Guest guest Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 <<I quit cold turkey from Paxil 20mg. I was on 25 mg of CR for over a year and then Paxil 20mg for a couple months. I'm on day 8 without Paxil and the zaps are just hitting now. I thought the worst was over put apparently not. Any insight on how long the dizziness, whooshes, zaps usually last? >> ** Going cold turkey they can last 2 years. You need to reinstate the drug and make 5 - 10% reductions only after you've stabilized from each reduction. I'm serious about 2 years. Most people who cold turkey find their lives are never the same. Many have to quit work or school for a few years. <<started taking Anxietol 7 and b-complex vitamins which seem to be helping a little bit. Any advice is appreciated.>> ** Please don't take these. Instead, take a look at the Basic Healing Protocol you got when you joined. Basically, there's not much anyone or anything can do to help if you decide to stay with the cold turkey. You don't have to learn the hard way, though. Thousands have done this before you. Some of them are here and can tell you that it is the last thing thy would do if they were able to go back and do it again. Did you not take a look around on the web before making this decision? Regards, (moderator/list owner) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 I agree, no one should go off of paxil quickly. I have been in the hospital twice due to symptons described below. They didn't have a clue what was wrong with me and increased my dose of paxil from 20 to 30. It's a long stupid story. I am now on 20 mil. again. I tried to wean myself off slowly over a few months or more from 30 and went into a deep depression and daily anxiety/ocd, etc...I'm not sure what I'll do at this point. I feel better on the paxil, but hate being on meds. Blessings, Connie -- RE: how long for side effects of withdrawals Hi Sherry! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS COLD TURKEY!! I was on Paxil 20mg for about a year and 2 weeks ago my Dr. told me that I was to go off of Paxil. She wanted me to go from the 20mg to 10mg and take that for 4 days and then STOP!! I was one of those Paxil users that if I missed a dose, I would be sick for at least 2 days... So I knew this wasn't going to be easy. On the 3rd day from going from 20mg to 10mg, I started to get a little woozy. Three days later,I thought I was going to die. I AM SERIOUS! I was in my shower and all of a sudden it started spinning like a roller coaster..I vomitted EVERYWHERE..I could not take care of my children.. they had to go stay with my Mother for 1 week (that almost killed me too!) I was extremely dizzy, nauseous, speech slurring, memory loss, eyes kept twitching back and forth, my head felt like it was 1000 lbs, muscle cramps.. THE WORKS!! Luckily, I didn't have the zaps, but YES I have experienced them.. NOT PLEASENT! I couldn't take it anymore.. I called my Dr. and told her what was going on. I was crying hysterically on the phone and vomitting while I spoke to her. She said this was unbelivable for she NEVER heard of symptoms like this!! WHAT??? My first thing I actually said to her was, "You have got to be F******G kidding me (I don't swear and yes, I actually said the word)" She said she would call me right back. Well, right back was 2 hours later and she asked if I had someone that would be able to go to the pharmacy for me. Luckily, I had my neighbor. My Doctor prescribed me 10mg of Prozac to help with the withdrawal symptoms. From what I read, (may not be 100% accurate, this is how I personally describe it) Paxil is a short life drug which the body does not store and causes severe withdrawals if not weaned properly and can cause SERIOUS COMPLICATIONS if stopped cold turkey. Prozac is a long life drug which builds up and stays in your system longer and has less severe withdrawal symptoms. YOU SHOULD BE WEANED OFF BOTH DRUGS though! I personally believe the sooner you wean yourself (talk to your doctor of course) off the Prozac the better. As with any drug.. there is the possiblitly of side effects. READ UP ON THE DRUGS YOU ARE TAKING!! VERY, VERY IMPORTANT!! Let me tell you something: THAT WAS THE BEST THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED TO ME!!! I have been on the Prozac for 4 days and IT IS A MIRACLE!! I do have a headache and the occasional dizzy spell but I WILL TAKE IT compared to the hell I went through for a whole week! I highly recommend you talk to your Dr. about this or read every bit of information on Paxil Withdrawal that you can possibly find. This group is tremedous. is wonderful and she knows what she is talking about. PLEASE TAKE HER ADVICE!! I also recommend talking to your doctor about taking Prozac. It may not work for everyone, but I just wanted to let you know that it helped me and may help you! Like my Dr...Most of them have NO CLUE about the severerity of withdrawal symptoms from Paxil and that proper weaning techniques that need to be handled properly and SLOWLY!! IT IS VERY DANGEROUS TO STOP TAKING PAXIL WITHOUT WEANING OFF! It could seriously ruin your life. Here is a link to dealing with Withdrawals with Prozac: http://www.benzo.org.uk/healy.htm I hope this helps a bit. Going Cold Turkey is ONLY going to get WORSE! I promise that! If you have any questions, please feel free to email me anytime! Find e-mail and documents on your PC instantly with the new MSN Search Toolbar–FREE! To subscribe to the off-topic list go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/socialWandR/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 I did more research and carefully considered all the great advice here...I started back on the Paxil yesterday and I do feel better. I quit Paxil 20mg for 10 days already so I started back on 10 mg only. I will monitor that for a while to make sure it is enough and then start tapering down. I am also going to call my doctor to see what she says. I do not have much faith in them because they suggested I go on the medication in the first place. Fortunately my pharmacy carries the liquid Paxil which is easier to taper the last 10 mg. Thank you all for taking the time to share your thoughts and experiences with me. I am also taking 's advice about the supplements in the Basic Protocol file. I looked all over the web for help. This group is the only place where I feel I am getting the best advice and healthy suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Friends - I need a little information. A college advisee