Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 In a message dated 4/9/04 4:04:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, allison@... writes: > Hello group ! > > I have managed to buy some GuarSilk ( INCI: Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium > Chlorid) > My GuarSilk is a browish coloured fine powder that doesn't have a very > pleasant smell, not bad or rancid, just not nice smelling. > From what I have read various places it should be very easily dispersed in > room temperature water. > I am having a great deal of problems doing this. I have used very small > amounts 0,5-1% pr liter etc. > The GuarSilk will not diperse in the water, I have tried mixing it with hot > and cold water as well. > And used the stick blender and whizzed like mad for a long time, but still > there were a lot of specks of the Guarsilk in the water. > I boiled the water first that I used. I use our spring water that comes > straight from the mountain here, which is also our drinking water. > Maybe I would have to buy distilled water for this ? > > Any thoughts on this matter will be greatly appreciated ? > Hi , Are you sure the material that you are using is GuarSilk? GuarSilk is The Herbarie's tradename and no one else has permission to sell it except for the-soap-dish.com. Our GuarSilk is a yellowish fine powder that has a characteristic " fishy " smell. It's not the nicest smell, but not the worst either If yours is brownish...I'm not sure what you have gotten?? The Herbarie GuarSilk is readily dispersed into room temperature water--hot water should not be used. We recommend using 0.1-0.5%. Once it is dispersed into water, It should be allowed to sit for 5-10 minutes to completely hydrate. Once it has hydrated, it can be heated with the other water phase ingredients. Angie The Herbarie Natural Source Ingredients for Toiletries & Cosmetics http://www.theherbarie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Hei Angie, +++ Thank-you for your answer. Are you sure the material that you are using is GuarSilk? GuarSilk is The Herbarie's tradename and no one else has permission to sell it except for the-soap-dish.com. +++ Sorry, I wasn't aware that GuarSilk is the trade name used for the theherbaries and soap dish, I just assumed this was what it was called in the US. I know now :-) Our GuarSilk is a yellowish fine powder that has a characteristic " fishy " smell. It's not the nicest smell, but not the worst either If yours is brownish...I'm not sure what you have gotten?? +++ The INCI name (Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chlorid) is the same as the INCI GuarSilk has on your site. In Norway they call it Guar flour, saying it is made out of guar beans. Do you always disperse your GuarSilk in destilled water ? Have you tried with regular spring water ? When I sprinkle the powder into the water it just turns lumpy ( kind of like gelatine lumps). And will only semi disperse after I use the stick blender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 When I sprinkle the powder into the water it just turns lumpy ( kind of like gelatine lumps). And will only semi disperse after I use the stick blender. - I measure the guar silk in a small dish and dump some of the measured distilled water over it without stirring, let it hydrate 10-15 min, then dump it into the rest of the distilled water to heat with the water phase. I don't stir it at all except as I stir the whole water phase while it heats. It'll blend. The one thing I learned early, tho', was to mix plenty of water to rehydrate-otherwise there's thia yellowish lump that is more difficult to blend. HTH Coral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 >When I sprinkle the powder into the water it just turns lumpy ( kind of like gelatine lumps). And will only semi disperse after >I use the stick blender. >I measure the guar silk in a small dish and dump some of the >measured distilled water over it without stirring, let it hydrate 10- 15 min, >then dump it into the rest of the distilled water to heat with the water >phase. I don't stir it at all except as I stir the whole water phase while >it heats. It'll blend. The one thing I learned early, tho', was to mix >plenty of water to rehydrate-otherwise there's thia yellowish lump that is >more difficult to blend. Formulating is like cooking. Everyone has a different way of making gravy. When I am trying to hydrate a traditional gum, I sift the gum into rapidly mixed water. Once the gum is dispersed, I usually heat to 75C to 80C. The net result is a beautifully hydrated gum. Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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