Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I asked my friend the expert (Dr. Jim Neubrander) this question someone posted on the board: Jaquelyn, Folacal: FOLinic acid plus CALcium à hence folacal. Folapro: 5-methyltetrahydrofolic acid. [5MTHF] The confusion comes with understanding how methyl-B12 enters the methionine/homocysteine pathway and when to use what. Classically 5,10 methyleneTHF, in the presence of the enzyme MTHFR, “reduces” 5,10 methyleneTHF allowing its CH2 group to now become a CH3 group – “methyl”. This CH3 group is added to the 5th position on the carbon chain, hence the new name “5” “methyl” tetrahydrofolic acid. This methyl group then is transferred from 5MTHF to “rabbit/ordinary/food” B12 to become methyl-B12. It is here that MB12 enters the methionine cycle when paired with methionine synthase. Once the methyl group is transferred off of the 5MTHF molecule, all you are left with is THF that once again “spins” and repeats the folic acid cycle to generate MB12. Folinic acid, on the other hand, can enter the folic acid cycle many different places. The reason it is so important is because it bypasses the pathway named above and therefore can be used by the body to make purines that are required for the brain and body for many other “non-folic acid pathway” functions. Therefore, when clinicians and parents do not understand how this works, they hear “this is better – no that is better”. They also hear “this is one step closer than that is”, etc. 5-MTHF (Folapro) is definitely “one step closer” to transferring its methyl group to plain B12 to form MB12 and leave THF. Therefore in a child not receiving MB12 directly, the body is dependent on this classic pathway to make enough 5-MTHF as a preparatory step to then pass this methyl group onward to make MB12. However, this is where there can be a “methyl trap” because if you are giving MB12, you have already bypassed the reason to make 5MTHF and the 5-MTHF just sits there because we have enough MB12. Folinic acid, however, is the one that will not be trapped and will also be able to make purines and if one uses “folic acid pathway entities”, folinic acid is the better option in a person on MB12. If a child is not on MB12, then 5-MTHF is a good option because it bypasses and MTHFR enzyme defects. However, it requires a normal biochemical set of reactions to occur which does not happen in our children. In my practice, if I were only to treat the children with an MTHFR defect, then approximately 40-50% of “MB12 responders would never get the benefits they get by adding MB12. I will include a few slides for you to look at that illustrate this pathway. The text is in the notes view should you want to read what the slides say. However, because the slides are “builds”, I would first have you view the slides in the “slide show” mode so that later, when you read the text, it will make more sense. [Remember that the “other way” to make MB12 is from glutathione and SAM combining with OH-B12 or CN-B12 but not relative to this discussion] Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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