Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 In a message dated 06/24/2001 4:39:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, woodduckflds@... writes: > I can't eat toast (11 carbs whole oat bread) even with eggs and bacon I > spike 100 points which is bad in my opinion. I found some low carb (3 carbs) > bread at synergy that isn't too bad tasting. It still spikes me but not as > badly. This morning I had two open faced grilled swiss and ham on it and > went up about 55 points (not great but better then 100 <G So the lc bread probably has about half the carbs of regular bread, very good for you!!! :-) It raises me too, but with me each carb it raises my bs by 6, so it does matter if I eat lc bread or not. It is good, I agree. carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 In a message dated 06/24/2001 6:13:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, vmmasell@... writes: > My Dr. told me to test twice a day only!!!!!!! What area are you in? and who is the dr? Tell us so we won't accidently go to him, LOL Nothing personal against you, but this dr is sorely outdated, he needs to get eduacated on managing diabetes, many dr's do not know diabetes management. Many of us have dumped our dr's for a new one because its out bodies and they are putting us at risk for complications and disability and even death. testing twice a day, no way, I test at least 10 times a day, how in the world are you going to know how food affects you, or if even if your meds are working, if you take any. To me its like driving without a speedometer as someone on another list said. Testing before and 1 and 2 hours after every meal and snack is necessary to see how much it raises your bs, plus fasting, and at bedtime to see how much you rise during the night. Yes I know this is a lot but my dr is thrilled I'm not in denial over my diabetes. Its the only way for you to find the food that agrees with you, IMHO. carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 I can't eat toast (11 carbs whole oat bread) even with eggs and bacon I spike 100 points which is bad in my opinion. I found some low carb (3 carbs) bread at synergy that isn't too bad tasting. It still spikes me but not as badly. This morning I had two open faced grilled swiss and ham on it and went up about 55 points (not great but better then 100 <G>) http://www.synergydiet.com/ ---------- To: <diabetes > Subject: RE:toast question Date: Sun, Jun 24, 2001, 2:42 PM >>Today I decided to test myself one hour after eating the bread. I went from 87 this morning upon waking up to 186 one hour after the bread. Is this normal?<< Are you eating protein (eggs, meat, nuts) with your bread? That makes a big difference for me as it slows down the metabolism of the bread. (That sounds funny....like bread has a metabolism LOL...but you know what I mean). Also, IMO, it is not so much whether it is " lite " bread for me, but whether it is WHOLE grain bread (processed wheat bread doesn't count). I eat a bread called Health Nut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 > I can't eat toast (11 carbs whole oat bread) even with eggs and > bacon I spike 100 points which is bad in my opinion. This morning I > had two open faced grilled swiss and ham on it and went up about 55 > points (not great but better then 100 <G>) > How long after you ate that those numbers were taken? One hour or two hours? H. Pham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 One hour. But I have heard that spikes over 40 pts are bad for us. That it is not just the two hr reading that is important. It makes sense to me as non diabetic people do not spike like that. So I always test to see how high I actually go. With a new food I will test at 1 hr, 1.5 hrs, and 2 hrs. ---------- From: hpham_53@... To: diabetes Subject: Re: RE:toast question Date: Sun, Jun 24, 2001, 4:50 PM > I can't eat toast (11 carbs whole oat bread) even with eggs and > bacon I spike 100 points which is bad in my opinion. This morning I > had two open faced grilled swiss and ham on it and went up about 55 > points (not great but better then 100 <G>) > How long after you ate that those numbers were taken? One hour or two hours? H. Pham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 > One hour. But I have heard that spikes over 40 pts are bad for us. That it > is not just the two hr reading that is important. It makes sense to me as > non diabetic people do not spike like that. So I always test to see how high > I actually go. With a new food I will test at 1 hr, 1.5 hrs, and 2 hrs. > Boy I can go from 288 to 28 in an hour so I must really be wacked out! I eat Aunt Millie's All Natural Potato or Sourdough white bread. It has total carbs of 11 in one slice and 1g sugar. I try to eat one slice at a time but sometimes cheat and have two. My Dr. told me to test twice a day only!!!!!!! Otherwise he said you drive yourself crazy with testing for every little thing. I might test a 3rd time if I feel like I might be getting too low (below 50). But I'm trying to stick to the twice a day thing. About 7:30 in the a.m. and 8:30 in the p.m. Before I eat anything and usually before I do my treadmill workout in the morning . In the evening I sometimes have a snack afterwards and sometime not. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 > One hour. But I have heard that spikes over 40 pts are bad for us. > That it is not just the two hr reading that is important. It makes > sense to me as non diabetic people do not spike like that. > Thanks for your reply. If I wanted to keep from spiking over 40 pts, I probably would have to eat just a nibble every hour, every waking hours. Since I'm not a " non-diabetic " person any more, it'd be impossible to make my body behave like a " non-diabetic " one. So, I'll try to manage my diabetes as much as I can, while leading a normal life. H. Pham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 > In a message dated 06/24/2001 6:13:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > vmmasell@c... writes: > > > > My Dr. told me to test twice a day only!!!!!!! > > What area are you in? and who is the dr? Tell us so we won't accidently go to > him, LOL My dr. is a specialist in infectious diseases. He told me I and take control of my disease and not let it control me. I need to watch what I eat, when I eat and how much. If my levels are in a range less than 200 every day, twice a day I am doing OK. The lower the better -- but not so low I get sick. I can hardly stand testing twice a day, my finger tips are raw and numb from it now. I think you are letting it control you if you test too often. Plus, my insurance only pays for a 90 day supply of lancets and test strips, more I would have to pay for out of pocket. My dr. is well known in the area (Cincinnati Ohio -- home of UC medical school) and rated one of the best doctors in the country. I am well pleased with my weight loss and diet plan from the local hospital and my levels are very steady every day. I know where I am at without testing 10 times a day. I did test 5-6 times a day for a short period where I was having trouble with too low of levels. Just my 2c worth from this end. To each their own. But each person has to take his/her doctors own advice and do what is right for them. If I had to bother testing 10 times a day I would give up right now -- too much bother/worry. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 > In a message dated 06/24/2001 6:13:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > vmmasell@c... writes: > > > > My Dr. told me to test twice a day only!!!!!!! > > What area are you in? and who is the dr? Tell us so we won't accidently go to > him, LOL My dr. is a specialist in infectious diseases. He told me I and take control of my disease and not let it control me. I need to watch what I eat, when I eat and how much. If my levels are in a range less than 200 every day, twice a day I am doing OK. The lower the better -- but not so low I get sick. I can hardly stand testing twice a day, my finger tips are raw and numb from it now. I think you are letting it control you if you test too often. Plus, my insurance only pays for a 90 day supply of lancets and test strips, more I would have to pay for out of pocket. My dr. is well known in the area (Cincinnati Ohio -- home of UC medical school) and rated one of the best doctors in the country. I am well pleased with my weight loss and diet plan from the local hospital and my levels are very steady every day. I know where I am at without testing 10 times a day. I did test 5-6 times a day for a short period where I was having trouble with too low of levels. Just my 2c worth from this end. To each their own. But each person has to take his/her doctors own advice and do what is right for them. If I had to bother testing 10 times a day I would give up right now -- too much bother/worry. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 Remember, too, that diabetes is a " not-one-fits-all " disease. I, myself, only test twice a day, except if I'm wondering how a new food fits into my diet. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 Remember, too, that diabetes is a " not-one-fits-all " disease. I, myself, only test twice a day, except if I'm wondering how a new food fits into my diet. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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