baby and give this shot. It doesn't matter what you sign or who you

> tell-your baby will probably get it anyway. My brother signed a

> waiver and

> did everything he could to insure his baby did not get this shot. Well as

> soon as he and his wife dozed off in their room with their baby right

> there

> with them, a nurse snuck in and they woke up to her injecting their child

> with the HEP B, his wife began screaming! Of course she said she had not

> read the chart so she didn't know. That is a crock of crap because

> if that

> was true, then how did she know that the shot had not already been

> given???

> Be afraid, very afraid, they will do anything to give this shot! Good

> luck,

> you'll need it.

>

> no vaccination waivers?

>

> I'm having my 2nd son early and he's small, so he is most likely going

> to be born in a hospital. I DON'T want HepB, but with Jake, I didn't

> even know he got it until well after the fact (he was a NICU baby and

> it must have been given in the brief moments I was gone). I've heard

> of waivers, but do you go IN with one, just constantly refuse it, or

> what?

>

> We're in MA, if that makes any difference.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

> <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think that these ideas are good, and would like to emphasize the fact that

you should bring someone with you to watch the baby at all times. You and

hubby will be too tired. If you can get a doula or midwife, even better. Pay

them to stay with you until you leave.

I'd rather be a pain in the ass who's hated by every nurse and doctor than

expose my child to a vaccine again. Remember, when you're gone, they'll

forget about you and your attitude in a heartbeat. But you have to live with

your decisions-and theirs-for the rest of your life.

Liz

[Guest guest]

I ended up sleeping with my daughter or my stomach (my 2nd child) and when I

was too tired for that, my husband slept with her. I also didn't let them take

her from our room to examine her like they like to do. We had a good

experience, but you never know. When my son was born, I caught a night shift

nurse sneaking in at night and actually trying to give him a bottle when I

specifically said I was breastfeeding and didn't want a bottle. The other thing

if you can manage and the baby is healthy is to stay in the hospital for as

little time as possible. I went home after one day with my second one.

Re: no vaccination waivers?

I think that these ideas are good, and would like to emphasize the fact that

you should bring someone with you to watch the baby at all times. You and

hubby will be too tired. If you can get a doula or midwife, even better. Pay

them to stay with you until you leave.

I'd rather be a pain in the ass who's hated by every nurse and doctor than

expose my child to a vaccine again. Remember, when you're gone, they'll

forget about you and your attitude in a heartbeat. But you have to live with

your decisions-and theirs-for the rest of your life.

Liz

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