of mine is trying to wean off of Paxil after 7 years at a daily dose of 10 mg. Had been experiencing some mood swings, severe twitching especially at night, emotional numbness, lack of concentration ability, etc. On first attempt to wean off the Paxil, a cut was made to 5 mg. for about 2 weeks and then to zero. After about a week the withdrawl symptoms became such that a return to 5 mg. was made. Has now been at 5 mg. per day for nearly 2 months. In the past few days a feeling of constant tiredness and " a feeling like I had before I started the Paxil " has been reported. I am encouraging a continuance at the 5mg. level until these feelings/sensations pass. However, there has been talk of " caving in " and going back to the 10 mg. level. - Any words of advise or encouragement out there in Withdrawl and Recovery Land? Note: The twiching has reduced from 30-40 per minute at night to 5-10 per minute. If it is possible to make it through a few more days and things stabilize, should a cut be made to 2.5mg. for a few weeks/months? What are your suggestions? This poison really enslaves a person. - Thanks in advance for any advise and/or encoragement I can pass along. --- mickey2831mouse wrote: > I quit cold turkey from Paxil 20mg. I was on 25 mg > of CR for over a > year and then Paxil 20mg for a couple months. I'm > on day 8 without > Paxil and the zaps are just hitting now. I thought > the worst was over > put apparently not. Any insight on how long the > dizziness, whooshes, > zaps usually last? I started taking Anxietol 7 and > b-complex vitamins > which seem to be helping a little bit. Any advice is > appreciated. > > Thanks, Sherry > > > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Ooops! I left out some things. There were some brain zaps back when my friend went from 5mg. to zero. - Also, a couple of other questions: Could the problems being experienced now be the result of " burned out " receptors in the brain? Could it also be the result of the Paxil losing effectiveness? --- mickey2831mouse wrote: > I quit cold turkey from Paxil 20mg. I was on 25 mg > of CR for over a > year and then Paxil 20mg for a couple months. I'm > on day 8 without > Paxil and the zaps are just hitting now. I thought > the worst was over > put apparently not. Any insight on how long the > dizziness, whooshes, > zaps usually last? I started taking Anxietol 7 and > b-complex vitamins > which seem to be helping a little bit. Any advice is > appreciated. > > Thanks, Sherry > > > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Hi Andes, The 5mg drop was a 50% cut and will take a lot longer to recover from,how long noone knows as everyone is different.I had all those same things happen .The recomended way of getting off is no more than 5% to 10% at a time and stay at that dose till you feel like your over the worst of it.Doing it that way is not such a shock to the brain and gives time for the brain to sort itself out. Ros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Hi Mickey, I am glad you decided to go back on and come down slowly you won't regret it .You probably saved yourself years of pain and suffering.Take it from someone who knows. Hugs Ros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Ritalin twice a day and Xanax to help me sleep,which don't seem to be causing any additionalproblems, Not yet anyway. This is a legal speedball. Xanax is treacherously addictive and Ritalin, well, that has it's own set of problems. Are you SURE you need these drugs??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 , I'm probably still healing as well after cold turkeying off 450 mg effexor XL in January. I'm on Ritalin twice a day and Xanax to help me sleep, which don't seem to be causing any additional problems, but what else can I look forward to in terms of Effexor WD? I promise I will look at the files on the site too - I'm in the process of studying in a quick bartending course then I have job hunting to look forward to, but I'll do it. Will the Ritalin and Xanax interfere in any way? I'm still trying to take my calcium, Vitamin C and magnesium as well as wean myself into a macrobiotic diet (love my meat, fish, coffee and the occasional spirit!). Starbuck --- grabar5 wrote: > catherine im still healing after two years. > but, to the person that wrote this. do what > catherine says. > > jason > > - In Withdrawal_and_Recovery , " C > Creel " <ccreel@m...> wrote: > > <<I quit cold turkey from Paxil 20mg. I was on 25 > mg of CR for over a > > year and then Paxil 20mg for a couple months. I'm > on day 8 without > > Paxil and the zaps are just hitting now. I thought > the worst was over > > put apparently not. Any insight on how long the > dizziness, whooshes, > > zaps usually last? >> > > > > > > > > ** Going cold turkey they can last 2 years. > You need to reinstate the > > drug and make 5 - 10% reductions only after you've > stabilized from each > > reduction. I'm serious about 2 years. Most > people who cold turkey find > > their lives are never the same. Many have to quit > work or school for a few > > years. > > > > > > > > <<started taking Anxietol 7 and b-complex vitamins > > which seem to be helping a little bit. Any advice > is appreciated.>> > > > > > > ** Please don't take these. Instead, take a > look at the Basic Healing > > Protocol you got when you joined. > > > > > > Basically, there's not much anyone or anything > can do to help if you > > decide to stay with the cold turkey. You don't > have to learn the hard way, > > though. Thousands have done this before you. > Some of them are here and can > > tell you that it is the last thing thy would do if > they were able to go > > back and do it again. > > > > > > Did you not take a look around on the web before > making this decision? > > > > Regards, > > > > (moderator/list owner) > > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 exactly - In Withdrawal_and_Recovery , glitterari@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 6/17/05 12:47:08 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > grabar5@y... writes: > > but, its all about perception. and those with the power and money can > control perception. i learned that studying abroad and through drug withdrawl. > people will be manipulated and have a hard time swaying from normal > perception in their environement, even if its bad for them. > > > > Controlling perception is actually BRAIN WASHING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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